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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:51 PM
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Clinton needs to point out the strange alliance of Obama and the right-wing
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 PM by DemGa
It's indisputable that Hillary's "high negatives" among Republicans are due to years of right-wing attacks. And this is something Obama has no qualms about using openly to his advantage. It's very slick indeed.

And he should be called on it.

It would hit Obama in his strength -- that being Hillary's "negatives."

Of course the best part -- it's the truth.

Ed: typo
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:54 PM
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1. Obama attacking his own party is something that..
he must be called out on.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:54 PM
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2. You think her campaign should invoe a meme about how high her negatives are?
They have done stupider things, but this would be beyond the pale.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:59 PM
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8. Certainly, in the context of Obama's overt capitalization
of right-wing attacks. It's a winner. No one likes that kind of alliance with the opposition.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM
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10. Because everyone is looking forward to more fights for the sake of fights
and total gridlock?

Double check me on this, but it seems that droves of our countrymen are turning that approach down.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:57 PM
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21. LOL 50% and on the rise.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:54 PM
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3. Obama attacking his own party is something that..
he must be made accountable for.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 AM
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25. By who? Hill? H ha ha ha ha ah. She's toast man, you are going to have to do it yourself.
Your warrior queen is too busy hoping to play catch-up.

Hillary is trying to change her campaign before it's too late. In fact she's hoping it's not already too late.

Why not write a letter to the editor?

You can be the accountibilty you seek.

Let us know if they publish it, OK?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM
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4. Biggest RW alliance there is: Bill Clinton with Poppy Bush, Dubai and Saudi royals
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM by blm
By all means LET'S have that debate.

No Democrat did more to protect BushInc over the last two decades.

I side with Obama, Kennedy and Kerry. You side with Clintons and Bushes.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:08 PM
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14. Yep.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 PM
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5. Ann Coulter
Nuff Said.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:59 PM
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6. You bought that shit. I thought you were intelligent. ROFL. Limbaugh is thinking of endorsing Obama
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 02:59 PM by xultar
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 PM
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9. Ann Coulter calls Obama B. Hussein Obama. She refers to him as President Hussein
She is no supporter of him.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:01 PM
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11. Again, you bought that shit? I thought you were intelligent.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:02 PM
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12. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck mulling endorsement for Obama S
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:03 PM by xultar
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:59 PM
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7. Once again, we see the bogus implication that ONLY RWers have problems with Hillary Clinton, when ..
there are MANY MANY voters who (whether right or wrong in their view) could very well, or would even be likely to, vote for a Democrat for president, who will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Anti-Clinton sentiment based on factors like 'triangulation' and, eg, her choosing to reopen the whole issue of flag-burning, for apparently purely opportunistic reasons. After all, in "triangulating" and engaging in other strategems to supposedly win over swing voters (including her fairly hawkish politics, for a Democrat), she surely CHOSE to follow a course that would inexorably alienate many voters on both the "far" left (such as myself) and the liberal left.

One of the various canards being put forward repeatedly on DU, actually moreso as other Obama-bashing memes have either bitten the dust or lost their sting, is that he is somehow being promoted, presumably mainly secretly, by the rightwing. I have not seen evidence of that and this OP doesn't furnish any.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:03 PM
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13. Then should the alliance of Hillary and PNAC be pointed out?
Should she be called on that? Many think that's true.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:01 PM
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22. You bet!! What does the IWR vote tell you??
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SPURGEMAN23 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:10 PM
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15. Who gives a crap about the right-wing's thoughts?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:14 PM by SPURGEMAN23
They are all about creating doubts in your mind, regardless of who you support. They want you to think there is going to be this "hard-sell" for either of our candidates. Have you not seen the number voters in the primaries? There has never been more excitment to vote for a Democrat in decades. Their only course of action is supress your energy, thus your vote and keep you from being excited about getting 5-10 friends to vote along with you.

I have been hearing from friends for years that the reason they listen to Rush or watch O'Liley is to hear what is being said. Trust me, turn it off and focus on reality. The problem with the Dems in congress today is that they are worried about what will be said about them by the Right-Wing propaganda machine. Look, when they stood up to them in regard to the privatization of SS, they were lambasted in the press, but it worked. Same with calling Bush on the FISA stuff this weekend.

The only way they influence the election is if you beleive what they are selling. Just turn it off and go get 10 friends to vote for Democrats in 2008.

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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:14 PM
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16. OMG nooooo.....Obama pleases some conservatives!!!!
You people really need to get over yourselves and realize that unless some in the right wing are at least neutral on our candidate, we have almost no chance of winning. Further, just because he is close with some right wingers doesn't mean he is a right winger. Obama will be more progressive than Bill Clinton and will get more republican votes by far than him....if there is something wrong with that please let me know.

THIS IS A WHOLE COUNTRY, NOT A RIGHT WING, A CENTER, AND A LEFT WING....AS LONG AS OBAMA IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT I WOULD IMPLORE HIM TO ALLY HIMSELF WITH EVERYONE, NOT JUST LEFTISTS.

Besides, I would rather him ally with people than with lobbyists like Hillary Clinton and John McCain.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:17 PM
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17. That's not my point
My point is that Obama has craftily used the effects of the long right-wing attacks against Hillary -- and has thereby validated those attacks.

It is Obama who is creating the division by capitalizing on what he claims to oppose.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:26 PM
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18. As opposed to Hillary and The Fellowship.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:34 PM
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19. HILLARY is the reason she has high negatives.
HILLARY and her baggage are why she has high negatives. Sure some of the attacks on Hillary are unfair. But her actions beget the negatives. Like how she goes negative on Obama whenever she gets behind. And how she triangulates and double-speaks on policy. And how she takes more corporate lobbyist money than many Republicans. And how she sends out Bill to attack-dog Obama. And on and on and on. Hey, if she's nominated I'll vote for her, but half the country doesn't like her and her baggage, and she has earned much of it. Also, she wouldn't have such high negatives without the "help" of MANY Independents in those polling surveys. MANY Independents, NOT right wingers, don't like her either. At the same time, Obama's positives are DAMN GOOD and much better than Hillary's. GO OBAMA !
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:39 PM
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20. No one can deny that those years of right-wing attacks had their effect
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:44 PM by DemGa
and Obama openly uses that perception to his advantage.

The trouble is, he's now validated those attacks -- an alliance with the opposition.

Not a good trait in a leader.

Ed. And I'm talking about perceptions created in the past -- not this campaign. Obama has used these perceptions created in the past openly to his advantage.

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:21 PM
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23. Perhaps the the problem...
..is that Hillary hasn't yet figured out that she *is* the opposition to the democratic party.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:38 PM
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24. And what has Clinton done?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:32 AM
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26. There are a few people who have a problem with the Clintons. These people are disturbed.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 06:36 AM by Perry Logan
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