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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM Original message |
Senate OKs immunity for telecoms (Hillary missed the vote) |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. To soften the blow - her vote would not have changed the outcome |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. The outcome would have been one more vote against it. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. True n/t |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. It would have helped HER in making a case for voting for her. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. You are correct. n/t |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. The outcome is that she just made a clear statement as to where her |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. yeet more proof that this is now "one nation under surveillance" |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Webb?! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Dems, Dodd, Webb have sold out the constitution |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. No, Dodd voted to remove immunity. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Dodd's hold/filibuster promise was a LIE. He did NOT "vote correctly" |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
79. More than 60 votes NAY... no filibuster! - n/t |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Dodd Filibustered last night on the floor. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Dodd, Feingold agreed to Reid-backed Gang of 14 rules to limit Dodd's filibuster to one day |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
65. You can't filibuster without 41 votes - the rules changed since the time of |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. 41 votes in your OWN PARTY. A PARTY NEVER sells out its own on a filibuster. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
76. Dodd argues for two and half hours on the Senate floor last night - |
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ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think were going to see sometime in the near future alot of followers of Thomas Jefferson come out |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hillary missed the vote? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. She should have been there regardless of margin. Kudos to Obama for actually showing up. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Whats her excuse? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. She's campaigning in far off Virginia |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. No kidding. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Maybe she got caught in traffic or high winds or ran out of gas |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. She is too lazy to be bothered |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
78. I just heard on Rachel Maddow that she's was in Texas - not DC as had been |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. She was planning what to do on "Day One". |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. Oh boy...not good |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. There goes Hillary's "present" argument. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. ARGHHHHH! |
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CitizenRob (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Seriously. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Fuck you Webb, you backstabbing traitor |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why would Webb have voted Yes? Anybody?... duh n/t |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:59 PM Original message |
Why in the hell did Reid keep bringing up a vote he was against? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. Not good that she missed the vote |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. what is with the red state democrats? |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Not just red staters... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. That's why we need Obama |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wow, Even McCain showed up. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is disgusting. Dodd, Webb, Feinstein, Rockefeller....WTF???? |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Feinstein's no surprise. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. DINO...thy name is Feinstein. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Dodd made the right vote. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Rockefeller was the architect of this bill. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
70. Dodd voted correctly. n/t |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
73. oops. Sorry. Don't know why I put Dodd in there. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. Wow |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. "addresses" understatement. "legalizes, endorses and indemnifies Bush's actions" is more accurate. |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. So obama votes "present" and hillary wasn't even "present", lol |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. A stand on tough votes have a crystalizing effect. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. Except this was not a tough vote. It should be an easy vote |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. To all fellow DU'ers ENCRYPT YOUR EMAIL!! I am not pushing |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
84. Thanks - no doubt excellent advice! nt |
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Vadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. Tell us how to do it and we will! .... n/t |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is not just telecom immunity, this is legalizing Bush (and Clinton) UNIVERSAL surveillance plan |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. But stripping out the immunity would effectively gut the program. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. The power they've been given cannot be "policed for violations." That not the way the program works |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Therefore exposure to liability shuts down the whole Terrorist Survellance Program |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Thank you Obama and Durbin for your votes. Screw you Salazar, Webb, Stabenow, Nelsons, Rockefeller, |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I can't believe those cowards! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Yeah - I'm VERY disappointed in Webb. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. I admit to being shocked, and not in a "Casablanca" way, by the big-name "NO" Democrats. |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. I think the more important thing is |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. Dear Senator Mikulski, |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Do the moron dems who allowed this realize that you have just |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. They already do. This is a "JOBS" issue for Mikulski, NSA employs 1,000s of people to filter your |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
40. Ken Nighthorse Salazar's in his usual form. |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Ain't That The Truth |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sickening nt |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. Hillary's headed to TX, where even Carville said on CNN last night she "has to win TX, OH, and PA." |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. To the Usual DLC coward suspects: GET THE FUCK OUT!! |
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southernleftylady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
52. What good have they done lately? nt |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
56. Still smarting over Kyl-Lieberman, huh? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. further proof that we have 1.5 business owned parties |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
60. We have no party. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
63. Know how much the Blue Dog Dems want the Terrorist Surveillance Program? They will stop Obama |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
66. Ahhh, Dianne F, my little flower, |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. What about McCaskill? Darling of the Obama supporters? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. All they had to do was let Dodd filibuster. Reid refused to recognize Dodd's one-man "hold" |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
71. Someone remind me why Bayh has a "D" by his name? |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. Maybe Hillary & Lindsay |
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knowledgeispwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. Kicked and Recommended for more to see! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. "Error: you havealready kicked and recommended this thread." We need a DU Activist Stickie Thread! |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
77. not ONE fucking republican voted yea....yet look at all the dems on the nay side |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
80. Feinstein is a DINO and should be voted out of office asap! |
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yeswecan08 (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
82. This is more proof that Obama is the superior candidate! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. Last night on the Senate floor, DODD said |
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