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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:57 PM
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Top Obama adviser is lobbyist for Pfizer, Carlyle Group, Monsanto and NRA and....
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:31 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Moses Mercado joined the Barack Obama presidential campaign team and already he's making waves.

The waves are being generated by Mercado's other line of work -- as a lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations who is registered to represent several dozen big-name clients, including the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/09/28/mercado_mosk.html



Hmmm.. Obama has lobbyists for big Pharma, energy and the NRA working on his campaign.

Obama Brings on Top Lobbyist


Obama and Hillary Clinton discussed the influence of health care lobbyists at an August forum. (AP).

Former Dick Gephardt presidential campaign adviser Moses Mercado hasn't even joined the Barack Obama presidential campaign team and already he's making waves.

Mercado, a veteran field man who organized Gephardt's primary operations in Arizona and New Mexico, and later John Kerry's general election operations there, confirmed he is finalizing plans to serve as a senior adviser to the Obama campaign.

The waves are being generated by Mercado's other line of work -- as a lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations who is registered to represent several dozen big-name clients, including the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy.

His resume seems to contradict one of Obama's central themes on the campaign trail -- that as an outsider he can fend of the powerful business interests that he has argued have contributed to the income gap between rich and poor and has frustrated attempts to address issues such as high prescription drug costs and global warming.

In a speech he gave in New Hampshire back in June, Obama singled out the role of lobbyists in the process. As the Chicago Tribune reported at the time, Obama "sought to make the case that the culture of influence in Washington affects the pocketbooks of Americans in myriad ways, from drug prices to student-loan interest rates -- both of which, he argued, are inflated through industry manipulation of public policy."

The story went on to quote Obama, saying: "What's most outrageous is not the morally offensive conduct on behalf of these lobbyists and legislators, but the morally offensive laws and decisions that get made as a result."

The Obama campaign said they have not settled on exactly what role Mercado will play, but he will not take on any job until he has ceased his lobbying work. Obama aides said yesterday no one can work on the campaign and still be registered on behalf of clients as a lobbyist, and Mercado will not be exempted from that requirement.

Mercado, who is close with Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, said his recent work as a lobbyist will not impede his ability to participate in a presidential campaign. He confirmed he would be taking a leave from Ogilvy, though the timing and temrs have not yet been ironed out.

"First and foremost, I'm an American and I participate in the process," he said. "That's the most important thing. I've always been involved in the process. That's why I'm going to be leaving , so that there isn't any question."

He said he was surprised anyone would take issue with his involvement. "I'm kind of honored that people are worried that I'm going to go work for Obama. It's good for the ego, I guess."





Why would they need to give money when they WORK FOR HIS CAMPAIGN?


"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists" - Barack Obama
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:04 PM
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1. LOL-the sound of silence from the Obama crowd
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:07 PM
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5. Maybe this is what Obama meant by change
Anyone else think so?
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:11 PM
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10. perhaps they dont understand the word hypocrite or lying sack of shit
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:59 PM
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43. LOL they really don't.......Read Krugman is all I'm havesay to about this
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:56 PM
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76. nope--the little Obamacrickets are having a hay day!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:25 PM
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87. Hillary's Penn is a Blackwater man
while Hillary is a Monsanto woman.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:02 PM
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88. this isn't about Hillary, dear
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:05 PM
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2. LOL-the sound of silence from the Obama crowd
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:06 PM
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3. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:17 AM
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78. Why are you guys so obnoxious?
Not saying this thread did not raise good points, which one of the Obama supporters below posted a good response to. But why do you guys act so immature? It happens on both sides, to be sure, but what's the point of this kind of infantile post?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:14 AM
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80. You must have a low tolerance for Toddlers.
I love kids myself.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:06 PM
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4. I heard Clinton has a former Walmart lawyer on her campaign.
Is this true?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:09 PM
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7. This thread isn't about Hillary
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:10 PM
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8. Look over there!! Look over there!!
Pathetic and predictable.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:17 PM
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17. Yes, look at that.
I don't know why on earth anybody would want to live in a house made of glass, but it takes all kinds.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:19 PM
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21. Either answer the OP or
start your own thread. Your diversion tactics are childish (and unsurprising).
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:25 PM
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30. I'm sorry, I thought that was a rhetorical question.
Is the OP suggesting that Monsanto et. al. are, somehow, buying influence within the Obama campaign because lobbyists are working for it?

