Hillary Clinton’s voice filled with emotion today . . .

KENOSHA, Wis. - February 16, 2008--Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton’s voice filled with emotion today as she listened to the story of a mother and young daughter who said they were being forced from their home due to a skyrocketing adjustable mortgage.

Appearing at a rally and question and answer session inside the Brat Shop, a restaurant located off Interstate 94, the main north-south route between Chicago and Milwaukee, Clinton asked local officials if they could provide any help to the woman.

The woman, who identified herself only as Donna, took to a small dance-floor being used as a stage after her young daughter asked Clinton what she intended to do for “children that are going to lose their houses.”

Clinton invited the woman to join her at the microphone as her voice, already strained from speaking, filled with emotion. “Would you tell us how you’re losing your house?” the presidential candidate asked.

As the woman told her story of an adjustable rate mortgage that climbed from $600 a month to $1,000 while her income as a hairdresser fell, the audience of several hundred people fell silent.

“You know I’m really happy that they raised their hand,” Clinton said. “This is one of the biggest problems that we’re facing.”

Regaining her rhetoric, Clinton said, “A year ago, I started saying this is a disaster that is going to affect millions of millions of Americans. I said let’s stop these foreclosures and let’s help hard working people. These are people who pay their bills. These are people who work hard. Let’s help them stay in their homes instead of forcing them out of their houses.”

Clinton has called for a five-year freeze on interest rates on some adjustable rate mortgages and a 90-day moratorium on home foreclosures.

“I personally believe we should be freezing the interest rates on these adjustable rate mortgages. I have talked to people from Florida, Ohio, Nevada to California who are in the same position,” Clinton said. She said after she proposed a moratorium on foreclosures, “the White House said it was a terrible idea. My opponent criticized the idea. Well, this week, President Bush’s secretary of the treasurer said we’re going to have a moratorium.”

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/hillary_clinton_weeps_over_wom.html

cynicism sucks

Tell team Clinton that.

But you're unwilling to attribute normal human feelings to Hillary. You're the cynic here.

:eyes:

Im not a hater. But I recognize political opportunism. The Clintons will play on it, knowing that it works. Its classic Clinton. Are you denying it ronnyk?

You wanna go there. You just did.

Later.

I dont trust it. Thats all Im saying.

opportunism, because you've clearly already made up her mind about her.

Like Margaret Cho, I'm bi-candidate. I like both Clinton and Obama. Even while I recognize they're both politicians, I think their hearts are in the right place -- unlike the current occupant of the White HOuse.

team Clintons dismissal of the facts doesnt change them.

Weepy Withdrawal. Time to go. Shows over. Polls definitively showing a loss to Repub McCain if she's nominated. Team Clinton brought us NAFTA (loss of U.S. economy with the Clinton pen stroke & The Iraq War. oh yeah and 'Change'

Let's let the polls and the pundits decide the rest of the election. On to the coronation . . . Are Obama supporters afraid of the voters in these states?

Yes they will!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

you are such a stinker...

;)

I certainly don't hate woman, but knowing Hillary, I would expect some sniffles on Monday. It worked the day before New Hampshire and it worked the day before Super Tuesday.

say she DOES become president and we get attacked again will she make them stop by crying? Just askin'....

that is not the focus of the OP.

Can you understand that at all?

:shrug:

She got the right question from the right audience member (NOT a plant), and let the woman explain the difficulties that she was going through. It gave Hillary's voice a break, and probably moved the crowd immensely.

Hillary has always done better with an inter-action within a group, and I've been watching politics for almost 40 years now...

It worked out perfectly.

No snark, no kidding.

I swear.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna switch my support, but hey... as they say, "Well played, Madame."

:shrug:

Thank you for your kind comments. :)

And thank you for yours.

:hi:

Instead of just talking about it?

I just really think words are cheap, you know?

Writing a bill, advocating for it.... that's just empty rhetoric.

But a tear from Hillary is worth more than gold...

Real fucking nice.

I see that Obama supporters, even the ones I love are turning bitter and shitty.

well maybe I did, but I'm sorry, I don't want to be responsible for creating rifts, you guys should kiss and make up!

