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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:48 PM
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Cool ad: Good Judgement makes all the difference
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:50 PM
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1. he showed such good judgment when
his greed caused him to climb in bed with a thug to buy a house he couldn't afford.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:53 PM
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3. Dammit, I lost!
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 04:59 PM by Kristi1696
I had a 50:50 shot that your post would be about McClurkin or Rezko. I went with McClurkin, being the topic du jour and all.

ETA:
We should try that with the Clintons some time. There's so many more options, so it would be much more difficult. A true test of mind-reading, if you will.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 PM
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10. Is this like the drining game?
:toast:

:rofl:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:57 PM
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5. Thank's For Pointing That Out!!!
It's such a relief knowing the Clintons would NEVER deal with "questionable" business relationshps!
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:59 PM
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7. Yes, do what you do best..
Ignore the facts, switch the topic, and make accusations you can't back up... Just like Hillary.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:05 PM
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13. The accusations are well documented.....n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:38 PM
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16. Not documented, however, is any accusation or implication of illegality or unethicality.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:50 AM
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20. Only goes to show Obama the FLIP-FLOPPER
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 05:53 AM by CatnHat
Go to Meet the Press interview with Obama.

Obama: In My Defense, That Lie Was Expedient

On "Meet the Press" this week, Barack Obama offered an explanation for his
shifting opinions (and his revisionist recollection of those opinions) on
the Iraq War, without displaying so much as a glimmer of comprehension that
what he said about himself was terribly incriminating.

Contrary to the Congressional newbie's untestable "I would've voted against
the war" assertions, Obama was singing a different tune a few years ago.

MR. RUSSERT: You were not in the Senate in October of 2002. You did give
a speech opposing the war. But Senator Clinton's campaign will say since
you've been a senator there's been no difference in your record. And other
critics will say that you've not been a leader against the war, and they
point to this:

In July of '04, Barack Obama, "I'm not privy to Senate
intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don't know," in terms of

Come to think about it; this topic deserves it own thread.
how you would have voted on the war. And then this: "There's not much of a
difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this
stage." That was July of '04.

And this: "I think" there's "some room for
disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war."

It doesn't seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you
left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have
voted for it.

So now we're left to wonder - is Obama's eternal, unshakable, principled
objection to the war fictional? Or is it real, but apparently so flimsy
that he was willing to publicly disavow it while he was auditioning for a
transfer from Springfield to Washington in 2004? Logically, those two
options would seem to be mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive. It
can't be neither and it can't be both.

Either option involves not only opportunistic bloodlust, but deceit in the
course of electioneering.

Since Obama is once again stumping for a
political promotion, shouldn't we assume that during this period, his
rhetoric is similarly calculated and his principles similarly manufactured?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:51 PM
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2. He could't have known all that back in 2002!
That tape has been doctored! ;)

Thanks for the link!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:54 PM
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4. I'll never forget Rachel Maddow recalling how she was driving around
in her car, because she didn't have a tv, listening to Clinton's speech, and crying because she couldn't believe she would vote Yea.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:58 PM
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6. Whoop, there it is. Just posted this in the video forum also. Thanks!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:59 PM
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8. Obama gives a lecture to GM auto workers
http://www.rrstar.com/news/columnists/x1514484105
- Rockford Register Star

chuck is a rockford republican who has had a column for years
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:00 PM
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9. Good spelling is important. Not to be judgmental.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:40 PM
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11. The Hillbots will make excuses for her until the end.
They just cannot admit, and more importantly SHE cannot admit, that the vote was a mistake.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:45 PM
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12. Obama was brilliantly prophetic back in 2002.
And, again, Hilly calling the IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION "diplomacy" is the biggest steaming pile of dung since, well, C. Rice summarily dismissing the 8-6-01 PDB entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike with the US" as no big whoop.

K&R for an excellent ad that I hope to see more of on the airwaves.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:12 PM
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14. His speech in 2002 is more intelligent, more correct, than anything Hillary has ever said.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:36 PM
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15. It was downright prophetic and that's what good judgment looks like.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:41 AM
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18. Obama's 2002 speech warning against a war in Iraq shows insight Hillary has never had and never will
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:30 AM
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19. You know I give her a pass on the war - reluctantly because I was
against it and a lot of other democrats were against it.


But how does anyone account for the fact that even to this day she cannot come out and say that it was a mistake.


The video is chilling k an r
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:40 PM
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17. Wow. I am impressed by Hillary in this.
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