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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:10 PM
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What if Obama blamed his losses on the large female population?
What kind of mighty uproar would be drummed up in DU? I could picture threads now. the s, e, x, i, s, and t keys would be worn to the nub on Hillary supporters computers.

How dare Hillary try to marginalize Obama's victory in Louisiana because he has support in the AA community?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:11 PM
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1. What if DU was full of race-baiting Obama supporters who love division?
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:11 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM
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2. Then that would be a different DU.
:shrug:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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9. LOL!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:14 PM
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3. yes, and up is down, Kurt.
and hot is cold. Virtually all of the race baiting posts come from the Clinton camp, but carry on.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:21 PM
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10. Here you go again constantly dissing any Hillary supporters.
You never stop but pretend you are not flamebaiting.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:26 PM
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13. Don't pick on Cali. If it wasn't for her, how would we have known Joe Biden is a racist?
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:35 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
What could have made her peaceful with a mind
That nobleness made simple as a fire,
With beauty like a tightened bow, a kind
That is not natural in an age like this,
Being high and solitary and most stern?
Why, what could she have done being what she is?
Was there another shark for her to jump?

______________________

My mockery contains a measure of respect... very few DUers rate a snarky poetic allusion.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:14 PM
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4. Imagine Obama tearing up the day after New Hampshire about 59% of voters being women
imagine that for a moment
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:30 PM
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16. Imagine Hillary condescendingly saying, "You're likable enough" n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:32 PM
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19. Imagine any Democrat saying someone will "go after your wages" to pay for health coverage...
Yeah, I can't imagine it either.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:16 PM
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5. Why can't we just say the truth....
when 80 % of African Americans are voting for Obama can't we just say he has the African American vote? And if Hillary has a large number of women let's just say she has a large number of women supporting her.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:23 PM
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11. There is nothing wrong with saying Obama does well with
the AA vote. The problem is Hillary trying to use that as an excuse to minimalize the results.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:44 PM
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22. BINGO!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:17 PM
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6. What if the sun rose in the west tomorrow? What if mrbush pulled out of Iraq?
What if.....

One could play the "what if.....outrage!" game all day.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:18 PM
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7. Why would there be an uproar if it was true - only the Obama crowd claims truth is offensive
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:19 PM
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8. If he used that excuse, he would be castrated.
...in every sense of the word.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:25 PM
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12. That is how Clintons think.
This illustrates how the Clintons look at the electorate. As Obama said in 04 they "slice and dice" us into
constituencies. It is a cold form of objectifying that often works.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:27 PM
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14. If he did that I would be proud of women everywhere.
:-)
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:29 PM
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15. I don't know, let's wait until he *HAS* some losses,
and find out. ;)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:31 PM
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17. Duplicate. DU burped. Vote Democratic! Go Mets! nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:33 PM by MookieWilson
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:31 PM
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18. Hillary is a lot freer to complain and go negative if she wants to...
Obama has to keep smiling. He can't ever complain, and he can't ever get angry. Not as long as his opponent is a white woman.

It just wouldn't be tolerated.


But good luck getting Gloria Steinem to acknowledge this.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:32 PM
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20. He would probably be correct. HRC DOES get a lot of female votes. But...
women do not vote as a bloc.

Never have.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:35 PM
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21. Obama has the support of Alcoholics Anonymous?
Maybe Hillary can go after the AAA vote. :shrug:

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:47 PM
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24. ...
:spray:

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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:45 PM
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23. k&r - there would be a sh!t storm if he did that...
Instead he say we were way behind and made a game of it in X state.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:54 PM
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25. There would be an uproar
It's a disgusting double standard indeed. If Obama blamed women like Hillary does blacks for her losses, we would have 10000 Hillary supporters here using the sexist card.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:04 PM
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26. The Clintons have no shame
Their race baiting is really pathetic. It is not necessary at all. They should be above it.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:20 PM
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27. We know what would happen: the posting frenzy would be so intense
that the folks who run DU would probably have to add another server just to handle the traffic. And nearly every one of the posts would include the words "misogynist," "women-hater," "pig," and worse. The double standard is really quite striking.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:42 PM
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28. If there is a State where females reside in numbers several times higher
...than the national average, and Obama loses in it, it would be absolutely proper and logical for him to call attention to that fact. "Calling attention" and "blaming" are different cncepts. Some candidates do better in some regions than others, or with urban voters, or rural voters, or whatever. If the Obama camp makes note of the fact that Hillary Clinton has done well with Latinos, to her credit, which helped her win California, but that in upcoming contests the demographics are more favorable on the surface to his candidacy - there would be noting odd about that.

Is anyone here honestly unaware that Obama does very well with African American voters, and that in those States in which the voting percentage of Blacks is much higher than average, he tends to do very well? Obama has been winning the Black vote by a bigger percent than he has been losing the White vote in the South. That is simply a fact - both Obama and Clinton have cross racial appeal, but in a head to head that is how it has played out so far.
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