Is Obama's wave about to crest?

From WSJ Opinion.

February 14, 2008
Obama at the Top
By Daniel Henninger

Hillary Clinton probably didn't watch the stem-winder speech that Barack Obama delivered Tuesday night after cleaning her clock in the Potomac primaries. If not, she should.

It was tiresome.

The speech was classic Obama. Beautifully written and beautifully delivered, the words soaring to the rafters of a Madison, Wis., auditorium filled mostly with 17,000 cheering students. The rookie senator had just come off blowouts of Hillary in Virginia and Maryland.

The senator's charisma and appeal has been undeniable. He is almost insanely eloquent. Still, about halfway into this (very long) speech, the feeling was hard to shake: This is getting hard to listen to. Again and again.

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/obama_at_the_top.html

'nuff said.

...DU Opinion page. Any comments on the substance of the article? Maybe someone should email the link to the Obama campaign. Might help him out.

a "downer" of a message. "Listen closely to that Tuesday night Wisconsin speech. Unhinge yourself from the mesmerizing voice. What one hears is a message that is largely negative, illustrated with anecdotes of unremitting bleakness. Heavy with class warfare, it is a speech that could have been delivered by a Democrat in 1968, or even 1928." In other words, the message of a populist-progressive. The "article" assumes that people like Obama because they're caught up in the catch-phrases and not really listening to what he's saying. If they were, the article assumes, they wouldn't be so enthusiastic. Which insults the intelligence not just of Obama supporters, but of all progressives and everyone who feels that maybe it's time to try to make the government not suck. It's typical WSJ claptrap: what they really mean with the reference to 1928 is that Obama talks like a commie. Pretty persuasive and insightful stuff, huh? But thanks for posting this idiocy here. It's always good to know what the fascists are thinking.

n/t

It didn't take long after the buyout for the WSJ to become as bad as Faux Noise...

....about as useful as an umbrella in a hurricane.

WSJ/ RealPolitics? please.

Several have. Hit piece after hit piece. Just put them on ignore.

hit pieces on Obama. I keep putting them on ignore but they're proliferating !! :hi:

recent spurt of yellow. tabloid OP's I've seen over the past hour or so.

Plus, I'm still waiting for an Obamarite to answer this inquiry with actual facts verses rhetoric...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4587330

Obviously you are stuck on believing and promoting your own agenda for Hillary. What about NAFTA, what about her Kyl-Liberman vote - what about her secrecy with the tax records and Bill not opening up his Presidential Library to show his and her records - what about the money she got from Murdock and the 1996 Communications Bill that kept us from being able to get the real truth! I know I can't change your mind, but you sure as Hell can't change mine either!

GObama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

The article seemed to have two main arguments: Obama is talking like a Democrat (fancy that!) and he isn't telling people that everything is just fine and dandy the way Reagan (PBUH) did.

Did you post here just to - ask me that? :)

There is some truth in what is said in this article. One item I thought was interesting, was that Obama was honing this particular speech to appeal to the grass roots supporters for donations to the campaign. Thought that was clever of him. Other than that, Obama does need to add more substance on the issues in his addresses.

So, if you actually want people to read the rest of your post, don't write n/t.

..thought this meant 'not a new topic'.

you might want to cruise the DU Glossary which lists most of the common acronyms on DU.

For example, in addition to "n/t" meaning "no text {beyond the title}", other folks use "eom" meaning the title line is the "end of message."

Good luck deciphering, and welcome to DU. :hi:

Those James Carville-types of democratic themes.

All the Political Sermons have been heard...and now they are boring..... :boring:

:thumbsdown:

He hosted a town hall where he took questions from actual voters - not the planted shills that Hillary uses.

About as ridiculous as this mind-numbingly stupid shit.

...I am sooooooo impressed ~~ NOT!! :rofl:

And the quickness of the ascent indicates, to me, the speed of Obama's inevitable decline. This is a very good sign.

That being said if I am going to have the hear the same speech 25 times, I would much rather listen to Obama then anyone else.

clap, clap, point, point! :rofl:

I'll add that to the list of things I've just learned about the world. Thanks, WSJ!

:rofl:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Henninger

Actually, and this information will enable you to give proper weight and perspective to my post ;-), I am interested in this theme due to my studies and research into political astrology. Mercury has been in apparent retrograde motion since January 23rd - and will go direct in motion the day before the Wisconsin Primary - Feb 18th. I was interested in what might be out there in the actual world to signal what the impact of this might be on the election, as far as a turning point.

So there you have it. I'm a nutcase.

http://modernvedicastrology.com/node/163

Good luck with your research. You're not a nutcase. You just found an interesting subject to pursue.

Welcome to DU :hi:

And welcome to DU! :hi:

You should have posted this section of the article:

Listen closely to that Tuesday night Wisconsin speech. Unhinge yourself from the mesmerizing voice. What one hears is a message that is largely negative, illustrated with anecdotes of unremitting bleakness. Heavy with class warfare, it is a speech that could have been delivered by a Democrat in 1968, or even 1928.

