:evilgrin:

:) :rofl:

The best candidate with the most substance.

He's better than Edwards

:shrug:

That's what I plan on doing unless somehthing drastic happens.

I encourage others to do the same.

And yes, if everybody leaning Dem. followed their conscience it might lead to a McCain presidency.
But I will guarantee you, if everybody doesn't it will lead to a Clinton or Obama presidency.

Again, if only :cry:

:hi:

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

:hug:

But he won't run. He's happy being away from politics.

Maybe in 2012.

I wrote a piece 'way back that there was a secret deal between Gore and the Clintons (Obama was not an anticipated significant player at the time).

It said basically that Bill and Hil talked to Al (it was at the Clinton Foundation fundraiser a couple of years ago) and said "why the hell aren't you running?" and he gave them the "fallen out of love with politics" and "toxic environment" arguments. They granted him that he'd been screwed over and understood why, with his new rockstar status, he'd be reluctant to wade into the fray. So they said Hillary would be a stalking horse; she'd run, take all the vitriol right up to the convention, lull the pugs into spending all their time planning an anti-Hillary campaign, and then she'd step aside and hand it to him.

The deal was that the best possible person to be the next POTUS would get the job, and the Clinton's would benefit from the ensuing period of good leadership. Bill could become some sort of roving ambassador, and Hil would probably get the Speakership. correction: Senate Majority Leader (buh-bye, Harry)

It was, as I said in the piece, a whimsical flight of fancy. It was before Hillary had even announced.

Funny how events seem to have sort of followed that forecast, to the point that it is at least being speculated upon now!

I could be reasonably assured that Al wouldn't be in the MIC's pocket, and he'll bankrupt the people who pollute with his pollution tax...

*sigh*

Too bad it's only a dream.

:hide:

Has the love fest started yet today? I'm just getting on now.

And to endorse Lee Mercer Jr.

really a Dem?

You have some antiquated notions.

My notions and party affiliation are fine.

http://www.mercerforpresident2008.com/c14f7f9dd9bbed555232a5cb8defd6f7.html

Does that chip on your shoulder bother you when you sleep?

This is my dream. Gore could truly unite the party. And deal with this MESS 8 years of those criminals have left.

President Al Gore.

:hug:

This OP even has me posting over here...smirk, smirk! :D

And I don't care which one is his Veep. Though I like Richardson as Veep, myself.

That is a bandwagon I could get excited about.

at this point I think it would be a catastrophe. Obama has inspired so much enthusiasm among new voters that I fear all of that would be lost if his candidacy were derailed.

..he is a visionary and inspired statesman. If there was no way to go forward with either Obama or Clinton - this would be the high road.

in the primaries, there is no way in hell that voters are going to simply say "never mind" and dutifully vote for another candidate. IMO.

A Gore/Obama ticket might take care of the next 16 years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4629890

it says he would broker a deal...

that is, play the mediator - the deal could be to dub Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Edwards...

ya gotta wonder - was Edwards abrupt exit and subsequent lack of endorsing part of a deal?

I would gladly take a Biden POTUS, Edwards as AG (although Biden has spoken negatively of JRE, so that might be out) with Dodd, Gore, Richardson, both Clintons, and Obama all playing leadership roles.

Frankly, the three mentioned in previous pp who are sitting Senators would probably serve best by staying in Senate, but whatever.

Maybe the deal could be Biden as POTUS, Obama as VP (think 2020, Obamaites!), and Hillary as Majority Leader.

That would absolutely trump any negatives about Obama in foreign policy, and what many people are not aware of is that Joe's history of community legal work when just out of law school, quitting a big-lawfirm lucrative job to work in inner city, is pretty damned Obama-esque.

You want someone with HOPE? Go back and listen to Joe saying "Get Up!"

Ok, another foolish flight of fancy. But I feel better for having indulged myself.

Back to the real world... :)

We need hope for positive change.

...with the way Edwards left so abruptly and has yet to endorse either remaining Dem, that he made a deal with both of them that he would be the VP for whoever wins the nomination. This will likely be decided before the convention when he will support the front runner and give him or her his delegates.

There will be either an Obama/Edwards or Clinton/Edwards ticket. I would wager a decent sum on it.

:hi: I'd get behind that in a big way (and I have a BIG behind!) :rofl:

:hug: :hi:

By others with some credibility.

...or point me in the right direction.
I am a foolish person who still holds out hope....sigh.

asleep at this point (i'm always late to the freakin party!)

i'll do a search.

meanwhile--I LOVE THIS THREAD!

This sounds like "wishful thinking/ instant gratification."

You can put us... on Ignore...

Wouldn't it be loverly???

:hi::rofl::hi:

:hug:

Thats good :D

:evilgrin:

I see trouble...

:patriot:

I'm enjoying the hell out of all the earnest people who are taking this veddy, veddy seriously! :rofl:

not too happy with the two front-runners.

The world loves Gore.
:loveya:

:thumbsup:

Perot thought it was good enough for him, just not the rest of the nation. Perot was never the same political force after that debate, had it been a fight they would've called it in the first round. That debate was consistent with Al Gore's championing opening up the Internet for the people while he was in Congress and as Vice-President, in both cases he was opposing monopoly. In the first case it was trade, in the second it was information, so in that sense you thank Al Gore for empowering you to promote your anti-Nafta message for all the world to see, unless of course you're a member of the corporate media.

One other point, Al Gore hasn't been in power since the very first days of 2000 and as such didn't have the opportunity to make any needed adjustments to NAFTA.

What would you have him do?

Gore took it to the Supreme Court.

No, he did not. Bush took it to the Supreme Court.

Gore didn't fight hard enough.

While you didn't say that, others have. He did everything he could without, as he saw it, bringing about a constitutional crisis.

and let him hang to dry. This should have been a fight that ALL OF THE DEMOCRATS took up and instead they abandon Gore and us!