I'm sorry, for what it's worth

just remember, we all want the same thing and we're all basically on the same side. No matter what happens in November we're going to win because as soon as the nominee is chosen I know we all are going to work our butts off to make sure we elect a Democrat as president!

but let me tell you ... it's not going to be easy for me to buck up and put on a happy face and "support" Obama if he's the nominee. The fucked up SHIT I've had to deal with around here makes it VERY hard to do so.

Thanks for adding to that pile.

you have my word

and I love ya back you little shit!

:loveya:

During the lead-up to the war, people I thought I knew well became strangers to me. Now, I'm seeing that again. It's a disturbing trend.

The poster I responded to has always been someone I enjoy and like very much.

But this primary season has hardened my heart a LOT.

I just hope that I'm right when I say that DU doesn't represent the actual Democractic Party.

If it does, we are FUCKED!

I'd call it less bitter and shitty than cynical.

Really, really, really cynical.

I feel like she cries intentionally in order to show that she's a human being like the people she's talking to, but as a woman I'm really disappointed that she's furthering a sexist stereotype at the same time. Which sucks, beacuse it's the sexist society that's the problem and not her, but in some ways I feel like she's running an anti-feminist campaign, and that bugs me. Or maybe it's internalized sexism on my part. :P

But I feel like it's manipulative and because it's a strategy, it's setting the women's movement back 20 years.

Or, if it isn't manipulative and she is really crying, then why does she feel the need to be a hardass the rest of the time? Isn't that also sort of anti-feminist? :shrug:

"Clinton asked local officials if they could provide any help to the woman."

WI coat-tailing with Obama the last week!

just wanted to let you know why I'm not replying to you. I'm not trying to be rude, I just can't see your post ,so that's why I'm not replying.

Aug. 7, 2007

Hillary Clinton: It's the mortgage lending industry, stupid -

Hillary Clinton, in Derry, N.H., talking about Americans faced with a "dream of homeownership has turned into a nightmare of escalating payments and threatening letters."

Now, there are those who will tell you -- they tell me this -- "Well, that's just the way the market works, Hillary. Nothing we can do about it." Or they'll say, "Buyer beware. People just need to be more careful." Well, now, that's easy to say when it's not your home being taken away.

I don't think unscrupulous mortgage brokers should be part of how our markets work. I don't think families should be lured into buying homes they can't afford so brokers and mortgage companies can make a bigger profit. I don't think people should have to be on the lookout for unfair clauses buried on Page 700 of the fine print. And I don't think it's right that so many hard-working, responsible families across this country are losing their most precious possession and their most valuable asset.

Shades of 1992! If there is a clear and apparent economic issue to campaign on during the summer of 2007, it's undoubtedly the mortgage lending mess, spreading like an oil slick across both the "real economy" and Wall Street. Clinton deftly seized the moment Tuesday morning: Her speech offered a solid summary of how the mortgage lending industry zoomed out of control during the housing boom, and offered some explicit proposals on how to fix it.

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2007/08/07/hillary_clinton_mortgage/index.html


March 21, 2007

Clinton Reintroduces the 21st Century Housing Act

Legislation would Modernize the Federal Housing Administration and Provide a Strong Alternative to Subprime and Risky Mortgages

"Washington, DC - Amid continuing deterioration in the subprime mortgage industry, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton reintroduced legislation to provide more homebuyers with a safer and more effective alternative to subprime mortgages. The 21st Century Housing Act will modernize the Federal Housing Administration and allow more homebuyers to take advantage of the FHA mortgage insurance program.

"With the meltdown in the subprime housing market, it is clear that there needs to be a real alternative for more working families who want to achieve the dream of home ownership without having to jeopardize their financial futures with a risky mortgage product," said Senator Clinton. "Modernizing the FHA will be an effective way of providing that alternative and I will press in the Senate to take this long overdue step for our families," said Senator Clinton.

http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/details.cfm?id=271038

it's easy to introduce a bill, less easy to get it passed. What important legislation that has been passed has Clinton's name on it? I'm curious, I can't think of any

for lobbying reform and also the bill that put up that website that lists earmarks?

but the inference that she's not responsible for the advance of legislation because her name isn't on the top of bills is not credible. Many significant efforts in the Senate go unrecognized and lack signature legislation.

