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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:48 PM
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Poll question: Do you believe ANYBODY on our ticket will be better than McCain?
I think we may be on the same page after all...

Eh DU? :grouphug:
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:53 PM
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1. The "no" votes -- is this evidence of "stop the Clintons at any cost"

thinking? It certainly is a pertinent question at this point.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM
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2. Please don't just blame the NO's on Obama folks...
There is enough temper tantrums on both sides.

I dearly hope Obama is our nominee - but Hillary would still get my vote.

Anything less is placid support of the war monger puke bastard machine. If someone is a NO voter, WTF even post on DU?

At the end of the day --- we are supporting the Dems right??? DEMOCRATIC underground right?


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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM
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4. I voted yes. We have two terrific candidates as of now.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM by JohnnyLib2
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:07 PM
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9. Evidence of people just like yourself
those that can take a good natured opportunity to show solidarity and instead fling poo based on your personal bias.

Congratulations - you are part of the problem.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:12 PM
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10. It's tempting to just ignore those no votes,
but not wise, IMO. I want to minimize the chance of electing the pro-Iraq policy McCain.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:14 PM
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12. But why attribute them to a specific candidate?
There's thread after thread of followers on BOTH sides moaning and threatening that they will ONLY vote for their chosen candidate in the GE.

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:28 PM
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14. You're right, dang it, I did that!

Coulda/shoulda waited for another thread, another time :hi:
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 PM
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15. Np. Sorry for the strong talk.
I'm in a grumpy way today.

:toast:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:16 AM
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29. Oh brother. Why do you go there?
I've seen just as many "I won't vote if the Dem nominee is Obama" as I have seen of Clinton. Just as many.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM
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3. Where is the "by a fucking landslide" option?
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM
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5. Hmpf...
I'd be real interested in learning who cast the "No" votes and why... Probably serve as a real indication of why there is so much consternation around here lately.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:05 PM
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8. Hence my question in reply 1......
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:09 PM by JohnnyLib2
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:02 PM
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6. Option 2 should equal automatic tombstoning.
Bush and Gore are exactly the same.

I've heard this tune before.
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:05 PM
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7. I hope that more people vote yes...
15% would support McCain over Obama or Hillary (depending on which they don't support)? :wow: :wtf:


I hope this changes before November.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:12 PM
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11. The NO votes are individuals who've abandoned reason
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:15 PM
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13. Hopeless but effective - media, opem primaries - freepers messing us up
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:45 PM
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16. K&R.
Posts that lack rediculous claims about one of the candidates have a way of slipping off of the first page amazingly fast.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:47 PM
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17. Define "better"
Better as in a better President? Obviously. Better as in more electable? I'm not so sure.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:04 PM
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18. OK
Better able to protect your personal liberties
Better able to appoint an appropriate judge to SCOTUS
Better able to protect the environment
Better able to provide women have reproductive freedom
Better able to end the fucked up war in Iraq
Better able to NOT start another war with Iran
Better able to end NCLB
Better able to provide accessible health insurance
etc....

That kind of better.



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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:26 PM
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19. would the repubs have been better off without a Bush presidency?
To me, Obama is the Democratic version of Bush. He has no experience, no particular qualifications, and his plans don't hold up under scrutiny. I also see no difference between emotional rhetoric about faith and prayers versus the same nonsense that promises hope and inspiration.

I have literally spent MANY hours every week, not to mention thousands of dollars of my own money trying to rebuild the Democratic party in my area, and I honestly believe it has made a difference. Right now it's looking as though it was all just a waste of time and effort though. There is no gain to the world, the country or the party through Obama.

McCain is not Huckabee. he has some good qualifications, and despite his claims about staying in Iraq, some insiders think he would have us out of there fairly quickly. I think McCain also has a genuine desire to do right by the country and its people. Had you told me a year ago that I would ever vote repub, I would have bet my house you were wrong, but today I think that if Obama is the candidate, a McCain vote is the only reasonable choice.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:19 PM
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20. 100 years in Iraq??? And you prefer McCain!
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 06:22 PM by RiverStone
If you, jbm, see McCain as better for our country, our personal liberties, our planet, our likelihood of getting into a war with Iran, and continuing the failed policies of Shrub....

If you really see him as better than Obama then (as McCain says 10X per speech) my friend, you have seriously lost your way...

There are no words of reason that I can fathom to try and sway someone that far gone.

Since I believe Obama will be our Democratic nominee - guess you will be voting for a rethug named McCain. :puke:

WARNING: Voting for a puke may make you very sick.

Damn sorry about that jbm, can I send you some Rolaids?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:14 PM
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23. Wow, your poll turned up a shocker.

My head spinneth.:crazy:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:20 PM
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21. people voting no need to log off DU
whether or not they fuck themselves afterwards is up to them, but I'd recommend a white hot poker
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:30 PM
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22. Is McCain a Republican? Well, then.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 AM
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24. self kick - come on DUers - we gotta break 90% on this....
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:11 AM by RiverStone
peace~:)
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:13 AM
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25. Better as in better president yes, better as in able to win in November then no.
McCain would beat Clinton.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:13 AM
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26. A Democratic ham sandwich would be better, n/t
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 AM
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27. Let's wave to eight people from FreeRepulblic!
Hi-dee-ho, neighbor! Eaten any cyanide lately?
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 AM
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28. GASP! there are traitors amongst us! nt
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