No Senator would join with the Congressional Black Caucus...

He used all of the options that were available to him under Florida and Federal law.

He fought against the combined forces of Karl Rove, James Baker, Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris.

And all the while the MSM were demanding "closure" and the GOP were calling Gore a "Sore Loserman".

Democrats sat in front of their TVs while Republicans used physical force to disrupt the recounts in Florida.

Gore did not concede until December 12th, after the US Supreme Court had taken the decision to stop the recounts in Florida.

In fact he did not concede the election, but he did say that we accepted the Supreme Court's authority.

At that point in time, there were no other options open to Gore that would have changed the outcome.

Technically, he could have thought about having Congress challenge the Florida delegates, but after the Supreme Court ruling, and cosidering that the Republicans had a majority in both houses of Congress, it would not have changed the outcome.

Al Gore explained that he wanted to put the best interests of America before his own personal interests.

At the same time, he also made it clear that he strongly disagreed with the Supreme Court's rulings.

Trooper with many of the Washington guys with him, Bush disgrace the nation, with his stupidity by otehre U.S. senators disgraced the nation with their action during the vote county. Al Gore acted like the statesman he is.

He would have had to argue the vote suppression to the same man who was actively involved in voter suppression in the 60's. You think that would have worked out any differently?

“When we arrived, the situation was tense. At that precinct I saw William Rehnquist, who was serving as the only Republican challenger (emphasis added). The FBI agent and I both showed our identifications to those concerned, including Mr. Rehnquist . . . The complaints did involve Mr. Rehnquist’s conduct. Our arrival and the showing of our identifications had a quieting effect on the situation and after interviewing several witnesses, we left. Criminal prosecution was declined as a matter of prosecutorial discretion . . .

“I have read the testimony and letter supplied by Justice Designate William Rehnquist to this committee in 1971 . . . He describes his role in the early 1960s as trying to arbitrate disputes at polling places. That is not what Mr. Rehnquist was doing when I saw him on Election Day in 1962.

http://badattitudes.com/Rehnquist.html

Gore has won an Oscar, something that Reagan and Schwarzenegger haven't done. Maybe that would earn some crossover votes...

Al has made over $300 million since 2000. Do you want that IRS return made public?

He's great as elder statesman, but his standing is largely due to his NOT being involved in the nomination process. If he's smart, and he is, he'll stay out of it entirely.

:woohoo:

:hug:

as the nominee. I should start a poll. :)

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:)

Here's a 12-step program for you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2880943

:hi: :hug:

good to see your evil grin. :rofl:

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:wow: :yourock: DU!

ending after all this Karl Rove-inspired internecine warfare.

:hi:

I agree, get rid of these two and put up a decent, viable, honest, truthful candidate.

:hug:

Possibly the best ticket.

Brokered convention, here we come! Uncommitted and committed delegates for Gore, here we go!

Oh what could have been. He thought Hillary's campaign was invincible. I know that Gore and all of us are kicking ourselves now, and that is the real disappointment.

that would be the best result for the country

Is an inconvenient truth.:)

:applause:

:kick:

and time and voters Obama managed to get out, Gore will come in and basically steal it from him. Gore knows what it's like to have an election stolen. I was really hoping for Gore a few months ago but now I would think of it as a theft. And to think all those who would vote for Obama would vote for Gore after this charade I think is a mistake.

In a perfect world, and in a perfect moment, Al Gore would pay the Clintons back for all the scandals they left him to overcome by himself in the 2000 election and endorse Barack Obama. You never know. He just might.

And seriously. It's time to wrap up Amateur Hour and bring in a real President.

You got me

:evilgrin:

and he lost to the stupidest man ever to run for the office.

Here's to sixteen years of progressive leadership for America! B-)

:kick:

Poll Time. :)

I stll have the map where i filled in colors when each state was called.... florida is a pitch black void where i left my optimisim for the rule of law....

he will always be President Gore to me.

That would be the utmost in awesomenessity!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I like his platform too http://current.com/people/algore

i'm getting so emotionally involved in the politics of this nation i dream about it. for real. i've dreamed about al gore twice, and the other night i dreamt that hillary clinton quit her bid for the presidency. the dream was so vivid i thought it was true til i came to DU, as i do a dozen times or more daily.

The other night I dreamed I was interviewing Arlen Specter for a radio show and he kept changing his answers.

:eyes:

:sarcasm:

With all the people talking about hope, you would think they would let others in on the action. Can't we have a little hope, or is there a monopoly on that concept this year?

K&R!

Wouldn't THAT just drive Luntz and the Reich-Wingnuts out of their selfish little minds


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is,
the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith


:)

nice one, Helderheid. Thought that one up nuchter, did you really?

xb

:D :evilgrin: :hi: :hug:

Mr. Gore has clearly sat out the primary. I respect him, but for him to enter as the compromise candidate at this time would just be wrong. Let's just let the voters decide, mmkay?

experienced political people are mentioning the possibility.

Lighten up, mmkay?

. .Gore had his chance, God only knows how much we pleaded, in 2007 to come to the rescue as a late entry.

NOW, all I wish for is a Gore endorsement for Obama. Then, Obama can pick with whom he fits best. . . one possibility is my other wish. . .VP Wesley K. Clark. . .THEN, McCain would sink like a rock.
So. . .

Obama family of supporters, keep your sails full as you tack into the primaries ahead

. . .then by June, how 'bout this ticket:

OBAMA / CLARK 2008

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

K&R

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of the DNC, that is.

:hi:

If only ... :cry: :grouphug:

Very funny!

Hi helderheid!

:hi:

And so we have the costly silence of Al Gore. :evilgrin:

:shrug:

Ah well.