It really is. All the Obamaistas are claiming that she's never done anything about the mortgage crisis in the Senate, when she has. Now they back-track to, oh, she didn't fight for it. What does that even mean? Of course any Senator will fight for passage of legislation that they have sponsored & introduced. That's all they can do - they can't control the rest of the Senate. HRC introduced this bill in early 2006, during the 109th Repuke Congress. Of course the Republicans wouldn't pass it. But this tells me that she saw this mortgage crisis coming from far away. She reintroduced the bill in the 110th Congress, and the bill was approved by the Senate.

I've googled this for you as a favor -

First introduced May 2006 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-3173

Clinton re-introduced it in 2007 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-947

The bill passed overwhelmingly, w/93 Senators voting for the legislation.

Sen. Clinton statement on Senate approval of FHA reform -

http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=289092

She has also introduced a separate bill, called the "American Home Ownership Preservation Act of 2007". This bill would require mortgage companies to fully disclose the terms of a mortgage & prevent abusive & predatory loan practices.

"9/27/2007--Introduced.

S. 2114: American Home Ownership Preservation Act of 2007

A bill to amend the Truth in Lending Act, to provide for enhanced disclosures to consumers and enhanced regulation of mortgage brokers, and for other purposes.

Sponsor:

Sen. Hillary Clinton (no cosponsors)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2114

And another bill to help people who lose their homes as a result of natural disasters like Katrina.

S. 2310: Homeowners' Defense Act of 2007

A bill to establish a National Catastrophic Risks Consortium and a National Homeowners' Insurance Stabilization Program, and for other purposes.

Sponsor:
Sen. Hillary Clinton

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2310

She's also introduced a bill that would create incentives for employers to assist employees in their home payments - allowing more working class workers to own their own home.

S. 1078: Housing America's Workforce Act

A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for employer-provided employee housing assistance, and for other purposes.

Sponsor:
Sen. Hillary Clinton

Sen. Clinton speech in support of bill:

"The sad truth is that across the Nation, working full-time no longer guarantees the security and comfort of a home. The shortage of workforce housing has emerged as a national crisis as housing costs have far outgrown the rate of inflation in many markets. As the gap between wages and housing costs widens, affordable housing is pushed beyond the reach of an increasing number of working families.

As a result, people who provide the bulk of vital community services--teachers, firefighters, police officers, and laundry and restaurant workers--often cannot themselves afford to live in the high-priced communities in which they serve. That is why I am reintroducing the Housing America's Workforce Act.

This bill creates incentives to expand employer assisted housing initiatives across the Nation. ... Research has shown that this legislation is needed. Recent data shows that the number of working families with critical housing problems, defined as those paying more than half of their income for housing and/or living in dilapidated conditions, has increased 67 percent from 1997 to approximately 5 million families."

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1078


She also introduced another bill just two weeks ago to reduce foreclosures.


January 30, 2008

Senator Clinton Introduces the Mortgage Refinancing Initiative Act of 2008

Legislation Would Enable Tens of Thousands of Families in Danger of Foreclosure to Refinance their Mortgages

Washington, DC – In response to the escalating housing crisis that is devastating communities, shaking our economy, and putting the financial security of millions of families at risk, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton introduced the Mortgage Refinancing Initiative of 2008 which would provide an opportunity for at-risk households to refinance unworkable mortgages. Newly released data shows that 1.3 million households received foreclosure notices last year. Mounting foreclosures are contributing to the weakness in house prices, and therefore even families who are not at risk of losing their homes are affected. The decline in home prices has already cost families an estimated $1.6 trillion.

“We can reduce foreclosures by helping families replace costly and risky mortgages with stable, affordable ones. Today I am introducing the Mortgage Refinancing Initiative Act of 2008 to help states do just that”, said Senator Clinton.

Senator Clinton’s proposal has been applauded by groups such as the National Association of Realtors who have called Senator Clinton’s proposal a “flexible, timely and much-needed improvement to current law”, that would ensure that “more individuals and families would be able to stay in their homes without the threat of foreclosure.”

http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=291526

"I've googled this for you as a favor"

I do appreciate this! I'm going to give this a good read

Just one thing though, you mentioned a bill introduced two weeks ago. I don't pay too much attention to anything introduced by candidates during an election, so I will not pay any attention to that, but thank you for all the information!

I meant Hillary should have a campaign slogan saying, "Talk is cheap" referring to Obama who is all talk and an empty suit.

