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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:42 PM
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New Spanish leader José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero "I want Kerry to win"
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 03:47 PM by PA-DEM
Now the media and Colin Powell can shut the F up.

The Spanish opposition leader in the general election this Sunday, the socialist José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, said yesterday: "I think Kerry will win. I want Kerry to win."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1166063,00.html
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:45 PM
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1. Last Tuesday - before the attacks, way before elections
Not likely to be repeated by Zapatero. But it's still a ringing endorsement I wholeheartedly concur with! :D
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:36 AM
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14. Last night on Nightline
a Spanish reporter said the SAME thing. The new leader of Spain makes no bones about the fact that he wants Bush gone and Kerry in. He HATES Bush.....surprising. :eyes:
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:46 PM
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2. That just gives ....
the right the ability to say see "Kerry is (ans is supported by) socialists".

I'm not convinced this is a great thing. What needs to happen, is all the countrys of the unwilling (ie didn't go along with AWOLs war), ned to step up and create a coalition against AWOL, by saying they suppoty Kerry.

Cheers
Drifter
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:50 PM
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5. True
But no matter who would step forward they would find something nasty to say about that leader. That is why Kerry should just tell them to go fly a kite like he did when they wanted an apology for telling the truth about there crooked and lying way's.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:34 PM
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12. yeah, but socialists in spain
and most other european countries aren't actually socialists...just vestigal names from an earlier time
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:42 AM
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15. Really? What's the differentiation?
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:50 PM
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22. Socialists = Social-democrats = center-left in Southern Europe
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 12:52 PM by Capt_Nemo
And too much centrist and not enough leftist, by the way...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:47 PM
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3. Damn even Colin Powell is in on this?
I had some hope for him.

How sad. :(
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:47 PM
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4. i hope Zapatero has good personal security
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:06 PM
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6. Pakistan
So, George is buying friends? Pakistan is "pro-Republican" because they give them lots of money? WTF???
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:13 PM
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7. lol---he spanked Powell good! and condi rice too along with bush...
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:01 PM
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8. Problems For The Leaders If Bush Wins
So few are willing to put themselves on a limb when their national economy is on the line - Bush has already shown that he is willing to economically punish any resistance.

But this is great news that whacks the hanging curve the GOP threw out yesterday and today. This is going to make it into the national press easily and make Bush seem even more of an ass.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:17 PM
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9. foreign leaders silence about * is deafening
It's not as if anyone's been rallying to *'s defense of late... most would fear doing so at least in countries with elections fearing the wrath of their people.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:32 PM
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21. you can't blame them
the bush administration has been more than willing to punish whole nations when they've felt slighted by their leaders. these guys don't know who will win in november, and they don't know if stating a preference would even *help* the guy they want to help. all they know is that they will have to work with the winner, and if that winner happens to be bush... it will be tough for the naysayers to get any favors.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:32 PM
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10. This is awesome!
Great news! Now the idiots on the right can finally shut their damn cakeholes. One question--did Kerry know about this "endorsement" before he made the comment about world leaders wanting him to win? Because if not, it just makes it all that much sweeter.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:28 AM
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13. Hi air napkin!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:34 PM
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11. traitors and terrorists for Kerry
How the world lines up

How foreign leaders are believed to view the rivals:

For Kerry
Germany
France
Entire Arab world
Most of Latin America

Neutral/unknown
Britain
Russia
Israel
Iraq

For Bush
Spain
Italy
Pakistan
Azerbaijan
Eritrea
Uzbekistan
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:43 AM
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16. Eritreans for Bush? Damn!
What could we do to break Bush's lock on the support of Eritrea? In a close election, the support of global powerhouse like Eritrea could make the difference!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:07 AM
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17. I'd definitely put Saudi Arabia in the Bush column. (n/t)
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:10 AM
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18. .
I think you need to remove Spain from the "for Bush" list...
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:18 AM
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19. Spain now lines with Kerry...
We have to put spain in the Kerry column now. :-)

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:27 PM
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20. spain is now on kerry's side, but saudi arabia is bush's side
south korea and japan are also on kerry's side. most of the arab world is on kerry's side but not the saudi leaders.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:23 PM
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23. That was all straight from the article in the original post!
Sorry I forgot to cite it. Spain is for Kerry.

I think that since Pakistan loves Bush so much, he should visit and see how long he stays alive.

I'm sure the people of the Bush countries don't support him, its just the governments. Some eastern European countries such as Poland support Bush because he makes them feel important by asking them to send their sons to die in Iraq.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:42 PM
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24. Great news but they need to update this
For Kerry
Germany
France
Entire Arab world
Most of Latin America

Neutral/unknown
Britain
Russia
Israel
Iraq

For Bush
Spain
Italy
Pakistan
Azerbaijan
Eritrea
Uzbekistan

Add Spain to for Kerry.
Bush has Italy lol, I'd love to have a self described fascist/ media boss endorse me if I were George W. Go Kerry and Zapatero. This is great news.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:50 PM
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25. I bet India is neutral/unsure.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 02:50 PM by indie_voter
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:51 PM
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26. not sure
I dont know much about their government.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:53 PM
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27. Yes
The initial reports on this came out in English on NewsMax, but it was reported in Spanish and Swedish Language papers yesterday.

Of course this is being spun as doing what Al Qaeda wants, but the E.U.'s investigation seem to be favoring the idea that attacking Iraq wasted valuable time and resources that would have been better spent trying top cature Osama bin Laden and the other leaders of Al Qaeda, as well as to try to track down and capture groups lionked to Al Qaeda in Europe and the U.S.

Since no links between Saddam and Al Qaeda have been found, and since there were not WMDs for Sadda to give to AL Qaeda, or any economic or other support given by Saddam to AL Qaeda, the war with Iraq is now being viewed in most European capitals and in Brussels as being totally having no effect or relation to Islamic Terrorism. particularly because until the coalition of the willing went to war with Iraq, one of the goals of AL Qaeda was to remove Saddams secular government and replace it with an Islamic Republic.

It might be reasonably argued that George Bush and the coaltion of the willing assisted Al Qaeda reach oone of its own goals, making it easier for them to try to set up an Islamic State in Iraq by destabilizing the area as soon as the U.S. turns over control to the Iraqi's.
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