Obama HQ has Che Guevara and Cuban flag on the wall

Bayou City has a new Obama campaign office, and the Houston branch of FOX has a video report here. Not big news.

But if you watch the video, you might notice something a bit... uh... weird:





Yes, it seems that they have a Cuban flag - with a superimposed portrait of Che Guevara - on the wall. Now, I appreciate that some progressives admire Che. But when you've got TV cameras rolling, is it really the best idea to be identifying yourself with a man who most of the country (including a lot of Dems) consider to have been a bloody murderer?

It suggests to me that some of these people are far from ready for the primetime. McCain will eat amateurs like these for breakfast. It also kinda makes me wonder what sort of "new support" is being brought into the party. I think Dems can live quite happily without the Viva Fidel contingent.

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Edited to add: Some people downthread have claimed this is not an Obama office, despite the fact that the video shows Obama volunteers working in there, wearing Obama buttons, and with an Obama poster on the wall (next to the flag - watch the video). Their argument is that because there are no paid staff there, the fact that the Obama campaign now has control of, and use of, the premises does not make it an Obama HQ.

I'll leave you to decide for yourselves the merits of that argument.

I noticed DU has a Che avatar too. Big deal (unless one is part of the John Birch Society, lol).

Only a repug would take Fox/Faux news seriously.

...and who is volunteering there. Still probably not a brilliant idea to have that right there for the cameras when trying to win in Texas.

convention and will be ALL some people consider...that's scary

will make a nice response ad.

Another one that needs to run come election time.

won't have that problem if he goes up against McCain.

he/she is right that the GOP will snatch this up and use it.

"Yes that is a Cuban Flag with Che's face on it, put up by one of my campaign supporters. I don't like the flag but I will defend a persons right to freedom of speech and expression. When you silence a persons right to free speech you are a fascist."

:wow:

And we all know 'bout the Kennedy/Che thing, right?

Historical cognitive dissonance.

:rofl:

Bad move, people. That will probably be a sound byte by tomorrow.

It happens.

:shrug:















:rofl:

Viva la Revolucion!

:eyes:

But it's the sort of story that gets a lot of play on the news and can be quite damaging -- especially in southern Florida.

Stupid move by the people at the headquarters

things like this are bones
that the dog repukes will
chew and chew and not let
go.

Your candidate could be the Democratic nominee. There are groups out there that will latch onto any kind of imagery to malign the Democrats. This picture does NOT help, to put it mildly.

In other words, it's not an Obama office yet.

You should change your thread title to reflect the truth.

:rofl:

Doesn't get much better.

or any other indications either. What can McCain use?

There's a close-up of the Obama poster in it.

It's an Obama office. Staffed by volunteers at the moment.

before the campaign puts its stamp on the place and all of a sudden this is supposed to be a BIG issue.

You should know better than that.

I simply said it's an Obama office. The story says so, right at the beginning.

but until then, volunteers can do what they want. Cherry-picking DUers works here, and cherry-picking volunteers works for Fox. No surprise, really.

Take a breath and logically think about this along with the source.

Do you think they're not really Obama volunteers? Do you think they photoshopped the flag in? Please explain.

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"volunteers opened two new Houston offices for the Barack Obama Presidential campaign."

Where's the lie?

Are you saying it's not really an Obama office? Are these renegades who just opened an office on their own?

what they want. Just move on. It's hopeless.

You should know what the hell you're talking about before you post.

Please let me know.

My understanding is that he is a great Latin American Hero, and yes, he was a revolutionary.

Sounds like that's what George Washington was as well.

I have seen many here at DU with that avatar.

Are we really that concerned about the fucked up GOP assholes to this extent?

Will the Clinton campaign find a Reagan flag for her walls? :eyes:

So much bullshit, so little time!

I hope they manage to spin it better than you're managing, because the "Che is a hero" line will not, I think, win many Americans' hearts.

But then, the politics of hatin' Obama is your specialty!