If that's the real question, what does the OP have to say about Countrywide Financial, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Occidental Petroleum, Bristol-Meyers, Entergy , Lockheed Martin, Texaco, AT&T, Allergen , Greece, Taiwan, Cyprus, Virginia Tech, Doha Qatar, Comcast, Sony Ericsson, Ikea, the National Fisheries Institute, Visa International and *ahem* Blackwater?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:32 PM
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50. Hello? Is this thing on? Testing... testing...
*crickets*
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:27 PM
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69. here's what I say This thread is not abour Clinton and more important this.......
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Hillary is open about her lobbyist connections. She doesn't campaign against lobbyists, or claim to be the champion of reducing lobbyist influence in Washington.

Obama does. Which is why his campaign being full of corporate lobbyist advisors for companies like Pfizer, Carlyle Group, Verizon, and others is an issue.

"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists" Barack Obama


and if you had taken the time to read through the thread you would have already known this....now go to the back of the class.




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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:52 PM
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72. Hello? Is this thing on? Testing... testing...
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM
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13. NO that was Obama's wife as a lawyer /board member for a major Walmart food supplier.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:13 PM
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91. Michele was on the board of the hospital charged for dumping the poor sick on the streets
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 04:15 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:47 PM
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98. kick
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:08 PM
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6. chirp
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:11 PM
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9. You mean that he hired a person who worked for Dean at the DNC and Gephardt.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:15 PM by Mass
My guess is that he cares about the people then.

http://www.ogilvygr.com/who/mercado.cfm

I guess this exclude Hillary Clinton as she was on the board of one of these big bad companies.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:29 PM
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32. Don't bother--they've been posting this same sham story for months and months
They know that Moses Mercado is a long-time Democratic congressional aide. That he took a leave from his position--as liaison to Congress for the firm. That he's worked for Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, and John Kerry.

But, you know, they can always try again.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:08 PM
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53. Since Dean, Gephardt and Kerry never got to the oval office, we
have not yet seen Mercado flex his muscles.

We do need a change from this crap but Obama is showing us daily that we are not going to get it. Only the lazy will buy into his empty slogans. Unfortunately, that is a big number.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM
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11. Pfizer ... now that aught to move the health care reform along./nt
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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24. Once again Hillary is behind Obama who already removed "universal" to please the corps
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM
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12. Sssshhhhhh, you aren't allowed to say anything bad about Barack around here.
SSDD. Maybe yet another reason why he won't debate Hillary - to scared to now have to discuss hiring lobbyists.

She will know about this and will dish it back.

I am starting to understand why Barack won't debate.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:14 PM
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14. BadaBing
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:15 PM
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15. This is what I mean about what a lying crook Obama is...
Jesus, how can our party base be so taken in by this guy? I pray he does not get the nod, but if he does his supporters are in for a huge eye opener during the election. And god forbid he wins the GE, you are going to see the dem equivelent of GW Bush running the country.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:28 PM
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31. They are both corporate candidates
I am not thrilled with either.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:35 PM
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38. That's right. They are both center-right candidates who owe a lot to the corps.
Neither of them is particularly progressive. They're ok. I'll vote for whomever gets the nomination.

But this idea that somehow Obama is "pure as the driven snow" while Hillary is a "hate-filled corporatist hack" is just absurd. Their voting histories are virtually identical. Their platforms are virtually identical.

Obama supporters are getting a lot of mileage out of the fact that Obama didn't vote for IWR because he wasn't in the senate at the time. It's easy for him to say now that he wouldn't have voted for it, but the fact is that most Democrats did vote for it at the time, and nothing in Obama's senate record suggests that he would not have done so like the rest.

They're not bad candidates. They're not very different either.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:44 PM
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39. Here is the difference though...
Hillary is open about her lobbyist connections. She doesn't campaign against lobbyists, or claim to be the champion of reducing lobbyist influence in Washington.

Obama does. Which is why his campaign being full of corporate lobbyist advisors for companies like Pfizer, Carlyle Group, Verizon, and others is an issue.

"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:28 PM
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70. That's one reason I like Hillary more and I support Hillary.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:13 PM
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57. I wish I could recommend your reply
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #38
65. I know--I binary always has Obama on top--and if even try to level it out-

put your helmet on!!


But this idea that somehow Obama is "pure as the driven snow" while Hillary is a "hate-filled corporatist hack" is just absurd. Their voting histories are virtually identical. Their platforms are virtually identical.
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Oskie Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:58 AM
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96. I totally agree! Not happy with HRC or BHO! and the dewy-eyed
Obama supporters are playing right into the hands of the GOP. At least HRC supporters aren't so innocent. When the GOP/MSM get rid of her, they can sink him. Gotta make it look good and real...don't want the rest of the world to really know how it works here in the bastion of Democracy. Ha!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:16 PM
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16. What good is a lobbyist in a presidential campaign?
Are they just there for media relations and keeping an eye on the candidate to make sure he doesn't promise voters something they don't approve of?

