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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:35 PM
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"Clinton Campaign in Utter Disarray" dkos
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/11/74639/3959/203/454406

February 5, 2008 exposed everything to me. This was the day of the Clinton TKO to Obama, but she failed. How? She concentrated on the machine driven politics in targeted states, while Obama, again came close enough in these states but picked up the crumbs. Crumbs? Yes, every other states she did not have any presence, organization. Why did she do this? She thought she would have blowouts in the targeted states but failed and let Obama get enough delegates to stay in this game.

So now this? No money?

But even more problematic was the campaign's money crunch. Over the last seven years, Clinton had raised $175 million for her reelection and her presidential campaign. But Solis Doyle didn't tell Clinton that there was next to no cash on hand until after the New Hampshire primary.

"We were lying about money," a source said. "The cash on hand was nothing."

In turn, Clinton didn't tell Solis Doyle that she was lending her own money to keep the campaign afloat. Solis Doyle found out third-hand. And when she asked Clinton about it, the senator told her she couldn't understand how the campaign had gotten to such a point.


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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:38 PM
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1. what a mess...
It gets worse every time I read about it. I have trouble understanding why someone barely able to keep a campaign together should be elected president.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:38 PM
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2. Kos is pure Obama love-fest and Hillary hate...nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:38 PM
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3. Uh oh. Is this how Clinton will run the White House? Secrets and lies?
No thank you. The past 8 years has been enough for me.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:39 PM
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4. Somebody testing the post limit?
I trust you're having technical difficulties?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:41 PM
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5. dupe
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 03:42 PM by sparosnare
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:42 PM
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6. Does Peter Daou have people working for him? If so, how many and how much are they being paid?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=2861561&page=1


"The awareness in the political world of the online community has evolved," said Peter Daou, Internet director for the Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. campaign.

"The Internet adds a whole new layer to the political campaign," said Daou,...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:01 PM
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19. Staff of around ten, budget of around $200,000 as of last time I looked at it >
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:01 PM by Stephanie
Which was months ago. I'm sure it's grown since then.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1633118





http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/06/sen_clintons_courts_blogospher.html

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has pulled off a major coup in her evolving relationship with the liberal blogosphere.

She has hired Peter Daou, author of the Daou Report (a blog on Salon.com) and the director of blog operations for the 2004 presidential campaign of Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.
Daou will join Clinton's senate race fundraising committee, "Friends of Hillary."

In a post announcing his new job, Dauo said that "as a true believer in the importance of , I'm thrilled about Senator Clinton's interest in building this bridge with the online community and I intend to do everything I can to make it as productive as possible." As a "blog advisor" to Clinton, Daou will seek "to facilitate and expand her relationships with the netroots," he said.

***

Clinton's decision to bring on Daou -- coupled with the hiring of Jesse Berney, another liberal blogger -- shows a recognition on her behalf that blogs will play a crucial role in choosing the 2008 Democratic nominee and that she has work to do in the courtship of this increasingly important interest group.







http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/24/politics/main2395622.shtml

Clinton entered the presidential race by posting a Web video. And to run its Web operation, her campaign scooped up at least four political bloggers, including Peter Daou, who worked on Sen. John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign and blogs for Salon and the Huffington Post.

"Internet and technology has become an integral part of politics, and it is a great way for Sen. Clinton to have a conversation with people," Daou, the campaign's Internet director, told CBSNews.com producer Christine Lagorio. "It is a wonderful democratic medium that allows people to connect with each other and with the campaign."

***

Bloggers are playing an increasingly significant role in presidential campaigns. Clinton has plucked Daou, along with Crystal Patterson (from DailyKos), Jesse Berney (who ran DNC blog operations in 2004) and Judd Legum (of Think Progress).






http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/03/AR2007050302546_pf.html

At Clinton headquarters in Arlington, integration means that Daou, who leads the Internet department's staff of 10, is considered a senior staffer but answers to the communications director. Daou reports to Howard Wolfson, who reports to Patti Solis Doyle, Clinton's campaign manager.








http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/07/on_the_download_32.html

July 30, 2007

On The Download: Million Dollar Web Campaigns
It's time to welcome Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney to the million-dollar club, as both presidential candidates have now spent at least $1 million on their Internet operations so far this year.