Not even a fool would think that there is widespread admiration for Che in the USA.

but politics aside He is not an evil person, quite the contrary.

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara

Say at the next debate. "Present!"

by BO's charm and his personality;. No substance just crap.










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Oh, and enjoy your sure to be brief stay at DU.

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Gay bashing. Nice intro to DU. And FWI Che was very anti-gay but good job calling him a fag. Are you twelve?. Though Che's stance on LGBTQ fits Obama wooing the exgay movement.

Are you that type of gringo that feels the need to tell me about how tragedy in my country makes for a really cool t-shirt?

Well Good Day to you!

Che was a psychopathic murderer and a coward who executed helpless, unarmed people but ran from battle. He plotted to blow up Bloomingdale's, Macy's and Gimbel's the day after Thanksgiving, but fortunately, like everything else Che put his mind to, he failed. Even Castro knew he was too dangerous, so he sent him off to the Congo hoping he would die. When Che ran from the Congo rather than face real soldiers, Castro sent him to Bolivia, where he failed again and surrendered while his "troops" were still fighting and he still had a full clip in his pistol.

If you believe the Castro-sanitized version of Che's legend, you are what Lenin called a useful idiot. I suggest you read some real history, rather than propaganda straight from Havana.

If Che were in the Whitehouse right now...this forum would not exist.

If Che were sitting where Bushboy was sitting, we would not dare speak out against him.

Anyone that did would face a firing squat.

the Ignore feature is working full blast.

It will not go over well when the republicans run the add this fall.

It is Obama who loves Reagan "correcting" the liberal Democratic "excesses" of the 60's and 70's.

I know that many Clinton haters here are very, very upset about Bill having unacceptable sexual relations.

--p!

And that Clinton haters usually cite Bill's behavior as a reason for their hate.

You gotta read it before you can slam it.

--p!
Slam it, baby!

Only members of Free Republic use the term "Slick Willie".

Be gone, troll!

on the wall, it is HIS BUTTON on HER COAT, and they are IN HIS/THEIR CAMPAIGN OFFICE.

Maybe my remarks were stupid. MAYBE, just maybe, it is really NOT their flag - but good luck with that since it IS next to OBAMA'S poster, it IS behind OBAMA's supporters, and it IS in OBAMA's campaign office.

it's not an Obama office because there are no paid staff there yet?

It says right in the story that volunteers opened an Obama office. What does it matter whether they're paid or not?

It is in no way official or sanctioned.

Power to the People.

:thumbsup:

Republican voters.

That sounds like nothing more than desperation.

We are a sick country, with a number of sick democrats ....with absolutely no backbone, afraid of their own shadows. :puke:

they're identified as volunteers with the campaign.

Just because they're not paid staff doesn't mean they're not working with the campaign. How dumb.

Oh, the horror!!1!

Surely you realize that this can be used against him?

I'm actually a bit relieved by this.

should he get the nom. In that case,just say hello President McCain. :(

Next, Democrats will be voting for War that cost trillions and kills hundreds of thousand in fears that they will lose elections! oh....wait! that has already happened. :eyes:

To little time, not enough brains....and certainly no backbone while succumbing to the dumbass politics of hate.

Y'all are something else. :scared:

And Obama volunteers inside it?

The fact that PAID STAFF have yet to move in does not mean that it is not an Obama HQ. Watch the video.

NOTED COMMUNIST AND MASS-MURDERER... etc.

Che was a socialist which is not at all the same thing. I'd love to see your sources re his being a "mass-murderer". Got link?

You really don't know that Che executed more than 1,400 Cubans without trial?

For your edification, some quotations straight from the horse's mouth:

“a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.”

“If the nuclear missiles had remained, we would have used them against the very heart of America, including New York City.”

“We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims.”

“We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm.”

“Individualism must disappear.”

“I don’t need proof to execute a man--- I only need proof that it is necessary to execute him!”