Or is it to craft clever answers and policy points that make it appear the candidate is talking like a progressive, but really espousing a corporate friendly agenda.

It must be a new type of campaign job, either way.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:17 PM
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18. It's OK because he's "taking a leave" while he works for Obama.
Then he'll go back to them when they need a little muscle in The White House. This guy will have the ear of Obama at his beck and call. We may end up looking back on W's administration fondly.

At least we'll be getting a change.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:18 PM
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19. Moses Mercado, NM State Director for Kerry-Edwards 2004?
Is that who we're talking about?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:24 PM
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25. this Moses Mercado....
Lobbyist for the National Rifle Association, the Carlyle Group, the Blackstone Group, Monsanto, Pfizer Inc., United Health Group, Sempra Energy and Constellation Energy.

And Obama's platform against lobbyists is not just taking donations, but lobbyist INFLUENCE on policy in general.


"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists" - Barack Obama

And

Obama's Hypocrisy?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:30 PM
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34. self delete - dupe nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:35 PM by bunnies
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:33 PM
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37. "he will not take on any job until he has ceased his lobbying work"
Did you skim over that part? Or are you blatantly ignoring it.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. you forgot your "sarcastic" thingy right?....read post 18
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:28 PM
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47. And it also says "the timing and the terms have not yet been ironed out"
You want me to be all up in arms over something that may or may not happen? Id rather wait till I have some real facts thanks.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:10 PM
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54. Translation--the "DEAL" has not yet been ironed out.
This should be interesting.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:29 PM
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94. Why would they need to give money when they WORK FOR HIS CAMPAIGN?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:18 PM
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20. But, but....the Care Bears?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #20
75. great--thanks i had no seen that.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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22. Does that mean he is in bed with the Bush and Osoma bin Laden
You do know they are part of the Carlyle company, guess we shouldn't look for the capture of Osama bin Laden if he is elected
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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23. Now we have a little snapshot of why
a Junior Senator/First Term ever in Congress can overwhelming out fundraise Senators such as Joe Biden and Chris Dodd twenty-fold...

Additionally, someone tell me just how much did Oprah actally do for the Obama Campaign BEFORE IT BECAME A CAMPAIGN? You know, while such organization can occurr before Campaign Financial Records are required? How much has Harpo Productions really provided to make OBAMA Oprah's Machine Toy Puppet ?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:25 PM
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29. BadaBoom
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:19 AM
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79. It is perfectly logical.
He has to have deep connections to get that kind of dough.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:24 PM
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26. Now we have a little snapshot of why
a Junior Senator/First Term ever in Congress can overwhelming out fundraise Senators such as Joe Biden and Chris Dodd twenty-fold...

Additionally, someone tell me just how much did Oprah actally do for the Obama Campaign BEFORE IT BECAME A CAMPAIGN? You know, while such organization can occurr before Campaign Financial Records are required? How much has Harpo Productions really provided to make OBAMA Oprah's Machine Toy Puppet ?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:24 PM
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27. Another example of his good judgment? n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:25 PM
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28. Now we have a little snapshot of why
a Junior Senator/First Term ever in Congress can overwhelming out fundraise Senators such as Joe Biden and Chris Dodd twenty-fold...

Additionally, someone tell me just how much did Oprah actally do for the Obama Campaign BEFORE IT BECAME A CAMPAIGN? You know, while such organization can occurr before Campaign Financial Records are required? How much has Harpo Productions really provided to make OBAMA Oprah's Machine Toy Puppet ?
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:31 PM
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49. So Oprah is secretly running this thing through Harpo?
Do you think, as payback, she'd install her people into all cabinet positions?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:57 PM
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73. It's all about ego and the thrill of it all for her......
Oprah loves a challenge, actually, she needed another challenge apparently and has created her "hollow-man monster", Obama.........She can set him up, keep him up in the promotional department but, she can not make him a true President. *bush, he is not a true President either. Oprah won't be able to protect him from the republicans......she is not bigger than the New World Order.

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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:29 PM
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33. I'll give this a kick because surely the Obama supporters want to address this.
Or maybe not.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:26 PM
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45. they can't....they are covering their eyes and praying that it goes away
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:27 PM
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46. LOL....truly. n/t
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:30 PM
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35. LINK is broken....(n/t)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:33 PM
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36. hmm thanks......try it again....it 's working
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:46 PM
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40. And even more bullshit. "Top Obama Advisor"? The man hasnt even joined the campaign!
For fucks sake I wish people would learn to read!