***

Hillary Clinton
Firms ($1,207,730 total): NGP Software, Inc ($700,725), Mayfield Strategies ($507,005).
Staff ($178,400 total): Jesse Berney, Peter Daou, Nancy Eiring, Sarah Foy*, Recardo Gibson*, Jess O'Connell*, Crystal Patterson, Kevin Thurman.
Minimum total: $1,386,130.









http://www.ontimefundraiser.com/index.php?mod=news&cmd=article&id=2

In 2004, the Dean camp and its followers used MeetUp to connect supporters; now, there’s MySpace, Facebook, Second Life and Eventful. Campaigns increasingly mine these social networks in an effort to connect with new voters.

And while some candidates would earlier want to get in touch with DailyKos, with its vast readership, they now also know that if they roll out a health care plan, for example, that the campaigns need to make sure those proposals find their way onto health blogs, Mr. Trippi said. Peter Daou, the Internet campaign director for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, pointed to the message boards on AARP’s Web site, for example, as proof of another audience, or the readership of UrbanBaby.








http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0507/3933.html

“To most bloggers, authenticity is an important criterion. There is an allergic reaction to hypercautious politicians,” The Huffington Post’s Arianna Huffington wrote in an e-mail. “Hillary Clinton’s problem with the blogosphere is that she has been so calculating that you can smell it. Every thought has been processed through multiple channels in her and her consultants’ brains. It’s so fabricated.”

Exacerbating this criticism is Clinton’s standing as an inside-the-Beltway politician. Her employment of high-profile consultants such as pollster Mark Penn has drawn the condemnation of the blog community that sees this as the root cause of her cautious politicking. Most bloggers shun the label “anti-establishment.” But many blame the D.C.-insider, consultant-based method of campaigning that Clinton is utilizing for the Democrats’ (recently ended) political dry spell.

What effect opinions like these will have on the primary or general elections is unclear. In an April 2007 Daily Kos poll, Clinton received only 3 percent of the site users’ support. And yet, a Cook/RT Strategies national poll around the same time had her winning 36 percent of the potential Democratic vote.

Even veterans of online politics caution against overvaluing the blogosphere’s significance. “Candidates have been obsessing about bloggers and ignoring their base,” said Zack Exley, director of online organizing and communications for the 2004 John Kerry campaign. “The candidates need to make a direct connection with their base and turn that base on and get the $100 million.”

Clinton has made her share of plays for blogosphere support. She hired as her blog adviser Peter Daou, who in 2004 was the Kerry presidential campaign’s director of online response and blog outreach. She also brought onboard Jesse Berney, a prominent liberal blogger who worked for four years at the Democratic National Committee writing and editing Web and e-mail content.






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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:04 PM
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22. Kinda makes you wonder how she would deliver on a promise
of open government.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:05 PM
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23. duplicate post
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:06 PM by Skidmore
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:46 PM
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7. how do you piss away $175mil and not know it?
what a disfunctional bunch...
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:54 PM
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16. Youre right and the sad part is how hands off is she
with her own campaign? She has been running this from basically January 20, 2007 (wikipedia) until now. How in the hell did she not realize the shortfall until Feb 2008!

That is bad managing and planning. If she had done it right she would have made her adjustments much earlier.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM
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29. I'll bet they regret making Winona Ryder campaign treasurer.
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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8. "Clinton Campaign in Utter Disarray" (dailykos)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/11/74639/3959/203/454406

February 5, 2008 exposed everything to me. This was the day of the Clinton TKO to Obama, but she failed. How? She concentrated on the machine driven politics in targeted states, while Obama, again came close enough in these states but picked up the crumbs. Crumbs? Yes, every other states she did not have any presence, organization. Why did she do this? She thought she would have blowouts in the targeted states but failed and let Obama get enough delegates to stay in this game.

So now this? No money?

