Hillary's Mississippi problem ... link

Yes, Mississippi's large black population means a likely Obama win, but it's worth recalling that Mississipians took offense at a Hillary put-down several months ago. Wouldn't mean much if the state were winner-take all, but in a proportional delegate situation the margin of victory counts.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/10/what-is-hillary.html

What is Hillary implying about Mississippi?
October 23, 2007 1:27 PM

Check out this new column by David Yepsen in the Des Moines Register.

In it, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, suggests that one of the reasons she's not doing as well in Iowa as she is nationally or in other states is because she's a woman and Iowa has "never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress."

She says that's the case with Mississippi, too.

But then she seems to imply she's not surprised that's the case down South, but given the "quality," "openness" and "communitarianism" of Iowa she is surprised that's the case in Iowa.

Hard not to read that as a slam on Mississippi.

I live here. I see the misogyny first hand every day. I don't take it as a smear against Mississippi...she's stating a fact.

And it's one more reason that I support her, as do many of my colleagues.

having a candidate think you're a bunch of backwoods yokels isn't the way to win votes.

Women like me--and there are many like me here, who work for a living, don't attend Southern Baptist churches, educated, raising kids alone--know she speaks the truth and will vote for her.

Lt. Governor twice. It's arguably a more powerful position then Governor in this state. I'm not from here originally, but have been here for a decade now. We have problems from being a poor state, but the 60s are long gone and so are the attitudes for the vast majority of the people here.

:sarcasm:

It may not sound "nice," but Mississippi is not known for tolerance even today. She can spare talking about the elephant in the living rooom because Mississippi will vote Republican anyway.

she'll get more delegates if she loses by 20 points, rather than 30 points. And Mississippi is a pretty strategically placed primary, being the last primary for 6 weeks until Pennsylvania.

We have more black elected office holders in our state than any other state.

However, black and white people go to church every Sunday and listen to their pastors preach biblical justifications for the subjugation of women.

Women are not to speak in church.
The man is the head of the family.
The wife is to support her husband's decisions.

Southern Baptist churches don't allow women in their leadership--deacons are always men.

And Southern Baptist churches dominate the south.

here? I'm from up North originally and thought the exact same thing. After spending a decade down here, I have a much different attitude. There are small pockets of old-time racists, but the vast majority of population has moved on from the 60s. Blacks and whites live and work next to each other down here without any problems. Still more work to do in regards to other races and women, but it's getting better.

When I was in Florida last year evreywhere I went I saw mixed race groups of blacks and whites hanging out together.

You'd rarely, if ever, see that in California. :(

I see it often. Much interracial dating here, too. No one bats and eye at it.

Poor quality, huh? Smooth.

As someone who used to live there, let me say this. The people in MS who have a problem with women in positions of power -- and yes, they do exist, sadly -- are Republicans. Specifically, Huckabee-voting, right-wing fundamentalist nutjob Republicans. Unfortunately there are a lot of them, but they won't be voting in the Democratic primary.

as irrelevant. :eyes:

book it

Near the end of the 1992 election, there was a poll showing Clinton with a lead in Arkansas. Bush said Arkansas was a "backwards, redneck state that didn't matter." Paraphrasing. Bush didn't seem to understand that he was running for the chance to represent the people of Arkansas, and all the other backwards rednecks.