“Certainly we execute. And we will continue to execute as long as it is necessary. This is a war to the death against the enemies of the revolution”

“In my fury I yelled at them that they were behaving like women.”

“The peasant base has not been developed. Although it seems that through the use of planned terror we can neutralize some of them. Their support will come later.”

“My friends are friends only so long as they think as I do politically.”

“Don’t shoot! I am Che. I am worth more to you alive than dead!”

But, hey, he looks groovy on a tie-dye t-shirt, dude.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? You say your team is better? Nu-uh, I say mine is!!

The history of suffering, starvation, oppresion, exploitation, war and inhumanity is in plain sight, all situational ethics aside.

Che was not born a revolutionary, but he certainly died one. And that doesn't mean I hold his memory in esteemed status, but rather that I can see what is for what it is, or what was for what, and why, it was.

Prior to 1959, Cuba had a standard of living twice that of Spain, or half of Europe for that matter. And it had net immigration. Now people die trying to leave in rafts. In the last two years, 77,000 have fled the paradise that Che built. Just in December, 40 Cubans, among them 12 children, in single boat were lost at sea. Oh yeah, no here cares about them.

The repugs will explain who he is while running the campaign ad.

Che Guevara is!!!

Ooooh, look behind your sofa! Communists!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's not even Obama's office yet. Take your trolling somewhere else, Shillbot.

And calling other posters infantile names doesn't do much for your credibility.

Consider the source and laugh at it. ;)

If you don't like it, you don't have to whine about it.

Get back to us when paid Obama staffers occupy the office at the end of the week.

And not reading your own posted articles doesn't do much for your credibility.

Not that you had any to begin with.

But it is.

Thank you for playing.

I can organize volunteers from my house, and decorate it however I want.

Any person with a brain would know that Obama has nothing to do with my house decorations.

Your constant harping on this as an "issue" makes you look more brain-dead than Terri Schaivo.

Thank you for playing, but you lost. Game over.

Say good night, Gracie.

I suppose those darned facts were just too much for you to handle.

Good night, Shillbot.

be sure to make that distinction. Is this your first campaign?

As others have said, if paid staff get there and it's still up, that could be a problem. But I can organize volunteers from my house and the Obama camp would have zero control over my decorations, whatever they are.

"Is this your first campaign?"

Actually I was a volunteer (meaning "not paid") for Gore, Bill Curry, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Harry Mitchell, Janet Napolitano and now Barack Obama.

Is this your first time acting like a condescending ass?

shapes the events going on, you're delusional. If this gets on the news (which it already is), people aren't going to distinguish unpaid/paid workers. Just that the dem candidate worships Che - that's how it will be perceived. If you're such an experienced volunteer, I'm surprised you don't understand that. Or is the Obama candidacy going to transcend the media?

Face it - the media will already make up shit far worse than this. Obama can easily blow this off by saying "I don't control everyone who volunteers for me". Done deal.

If this is the worst thing they're going to use, it must mean they haven't got much else.

and yet another has a North Viet Nam flag with a picture of Ho Chi Minh.

God people are dumb

These people need to think and be more careful. I guarantee you that there are Repubs collecting any kind of material like this to use against him if he is the nominee.

...produce Che flags and t-shirts to be sold by American retail firms to bourgeois teenagers.

:patriot:

could they have invented this? Could we put it past them?

But this local. Local FOX is usually better, in my experience.

Totally unimportant.

Add to that the fact that Hillary fired her Latina campaign manager as we approach the Texas primary, I can only find amusement in this little "blunder" by some Obama supporters.

Obama will do very well in Texas and that will be the sting that may just be fatal to the Clinton's ambitions.

I'll letcha know if it's still up. I expect that it won't be.

Thanks for the updates and, most of all, thank you for going down there for Barack. You totally rock!

I want to pick you up and carry you around the block on my shoulders!

With the greatest respect, DZ

That guy had a point.