Thanks for your post though as I was pleased to learn of so many accomplishments by Hillary...love her more every day.

too few human beings . . . :hug:

If this was St. Obama, there would be floods of posts saying what a great guy he is and how he cares about the people. Why can't you just take it for what it is and maybe she just cares that the average people in this country can't even pay for their houses anymore? Good God, you people are like vipers. It didnt say she was C-R-Y-I-N-G for God's sake! You're like a bunch of rattlesnakes.
:eyes:

once again, no sign of tears to go with the media's insistence she was 'weeping'

It ruined the US economy. she should feel even worse for the millions of Iraq refugees that have been pushed out of their homes due to the war.

she is such a dumbass.

a war of aggression is much worse than a dumbass.

Methinks so...

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. . . without the support of folks like rodeodance.

Sure, they will more than likely vote for our Democratic nominee, but will they campaign with Obama supporters, canvass with them, make phone calls, talk Obama up with their neighbors, donate hard-earned cash to his campaign? I think that trashing of the opposition supporters shows a short-sightedness which doesn't reflect on you and your efforts here, any noticeable measure of that intelligence you insist is lacking in rodeodance.

Then maybe she could pay the mortgage.

real people, real solutions

because she showed a hint of emotion, and then bash her the rest of the time for being too emotionless.

possibly be human enough to care about something happening to another woman who but for certain circumstances is not in her shoes, running for the office of POTUS.

And the Obama supporters are turning more and more into arrogant assholes by the second.

Oh, but it's all about "UNITY", "Change" and "Hope". Fuck that.

The gentleman from Ill will gladly get my vote if he's the nominee. But at this point with the fucking shit I've put up with in here, I can't promiss to "support" him in anyway other than voting. I'm in California and thank god it's a safe state for a democrat.

Oh, I hope I don't have an hang nail on election day.

can (and do) act like idiots. :)

I look at what the candidates have actually done previously because we all know that they promise the moon and the stars when running for office.

:loveya: You still love me right?

I've never bashed Hillary for showing some emotion, and I never will. :) And all those nasty Chelsea threads, well I hid them from the titles I knew it wouldn't be pretty. Plus, I like Chelsea.

:loveya:

A take from my favorite Stevie Nicks song!

You my homegirl!

I hope Donna and her family are doing okay. Something has to be done.

cause she shows some emotion!


the article said she asked local official to check on the situation.

Let's freeze wages, prices, whatever. Never has worked, never will. This is a really looney idea :dem:

If there is no such freeze, monthly mortgage payments will suddenly rise for millions of current homeowners, forcing many of them out on the street through foreclosure because of their inability to pay the new, higher rate.

Clinton says the rate freeze should last "until the mortgages have been converted into affordable, fixed-rate loans."

Hey, why is Hillary asking someone else if they can help? I thought SHE was in the solution business. It appears that she's all hat, no cattle.

We all love a good, empty cry though, don't we?

She's introduced legislation to stop subprime lenders & offer an alternative for working-class homeowners. That's if you're actually interested, & didn't just want a chance to get in a "cry" jab.

to the community discussion.

Show me where she 'cried'. That's not in the article or in the photos of the event. Just the opportunistic title.

Obviously that question wasn't asked.

This woman, like so many, will not be able to afford enforced healthcare insurance that doesn't even address the issues of affordability or insurance loopholes under the Hillary mandated healthcare plan.

Will Hillary give her the teary half-smile when the woman is forced to pay a fine since she can't afford Hillary's healthcare?

Hmm, go figure.

I know I'm the newbie and will be put properly in my place for this, but I got a thick hide. Y'all know that the Clinton's are Bar room brawling,pit fighting, 25th level hardcore ninja pols, who study Sun Tzu and Machiavelli. So I ask this question to the Clinton supporters, I really want to know. I have seen Hillary "cry" 3 or 4 times just this year. So my question. How many times did she cry in all the last ten years, wait, make that 20 years, publicly, in front of cameras?
I've been familiar with the Clinton's since they were Governors of Arkansas. I've never even heard of her crying. I've heard of her making others cry. But hey, I'm just a Southern born, Southern raised, Blue collar, Independent thinking, "nuckldraggin" good ol boy voting for Obama. So I just might not be in tune with my prejudices. And yes people, Obama, thus the Dems, can carry the South if the nomination isn't "bestowed" on the Clinton's. I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but I vote, and there are many of us out here who feel the same way.

From someone who lives among the people and doesn't drink either parties koolaid.