"Former Dick Gephardt presidential campaign adviser Moses Mercado hasn't even joined the Barack Obama presidential campaign team and already he's making waves."

-and-

"The Obama campaign said they have not settled on exactly what role Mercado will play, but he will not take on any job until he has ceased his lobbying work. Obama aides said yesterday no one can work on the campaign and still be registered on behalf of clients as a lobbyist, and Mercado will not be exempted from that requirement. "
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:58 PM
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42. OK - Go to this link and look at the Tranparency, Lobbyists, and Ethics of HC & BO -

Barack Obama vs. Hillary Clinton Records on Transparency, Lobbyists, and Ethics

Please refer to this link: http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/barack-obama-vs-hillary-clinton-records-on-transparency-lobbyists-and-ethics/

This is a table and I don't know how to copy and paste it so please go to the link.

I don't think Obama said he was going to hire someone who is a lobbyist in his campaign, he said he wasn't going to have them in his Administration. There is a difference!


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:18 PM
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44. this thread isn't about Hillary...it's about Obama and.....
This is a clear issue of living up to his rhetoric. He claims to be against corporate lobbyist influence in Washington, yet he has lobbyists for every major corporate industry in America running his campaign.

Here is the difference:

Hillary is open about her lobbyist connections. She doesn't campaign against lobbyists, or claim to be the champion of reducing lobbyist influence in Washington.

Obama does. Which is why his campaign being full of corporate lobbyist advisors for companies like Pfizer, Carlyle Group, Verizon, and others is an issue.

"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists" Barack Obama
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:27 PM
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68. Not having them in his administration implies that he will in no way
be obligated to them. This blows the top off that one, not to mention all the money he has already taken from Exelon, Goldman Sachs, and MORE, MORE, MORE.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:29 PM
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48. BREAKING: Satan signs on as Obama's national co-chair
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!

oh brother...
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:36 PM
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51. The last spasmic fits of a dying campaign.
The mud slinging I've seen today is reaching its crescendo.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:12 PM
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56. ahhh soon all you cicada'scausing the din on the DU boards will be gone
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:15 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:16 PM
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62. The cicadas will go forth an multiply.
Sort of like Obama's delegate count.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:14 PM
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59. It's really undemocratic to point out the hypocrisy of a campaign,
or maybe not.

When are you guys going to start calling our argument "racist."
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:18 PM
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66. When it becomes that.
I haven't even seen what you'd call an argument yet.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:47 PM
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71. Have you been playing hooky from your Logic 101 class again?
That will not serve you well.
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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:40 PM
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52. Oh My!, The NRA, Carlyle, Blackstone Group, and Monsanto, ...
Those aren't exactly The Nature Conservancy, The United Farm Workers, or the California Teachers Assoc.

If he brings this kind of debts into his campaign, hard to imagine a time he won't have to provide a little thanks.

Future debates could be frisky if this comes to pass, after Obama calling Hillary to the carpet.

Revolving door influence peddling, with a little sanctimony and hypocrisy thrown in. I wonder if Obama will indeed accept this adviser before the primaries are complete.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 AM
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81. cicada
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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:54 PM
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82. I know this post is past, but such a shallow and unfounded insult needs a reply.
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:02 PM by CRH
Just what that I wrote that you take exception to escapes me, but your arrogance and tone do not. You and Tellurian must have a time, juntos.

If you regress (as your behavior shows you can), half a dozen posts (post 44), I have implied the same as you. But why waste my time with vitriolic spasms from a cheerleader who is obviously not a thinker.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:57 PM
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83. I'm not being rude, you are just insignificant.
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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:11 PM
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84. You are being rude, and few on this board are significant in the bigger game.
I thought this was a forum for discussion and comments. Just where does your elevated significance come from other than you own ego driven perception of self. I've seen your posts, nothing original or earth shaking there. You are just another cheerleader.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:11 PM
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55. I just hate hypocrites
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:14 PM
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58. Too funny! Not like all the corporate heavy DLCers around Hill? He's not Kucinich, but he's alright
by me. ;)

Go Obama! :patriot:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:16 PM
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64. Hello, the guy says he will not play with the lobbyists. He lies,
but you knew that.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:20 PM
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67. difference : Hillary is open about her lobbyist connections.She doesn't campaign against lobbyists
or claim to be the champion of reducing lobbyist influence in Washington.