And I'm sure that flag will come off the wall before any additional media spots. But, I must confess... as one who is firmly against the neoliberal economic policies that have been imposed on latin american nations around the world, that flag and the latina sitting in front of it, brought a smile to my face.

Having just come from San Antonio, I'm sure this will be death for Obama amongst Texas Latinos in the Democratic Party. This ain't Miami.

and those are people acting on their own

It was a local Fox News staged event.

The real HQ is at 2520 Southmore, in the heart of "Hillary country" which, by the way, is canvassing 9 to 1 for Barack.

Have you ever fact checked a damn thing you have posted?

Don't worry, I accept your apology.

Read the note at the end of my OP.

We are unpaid volunteers.

And there is no Cuban flag on the wall.

All volunteer. Fear us.

Again you are wrong and just plain misinformed.

Did you call the HQ? Obviously not. I work at the HQ. I know the folks there.

We are doing a lot to overcome the HRC institutional advantage in Houston.

Obama will take Sheila Jackson Lee's district (she's a committed HRC super -- for now).

...you won't overcome her advantage by inviting reporters to come in and look at your Communist Wall of Fame.

Tell me what we (I) said when you called HQ?

Oh, that's right, you didn't bother. Pathetic.

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But you're trying awfully hard, and that's cute.

Seriously... people keep pointing that out as if it's meaningful.

Is it not an Obama office? Do you think these volunteers just opened it on their own?

Right out of the fox page in very small letters:

"The office featured in this video is FUNDED by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign."


http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Obama's personal office has a prominent picture of fellow Illinois resident Abe Lincoln on the wall.

It doesn't bother me at all (although it's ironic to support a non-liberal like Obama and view Che Guevara as a hero, in my book). But things like this can ruin a campaign.

Glad you're staying tuned.

Disgusting

This place has nothing to do with our office. Thes efolks were UH or Rice Young Republicans.

Let's say it together: Staged Event.

Someone up above belived me when I told her that he's got Ho Chi Minh & Marx pictures up!

which identified John McCain as a Democrat? That FOX news? Puh-leese.

If this is true, I'll bet it's already been taken down; although I don't believe a damn thing FOX is selling, so I find it hard to start now with this as sketchy as it is.

When all is said and done we'll be left with an image they'll have to circulate in another viral anonymous e-mail.

...Why did the reporter only identify one interviewee?

None of the campaign workers were quoted or named.

The African-American man described as a "key Obama supporter" was quoted but not named.

At best, that makes the report slipshod and I can't believe this got on the air, especially from a reporter who appears old enough to know better. But, then again considering what passes for journalism on local television nowadays, and especially the lack of ethics and professionalism I've encountered from TV reporters at that level, it's hardly surprising.

I also find it noteworthy the only Obama accoutrements seen were the sign taped on the office door, the single button on the woman who greeted the entrants and one small poster on the wall in a position of obvious deference to another artifact of political statement. Where were the literature, the bumper stickers, the yard signs, the buttons to be handed out, all the other extraneous paraphernalia that festoons and litters a campaign office?

I find it very difficult to believe anyone interested enough in politics to join a campaign would be naive enough to not understand what effect that flag would have. I just don't believe someone in that position could be that ignorant.

...I personally know of instances where local television news reporters have staged things and manipulated scenes in the process of filming a story. I put nothing past any of these clowns.

I'm in print journalism and you would be amused at the rift between print and television journalists. The light in which print folks view TV reporters is well earned, believe me. Not all, but a good number of them are marked mostly by vapidity and vanity.

with a helmet like Dukakis

I did not see any Cuban flags or pics of Che, though neither would offend me. That office looks quite a bit more "new." The Houston Obama office is in a building that is a bit dated, located in a rather old, established community. That pic looks like a strip-mall office.

No Cuban flags anywhere to be seen.

In two weeks I leave for Texas --- I will be putting in time at this very office. I'll be sure to check for signs of un-American activity.