I think the question should be, where in her career has the media been so obsessed with her showing of emotion as they've been in this presidential campaign? And, where have they shown similar concern and interest in the emotional displays of Reagan BushI, BushII . . . ?

And "cry" was the wrong word, should have been "emotional". But, Hillary has played herself as the tough as nails "Iron Lady", for as long as I can remember. To someone such as myself, it seems fake and contrived. Plus, don't you think Hillary wants the news to show she has emotion? That maybe it is contrived, to show us poor rubes she feels our pain? Now, you got women fainting at Obama rallies, that makes me wonder,too. But hey, I'm naturally suspicious of all pols from both sides. I just see how Obama was not supposed to get this far and how it is shaking up the Establishment. Still trying to wrap my head around Kennedy backing Obama and him winning Iowa. Very surprised by all that. He may be another McGovern, he may become the Greatest President ever. But, the one thing he is, to me and many like me, is a real change. For better, or worse. The Clinton's and Bush's are more of the same.
Side questions. Why do you think Bill and Bush Sr. have been so buddy buddy lately?

In the last election our choices were two mega rich white men, from the same Elite college, members of the same secret organization, and during the debates both wore red ties and blue suits. For those who think outside the box. Don't that seem odd? I would consider it something to think about. Thank you bigtree,for being civil, I know emotions are running high and its just going to get worse, but somethings got to give. Our two party system is broken and is not what the founding Fathers envisioned. You take care

to ensure that enough tax credits and free loans will be given to the mortgage companies so that they might not have to foreclose on so many mortgagees. Touching really.

. . . or the media reporting that display of emotion as 'weeping' or crying?

:sarcasm:

election. Maybe good for the primary but not so good for the general election.

I wonder how many folks appreciate the empathy and concern?

I didn't see any tears shed for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi innocents she just sentenced to death.

. . . blaming Democrats for what Bush is ultimately responsible for.

So the "tough and tested" Hillary Clinton is weeping or nearly weeping again??? It worked once in NH. Give it up and toughen up.

Who the hell does she think she is, giving a damn??

Fine to care. Of course all we Dems care. We all have a heart. We all have compassion. But you don't go repeatedly weepy and not expect not to be criticized when in the next breath you keep talking about how "tough" you are. It starts to look like a ploy to attract female voting block sympathy from someone who may be trying to reverse an image of a lack of compassion, it makes the candidate look contradictory, and fuels the Republican attack machine against a "weepy" potential commander in chief. If you're gonna be "tough" then be "tough" and not repeatedly weepy. It looks fake as hell.

that they would never bother commenting on if it were a male candidate?

But, to clarify, even the writer of the article didn't claim that she was "nearly weeping." That's just your exaggeration.

Why do you have to come on these threads to bad mouth HRC?
It almost like you are in a cult or something.....

...they call it "charasma" or "passion" or "excitement". When he hugs a vet, that's emotional but they don't call it that....

Odd huh?

Love the double-standards in reporting. Not.

It's not about gender. It's about who can UNITE the country, inspire people, and be the best leader for the party in the general election. Obama can. Hillary's negatives are so high she can't. Obama is passionate, but not weepy. It has nothing to do with gender here. Kindly give up that foolishness. It holds zero water.

Your choice of blindness to it doesn't change that fact. There's a blatant double-standard in how Clinton is reported about vs how Obama is.

And THAT is what's cheap.

Can the government void a contract between a lender and the borrower on a whim?

This makes no sense to me...

I think it was a bar or a boxing ring.

But whatever.

. . . whatever

I am still waiting for her to shed a single tear for the Iraqi people we killed, wounded, or displaced on account of her IWR vote. Shall we mention her lack of empathy for the Lebanese when Israel bombed their cities and towns, or her silence about Israel's oppression of the Palestinians?

The woman that once hugged Ariel Sharon and called him a great man can only cry for herself!

Hillary's either damned for being too emotional or damned for being a cold, calculating, political machine.

Once again, a strong woman is trapped in the culture's double-bind.

emotion right before elections. 2+2=?

I'm sure her voice has been "full" before. I'm sure she has been "touched" before. But the MSM didn't bother to comment on it. She was "only" the First Lady.

And besides, everyone "knew" she was the Ice Queen. The MSM didn't want to mess up their storyline . . . until now.

inspiring