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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:55 AM
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Her latest attack won't peel off anymore votes.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 07:55 AM by tekisui
Source: NY Times
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In a telephone interview on Sunday, Mr. Patrick said that he and Mr. Obama first talked about the attacks from their respective rivals last summer, when Mrs. Clinton was raising questions about Mr. Obama’s experience, and that they discussed them again last week.

Both men had anticipated that Mr. Obama’s rhetorical strength would provide a point of criticism. Mr. Patrick said he told Mr. Obama that he should respond to the criticism, and he shared language from his campaign with Mr. Obama’s speechwriters.

Mr. Patrick said he did not believe Mr. Obama should give him credit.

“Who knows who I am? The point is more important than whose argument it is,” said Mr. Patrick, who telephoned The New York Times at the request of the Obama campaign. “It’s a transcendent argument.”


David Axelrod, the chief strategist for Mr. Obama who also advised Mr. Patrick, said Sunday that Mr. Obama adapted the words from Mr. Patrick. Mr. Axelrod said that he did not write the words for either candidate.

“They often riff off one another. They share a world view,” Mr. Axelrod said. “Both of them are effective speakers whose words tend to get requoted and arguments tend to be embraced widely.”

The similarities from a passage of Mr. Obama’s speech on Saturday and in remarks that Mr. Patrick delivered on Oct. 15, 2006, were highlighted by a rival campaign that did not want to be identified. Clips of both speeches are archived on the Web site YouTube.com.

In their fight for the Democratic nomination, Mrs. Clinton has sought to turn one of Mr. Obama’s attributes — his oratory — against him by warning voters that his elevated language does not necessarily mean that he will deliver on his promises. “Speeches don’t put food on the table,” she told voters last week in Ohio, arguing that she offers solutions, not just rhetoric.

As Mr. Obama responded last week, his voice rose several decibels.

“It’s true that speeches don’t solve all problems,” he said. “But what is also true if we cannot inspire the country to believe again, it doesn’t matter how many policies and plans we have.”

more at link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/us/politics/18video.html?_r=1&sq=Obama&st=nyt&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=2&adxnnlx=1203338959-Dr0PPHshUpJMYnFFBhSaHA

Hillary wishes she could inspire. Instead she throws weak punches. Why wouldn't her campaign want to be identified with this latest attack? Because, in the end, it will only hurt her. Keep swinging, Hillary, you're only wearing yourself out.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:56 AM
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1. K&R!
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:03 AM
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2. So was it during these meetings that Obama swiped Patrick's speech notes?
To save em for a rainy day?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:10 AM
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6. Who knows or cares, they could have sat around shooting the shit,
exchange ideas and phrases. They have a similar ideology. They are in agreement that the words are to their mutual benefit and each free to use them.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:04 AM
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3. Losing candidates
resort to desperate tactics. Winning candidates don't need to.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:06 AM
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4. Wrong.
It will peel off votes - everytime they pull this stuff they send votes to Obama. It's a suicidal tactic.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:06 AM
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5. How right you are.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:17 AM
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7. ..




Peace:thumbsup:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:23 AM
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8. "As Mr. Obama responded last week, his voice rose several decibels," mimicing Patrick.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 08:23 AM by MethuenProgressive
He Swiftboats the Clintons on Race, and then whines when he's caught plagiarizing.
He won't last two weeks against McCain.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:25 AM
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9. That sounds like an admission that your candidate won't make it to the General.
I agree with that.

But, he will clean McLame's clock. Have you noticed the efficiency with which he has shut down the Clinton Machine? He's not even broken a sweat.
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:27 AM
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10. You sound
as bitter as the Clinton's sound desperate...lol

Or perhaps, you're both, much like the Clintons and their campaign.

Hey, did you see Billy Boy lose his temper, yet again, yesterday? That's gonna hurt!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:47 AM
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11. Bill is one of Obama's best campaigners.
That and the Clinton dirtiness. It just makes Obama look better and better.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:33 AM
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12. Thanks for this, K&R.
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