We're getting a lot done, but there are mountains to climb

And you've got the best grassroots team in the country coming to your town. I just made my plane reservations --- see you soon!

:hi:

We have a primary to win!

gimme a PM! I actaully work and live in Galveston County, so I may or may not be at the Houston office much, but I will make a point to come by to meet a fellow evilDUer. :evilgrin:

And see you in Houston!

"Every time you turn around somebody's sayin' somebody else's a red. What is these reds anyway?" - Tom Joad

he was a communist who would have had away with freedom if he had his way. and he did, and its called Cuba, with fidel castro just giving everyone liberty.

He explains it thus: Che was about the ideals, Castro was about one implementation of the ideals. Che never gets old and corrupt, Castro, well, people's opinions on the matter differ.

the paragraph explaining how Batista let political prisoner Castro free to go into the Sierra Madres, in order to for Batista to get more and more $$ for "security".

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/castro/peopleevents/p_batista.html

Rush and Ann Coulter get their "Hillary" campaign signs up, to, ya know, compare offices.

That isn't an Obama office!

It IS an Obama office, but they aren't real Obama workers.

Okay, they are real Obama workers, but they're not getting paid, so it doesn't count.

Well, maybe it does count, but it's Fox News. They might have put the flag in by computer graphics!

That isn't a picture of Che Guevara, it's his cousin, Larry!

Hillary did it, too!

Obama has no control over it!

It's unfair! You're picking on Obama because he's (fill in your favorite adjective or phrase).

Hillary has a staffer named Amaya Guevara!

This is an insignificant story. Not important at all!

Chelsea lost her virginity when she was (pick a number from 10 to 16). How about that? Why isn't the press covering THAT?

The name of the dog Hillary had when she was a kid was Joe Stalin!

Che was actually a good guy. All those people were really killed by the DLC!

It's the politics of hate! We need hope!

The DLC did it!

YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!

--p!

What little cred you had with me just disappeared.

And I already had no cred with you -- I'm a Hillary supporter.

You know -- an enemy of Hope, Optimism, and the Future -- ?

--p!

:spray:

Just a heads up - we don't link to that site here.

We link to FR all the time. Mostly to laugh at them.

But to prove a point? I don't want to see a newbie go down the wrong road.

:boring:

The art of Swiftboating consists in smearing the opponent, repeating a lie a million times, until it's too late for all the damage to be undone.

My guess is there were complaints about the poster on the wall, so they had to put the disclaimer after it was originally aired.

:)

:toast:

:sarcasm: (actually not really)

I'm a Naturalized American Citizen, anyway I was born in Argentine. Argentine is the born place of Che Guevara, the picture in that flag... COMMUNISM icon not just there but world wide, a criminal, but specially a mercenary. It caused what Cuba is today: A poor island with starving people willinged to die just for the right to be free.

When I made the naturalization test, pledge, etc. one of the most important questions it was if I was affiliated to any kind of communist party or have/had communist ideals...

Of course, any citizenship is denied if that question is answered positively.

I'm wondering what in the universe the Obama followers are thinking and what and Obama itself is planning for our country...

His office Represents HIM. HE has to agree or not with the items, flags, etc. so... Whatever the staff is being Paid or Not.

God Bless and PROTECT America...

...because if this guy would be our president, we all will live in repression, poverty, terror, and forget about the ideals of our Constitution about freedom.

"His office represents him"?

It might be difficult to get that through some thick skulls, BUT THAT ISN'T HIS OFFICE

No wonder this country is going downhill so fast, 8 years of bush, and the demise of critical thinking

Inane comments like yours are only a reflection of that

attempt by the HRCers to scare Hispanics from voting for Obama? Ridiculous and desperate.

No one pointed a gun to these staffers heads to force them to put up that poster.

Personally, seeing a picture like this doesn't attract votes. But hey, whatever. Keep the damn thing up there for all I care.