Obama does. Which is why his campaign being full of corporate lobbyist advisors for companies like Pfizer, Carlyle Group, Verizon, and others is an issue.

"You've got to have a president in the White House who is not simply subject to the whims of corporate lobbyists" Barack Obama
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:15 PM
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60. LOL the stands for nothing candidate strikes again
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:16 PM
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61. Double Post nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:17 PM by jmg257
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:16 PM
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63. Cool - the NRA!?! I KNEW I was right in supporting Obama! GREAT news!
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:19 PM by jmg257
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:16 PM
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92. And just in time for the Wisconsin primary too!
Um, whether the OP likes it or not, associating Obama with the NRA can only help him in WI, TX and OH.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:23 PM
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74. top adviser?
Someone who hasn't even joined the campaign is now a "top adviser"? :wtf:

Moses Mercado hasn't even joined the Barack Obama presidential campaign team
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:16 AM
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77. First of all, Mercado is not a "lobbyist" with OgilvyGR
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:17 AM by zulchzulu
Granted, people who aren't very intelligent tend to gravitate to supporting Hillaryworld (as has been proven in many studies/analysis), but if someone works for a government relations firm, that doesn't mean that they work for all the clients on that agency's entire client list. What I just wrote is already probably WAY over some people's heads. Are the receptionists at OgilvyGR supporters of the NRA?

From the site (http://www.ogilvygr.com/):

Moses C. Mercado

Senior Vice President, Ogilvy Government Relations

Prior to joining Ogilvy Government Relations, Moses Mercado served as the Deputy Executive Director, Director of Intergovernmental Affairs for Governor Howard Dean at the Democratic National Committee. He was responsible for all outreach and communications to the U.S. House and Senate, Governors, Mayor's and local elected officials. He also advised the Governor on Congressional Leadership and elected officials policies and activities. He has been appointed by the National Democratic Chairman Governor Howard Dean as a DNC-At-Large member serving on the Resolutions Committee.

Mr. Mercado served as Deputy Chief of Staff to U.S. House of Representatives Democratic Leader Richard A. Gephardt for six years. As second in command to the House's top-ranking Democrat, Mr. Mercado's diverse responsibilities included assisting in the day-to-day management of Leader's Office operations. He wore both political and policy hats, coordinating decisions, and acting as liaison to the Democrat Caucus (e.g., working to design and implement short- and long-term legislative policy positions), in addition to effectively communicating Democrat leadership views to interested parties off of Capitol Hill. Mr. Mercado was the chief advisor to the Democratic Leader with respect to legislative issues affecting the Latino community.

Before joining the Democratic Leader's office, Mr. Mercado served as Chief of Staff for Congressman Gene Green (D-TX). In that capacity, Mercado was responsible for the management and administration of office operations in the Congressman's Capitol Hill office. He coordinated the Member's legislative agenda, as well as all political and policy decisions.

Before coming to Washington, Mr. Mercado had been an Assistant Attorney General for the State of Texas, assigned to the Eminent Domain Division.

Mr. Mercado received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Government from the University of Texas in 1986, and a Doctorate in Jurisprudence from the South Texas College of Law. He has been admitted to Texas bar.
A native of south Texas, Mercado currently resides on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C.


Here's a simple example. If you turn your TV on to NBC, are you then supporting the Lockheed Martin F-35 JSF? NBC and GE and Lockheed Martin are all under one roof.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:24 PM
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93. LMAO you're going to try and equate "a recptionist" with the Senior Vice President, ?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:38 PM
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85. hmmm...
was he ever hired? I see your article is from September 2007. I believe he was never 'hired', but did volunteer his advice.




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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:24 PM
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86. KICK
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:10 PM
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89. Kucinich.
nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:16 PM
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90. oopsy.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:09 AM
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95. kick
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:02 AM
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97. Yawn. Lies and the lying liars that tell them.
"Former Dick Gephardt presidential campaign adviser Moses Mercado hasn't even joined the Barack Obama presidential campaign team and already he's making waves."

......

"The Obama campaign said they have not settled on exactly what role Mercado will play, but he will not take on any job until he has ceased his lobbying work. Obama aides said yesterday no one can work on the campaign and still be registered on behalf of clients as a lobbyist, and Mercado will not be exempted from that requirement. "
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:53 PM
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99. drink somemore
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:28 PM
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100. The two "choices" are pretty much the same. It's like twins calling one another ugly.
The candidates are average at best, and most of their supporters can't even rise that high.
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