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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:42 PM
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Bob Dole on MSNBC just used the word "cult" in reference to Obama
Brian Williams interviewed him, asked his opinion about "the other side's" campaigns. He referred to Obama's campaign as being "like a cult", said it was like Mondale's "Where's the beef?" question re: no substance. Brian Williams responded that he sounded like GWB over this past weekend in what he said about Obama.

Sure signs of Republican surrogates: "cult", "no substance"


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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1. It's a standard rightwing soundbite.
There was probably a memo late last week.

Like when the Daily Show shows a collection of clips showing all the RWers saying the exact same thing.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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2. BULLSHIT! One who calls Obama's campaign a cult following...
does not mean that they are "Republican Surrogates" as you say.
I for one, find nothing wonderful about the Obama Campaign!
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:02 PM
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22. Fact of the matter is: the words that we use matter
The words "cult" and "no substance" when applied to Obama have become right-wing talking points and most like will continue to be so if Obama wins the nomination.

Like it or not, when we usse those words in regards to Obama, we associate ourselves with our right-wing opponents and in a sense, become their surrogates.

Some say it was Hillary's advisor Mark Penn who first gave voice to the "cult" phraseology. If that's so, he gave ammunnition to the Democratic Party's opponents.

Each of us is entitled to our favorable and unfavorable opinions and concerns about each of the candidates, but I think it behooves us to not use our opponents ammunition against ourselves.

Thanks for your reply.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:24 PM
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32. No, just ya'll and the repukes have
the same talking points. It's just a coincidence.

"The Cult Meme was also used against Howard Dean. It’s the attempt by the Force of Inertia to stop progress. It’s Cynicism trying to validate itself by keeping things static." CS
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:47 PM
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3. You'll have to forgive Dole
He got his nuts crushed last week by the conservatives over his letter to Rush defending McCain.

He's trying to regain his manhood by taking cheap shots against the likely Democratic nominee.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:18 PM
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16. What does he care...
Doesn't Bob Dole have a lifetime supply of Viagra? Take two and call me in the morning, Bob!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM
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4. Congratulations go to Paul Krugman for joining
Republicans in this smear.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:25 PM
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33. Well, you know why they're doing it?
"The Cult Meme was also used against Howard Dean. It’s the attempt by the Force of Inertia to stop progress. It’s Cynicism trying to validate itself by keeping things static." CS
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM
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5. Who cares what that senile old bastard says?
Are the media whores going to start dragging him out of the coffin all the time, just so he can make McCain look young?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:45 PM
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18. Brian Williams jokingly asked him
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM by housewolf
If he would accept the vice presidential nomination in order to do just as you say - make McCain look young!

edited to say:
Oops, that was from the Sephen Colbert clip they showed, not from Brian Williams.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM
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6. I'll take Irrelevant Republican Tools for $1000, Alex...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:50 PM
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7. I saw the image of Bob.
It looked so life-like.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM
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8. i say: mr. dole -- you're due for a botox shot.
you're looking angry again.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM
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9. Amazing how those Republic talking points make their way into this forum, isn't it?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:56 PM
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37. Dragged in by several posters who are no longer with us, I'll add.
It wasn't genuine Democrats who dragged that term in here.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM
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10. They love their brain washing techniques as soon as you hear this word turn off I say.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 PM
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11. It is a republican meme.
Originated by Mark Penn.

If folks want to know about cults, they should watch the 700 Club or some of those crazy TBN telethons.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM
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12. the Cult meme will backfire disasterously, and become a laugh line about old fogies
Bob Dole is 117 years old. He originated the saying "Remember the Maine."

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM
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13. Did he start out his answer with "Bob Dole thinks......"? nt
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:56 PM
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14. They let Bob out of his coffin?
Full Moon!?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:13 PM
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15. Showed Colbert's clip asking Dole if he would be McCain's running mate
to make McCain look younger
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sofeisty Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:30 PM
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17. Obama better get used to it. The RWNJs will not take it easy on him...
no matter how much he tries to make nice with them before the election. He's trying to present his appeal as a broadbased appeal but Republicans will try to tear him to shreds when the time is right.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:47 PM
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19. It's a right wing meme--it seems like the GOP (Grumpy Old Party) is afraid of Obama.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:54 PM
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20. I guess Im a member of a cult now. Where are the candles and robes? n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:59 PM
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21. Get tickets to see Oprah
they'll be under your chair.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:04 PM
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23. A bit of foreshadowing of MSGOP post-nomination - should Obama get it
If he (and you) thought "fighting the Clinton machine" with MSM at your back was tough - you're in for a few surprises.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:04 PM
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24. Well, I am livid and outraged.
This cult meme makes me quiver and shake with RAGE. How dare they???????

How dare this asshole Bob Dole call 9 million Americans members of a cult? How dare this asshole that supported a war that killed 4,000 and counting U.S. Soldiers call 9 million Americans members of a cult. HOW DARE HE CALL THE VOTERS OF 19 STATES MEMBERS OF A CULT. HOW DARE HE CALL THE VOTERS OF VIRGINA, MARYLAND AND D.C. MEMBERS OF A CULT.

How dare they!!! This is a blatant ploy just like the Rove tactic of telling people in the south that Kerry will take away their bibles was. Now they are appealing to southern voters by calling Obama a scary cultist.

Bob Dole just said that a democratic presidential candidate was a cultist (cultists are people like David Koresh and Jim Jones).

Bob Dole just said that Barack Obama is like David Koresh in a defacto way.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. I'm quivering. I'm livid.

How about Bush and his evangelicals coming out from their little corners to vote for him just so gays wouldn't get married which would apparently ruin their lives? How about Huckabee? Is he a cult?

And thanks Hillary Clinton. Your campaign's chief strategist Mark Penn came up with this line. Thanks a lot.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM
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26. But of course - Clenis did it!
All those Obama supporters writing about it (Joel Stein at LA Times and a few bloggers) were really sleeping agents of Hillary...:tinfoilhat:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:06 PM
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25. Mondale lost n/t
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM
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27. Oh For Pete's Sake
The right wing hate speech has started.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:10 PM
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Bob "cheap shot" Dole? Why are they interviewing that old fart? Who cares what he thinks?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:10 PM
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28. Obama must remind Repukes of Reagan in some way.
Dole offers us yet more projection from the nutsy-wacko-me-gone-so-crazy party.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:12 PM
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29. did saying it help him with
his erectile dysfunction?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:43 PM
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30. Bob Dole the spokesperson for electoral dysfunction....
Hey Bob how did your campaign work out for you?
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:45 PM
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35. Hardly The Person to Ask "Where's The Beef?"
I hope he straightens everything out someday.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:22 PM
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31. Rec'd! Does ol' bob dole want
the clintons back in the white house? His ol' viagra buddy?
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yeswecan08 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:43 PM
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34. Bob Dole is just following Hillary's example
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:55 PM
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36. It originated with the Republicans and they will perpetuate it.
I have never referred to Obama's followers as a cult. For one thing, I have a very different sense of the word since I'm a Pagan. No, I don't belong to a cult, but I'm sensitive to those who do.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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38. fuck that one armed bandit....
I'm sorry, but he deserves that...

And he can take that ditzy wife of his back to viagraville...
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