What a bunch of idiots. And in Texas, no less.

It is an outrageous piece of crap that they would go to a place we KNOW IS NOT the official Obama headquarters, find some people with Obama tabs, and imply that is his official site

You can scan every right wing blog and see this distortion, or LIE because that is what it is

In small letters fox add the following comment:

"The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign."

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

memories of joe mccarthy

Why wouldn't they go to an official campaign office of Obama? This is an intentional campaign to distort facts and associate Obama with radical elements

This is such bullshit

Of course if this was the Chinese flag the Fox viewers would be OK as that is the official flag of WalMart.

The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Is a candidate accountable for an unofficial site, that hangs a picture of Che?

There was no office until the Obama headquarters opened up a few days ago. I know the folks who will be running the "real" office, and they don't know anything about this "office".

It always so good to see stuff from FAUX News posted here, by my fellow Democrats!

Right here on DU!?!?!?!:puke::puke::puke:

This guy posts from Fox all the time.

and the implication that Obama supports Che Guevara(sic) or Castro is not only false, but ultimate swift boating based on misrepresentation

The Clinton camp had better be NOT behind this

:thumbsdown:

Well, I couldn't leave
Unless the old man chased me out,
'Cause I'd already promised
That I'd milk his cows.
"I had to say something
To strike him very weird,
So I yelled out,
"I like Fidel Castro and his beard."
Rita looked offended
But she got out of the way,
As he came charging down the stairs
Sayin', "What's that I heard you say?"

I said, "I like Fidel Castro,
I think you heard me right,"
And ducked as he swung
At me with all his might.
Rita mumbled something
'Bout her mother on the hill,
As his fist hit the icebox,
He said he's going to kill me
If I don't get out the door
In two seconds flat,
"You unpatriotic,
Rotten doctor Commie rat."

Bob Dylan from Motorpsycho Nightmare

What is Obama's stance on the Cuba embargo?

and that Obama's supporters/workers are not this stupid.

are on their own

Funny how fox went there instead of the ACTUAL Obama's campaign offices in Houston

a new low for you and DU =[

The op convientently left out the small letters under the video which says this is NOT Obama's Houston headquaters, these are volunteers ACTING ON THEIR OWN

This is a classic case of A CLINTON SUPPORTER SWIFTBOATING. It is also on every right wing sight on the web

If paid staffers are going to be there soon, and the volunteers are working directly for his campaign, then a representative should probably make sure the office, even if under control of volunteers, is running under certain guidelines.

It's all about perception. They messed up huge here in my opinion. I have a feeling though if Obama found out, he'd force them to take it down. Not sure what these moron volunteers were thinking.

It isn't about facts. It's about perception. In the game of politics, it is perception that matters.

Anyone walking into that office or coming across the photo, is going to relate it to Obama. They need to have stronger guidelines given to any volunteers acting on their behalf or in relation to their campaign. Since they are aware of this now, I'd expect that his office has already called that office to demand it immediately be taken down?

Tell me what the Clinton campaign can do about it, or any campaign, except say they are not affiliated with us

They have NO right to take down any private office not funded by the campaign. We still have first ammendment rights in this country

...that this does not reflect upon the sentiments of Obama, it does reflect rather poorly upon this particular group of his supporters. how clueless do you have to be no to realise what kind of backlash something like that might have?

It also tells us who these people are: clueless children trying to be "cool".

and implied out right in the title that this was done with the Obama campaign support

How pathetic

Your tactic has just backfired bud because in small letters, WHICH YOU CONVIENTLY OMITTED even fox clarifies this

"The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign."

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

It has no OFFICIAL SANTIONING BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN, and it represents people acting on their own

Where before I would have voted for WHOEVER the Democratic nominee is, I am now considering sitting it out if Hillary is the nominee

You think you are helping your candidate by spreading distortions, keep it up, and if she wins the nomination because of these distortion, you may just lose the general election

Smart move for small mind