Here is the edited version, stripped of the flying surfboard:

"Our road will not be easy . . . the cynics. . . where lobbyists write check after check and Exxon turns record profits . . . That's what happens when lobbyists set the agenda. . . It's a game where trade deals like Nafta ship jobs overseas and force parents to compete with their teenagers to work for minimum wage at Wal-Mart . . . It's a game . . . CEO bonuses . . . while another mother goes without health care for her sick child . . . We can't keep driving a wider and wider gap between the few who are rich and the rest who struggle to keep pace . . . even if they're not rich . . ."

Here's his America: "lies awake at night wondering how he's going to pay the bills . . . she works the night shift after a full day of college and still can't afford health care for a sister who's ill . . . the senior I met who lost his pension when the company he gave his life to went bankrupt . . . the teacher who works at Dunkin' Donuts after school just to make ends meet . . . I was not born into money or status . . . I've fought to bring jobs to the jobless in the shadow of a shuttered steel plant . . . to make sure people weren't denied their rights because of what they looked like or where they came from . . . Now we carry our message to farms and factories."

It ends: "We can cast off our doubts and fears and cynicism because our dream will not be deferred; our future will not be denied; and our time for change has come."

I am not saying all of this is false. But it is a depressing message to ride all the way to the White House....

I'd really like to know the reason. You hide your profile, you have zero cred, and I put you on my ignore list until you are TS'd.

C'ya!

It's a message PEOPLE need and want to hear.

why, it must be true!

That's it I finished supporting Obama!

http://www.care2.com/politics/18274

Today, the change we seek swept through the Chesapeake and over the Potomac.

We won the state of Maryland. We won the Commonwealth of Virginia. And though we won in Washington D.C., this movement won’t stop until there’s change in Washington. And tonight, we’re on our way.

But we know how much farther we have to go.

...

We have now won east and west, north and south, and across the heartland of this country we love. We have given young people a reason to believe, and brought folks back to the polls who want to believe again. And we are bringing together Democrats and Independents and Republicans; blacks and whites; Latinos and Asians; small states and big states; Red States and Blue States into a United States of America.

This is the new American majority. This is what change looks like when it happens from the bottom up. And in this election, your voices will be heard.
...

That’s the choice in this primary. It’s about whether we choose to play the game, or whether we choose to end it; it’s change that polls well, or change we can believe in; it’s the past versus the future. And when I’m the Democratic nominee for President – that will be the choice in November.

...


Yes. We. Can.

Obamas inpsirational speeches touting peace, prosperity, and the Future of the American way, are so full of promises with
no plan to support these promises are getting old. If I hear the label polarizing or the misleading phrase "Change one more time I'm going to scream.
You can make all kinds of promises to the American people, but if they are not feasible or there is no roadmap to get from A to B then it's just
a bunch of emprty promises that will be inspiring but left unfufilled. Clinton has plans with maps and diagrams. She seems cold because she
is pointing out how policy works. To some extent you have to be a washington insider to accomplish goals. You have to be able to navigate the system
easily in order to take a different route when ready. If Obama goes in trying to overhaul the system with all of his talks of peace, love and joy, he will hit a brick wall. It works with the American people right now, but what they are in turn doing is putting the cheerleader in the game at quarterback with no play book.
Electing him is like accepting that we are going to get what is behind door # 3. He is unproven, green, and will not stand up to the test when the GOP throws all they have at him. We now John McCain is tough enough on his side because of his history and need we say anything about Senator Clinton and the abuse she
has endured.

Except it was referred to as a bonfire that was on its way to dying down.

Marshmallows :)

quote: "Barack relentlessly pushes victimology"

Does he ever!Yes!He!Does!

K&R

However, for those 18,000 in Madison who were hearing it for the first time.. it sounded like a complete Breath of Fresh Air.

Put it into perspective.. it's Obama's Stump Speech.. tinkered with from day to day, but basically the same message and same "jokes" (My cousin Cheney, Hope Monger, etc.).

Yup.. i'm sure that most at CNN, FOX, MSNBC, USA TODAY, CBS, NBC & ABC, as well as the papers are sick of this speech. But to the thousands that are hearing & seeing it for the first time, in person - it's mind blowing to most.

And that's ultimately who it's meant to impress.

Time will tell is my guess :)

The WSJ is, historically, a very good paper. The articles are relatively objective, relevant, timely and well researched. But the opinion page is a caricature of right wing thought. It is regularly some of the most extreme, reactionary, right wing bullshit I've ever read.

I don't put enough stock into it to click on the link.

Ya tired of it, don't listen to it.

He will win whether you hear him or not.

If it's not broke (and 8 straight wins suggest it is not broken) then why fix it? His message is resonating and no politician lives without a standard stump speech.

Who has the photo?

MORE EDUCATION!! *clap clap* UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!!!! *clap clap* NO HAT!!!! *clap clap*

That said if the dems don't grant the telco's immunity by tomorrow, we're all going to die.

Just checking..

That said if the Dems don't grant the telco's immunity by tomorrow, we're all going to die.

Just checking...