But even more problematic was the campaign's money crunch. Over the last seven years, Clinton had raised $175 million for her reelection and her presidential campaign. But Solis Doyle didn't tell Clinton that there was next to no cash on hand until after the New Hampshire primary.

"We were lying about money," a source said. "The cash on hand was nothing."

In turn, Clinton didn't tell Solis Doyle that she was lending her own money to keep the campaign afloat. Solis Doyle found out third-hand. And when she asked Clinton about it, the senator told her she couldn't understand how the campaign had gotten to such a point.


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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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9. "Clinton Campaign in Utter Disarray"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/11/74639/3959/203/454406

February 5, 2008 exposed everything to me. This was the day of the Clinton TKO to Obama, but she failed. How? She concentrated on the machine driven politics in targeted states, while Obama, again came close enough in these states but picked up the crumbs. Crumbs? Yes, every other states she did not have any presence, organization. Why did she do this? She thought she would have blowouts in the targeted states but failed and let Obama get enough delegates to stay in this game.

So now this? No money?

But even more problematic was the campaign's money crunch. Over the last seven years, Clinton had raised $175 million for her reelection and her presidential campaign. But Solis Doyle didn't tell Clinton that there was next to no cash on hand until after the New Hampshire primary.

"We were lying about money," a source said. "The cash on hand was nothing."

In turn, Clinton didn't tell Solis Doyle that she was lending her own money to keep the campaign afloat. Solis Doyle found out third-hand. And when she asked Clinton about it, the senator told her she couldn't understand how the campaign had gotten to such a point.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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10. Are they trying to pull a "New Hampshire" here--pretend it's all in disarray, pretend
Hillary is desperate--"her back's against the wall!"--in the hopes that they'll be able to spin the Potomac results as a victory, no matter what happens?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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12. Maybe they are pretneding to pretend to be pretending...
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 03:47 PM by Skip Intro
:shrug:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:59 PM
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17. Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You've made your decision then?
Vizzini: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.
Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Vizzini: Wait til I get going! Now, where was I?
Man in Black: Australia.
Vizzini: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You're just stalling now.
Vizzini: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Vizzini: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:31 PM
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24. ACK! Where was the poison?!
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:46 PM
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27. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM by shain from kane
Man in Black: Then make your choice.
Vizzini: I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
Vizzini gestures up and away from the table. Roberts looks. Vizzini swaps the goblets.
Man in Black: What? Where? I don't see anything.
Vizzini: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter.First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours.
They drink.
Man in Black: You guessed wrong.
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Vizzini stops suddenly, and falls dead to the right.
Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in Black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM
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28. Inconceivable!!
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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11. great just what we need yet another lying politician...
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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13. If she's this bad at running a campaign
How's she going to run a country? :shrug:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:00 PM
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18. Again with the caucus states where % of voters was NOT REPRESENTATIVE.
Love the way the guy makes the case that MONEY can buy the office of leader of the free world.

Obama takes mucho from big corps. Just ask for the link if you want it. I got it from an article at BlackAgendaReport.com--the facts are there.

Got to love the way Kos characterizes Hillary's meeting with Edwards as "sneaking around." Let's watch to see how the writer characterizes Obama's meeting with same.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:51 PM
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14. I don't believe this - this may be a ploy
to get Obama's guard down.

it's not over til it's over.
Keep fighting like you are 20 points behind.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:03 PM
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21. Yup, slam them for mis-using resources, and slam them again for lying.
Par for the course with Obama and his flock.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:51 PM
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15. kos?
What a joke. :rofl:

Do a quick check of his NH predictions and say hi to Senator Lamont.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:03 PM
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20. good grief--i think this is the 5th post on this issue!!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:35 PM
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25. It's hard to handle even MINOR disappointment when you've enjoyed power and privilege for so long.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:47 PM by ShortnFiery
The Clintons have earned this "disarray" but what will they do with this learning experience is the BIG question?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:36 PM
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26. I hate to see this
She may not be my candidate of choice but I hope she takes a deep breath and puts up her dukes so to speak.
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