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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:19 PM
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Please give me some good news.
I'm so depressed after hanging around here last night and listening to all the gloom-and-doom about Nader, tne media etc.

Somebody tell me some good news about this election and why we're going to beat Bush*. I have no idea what's going to happen to our country if Bush* gets four more years. My mom says it's no worse today than during the Nixon and Reagan years, but although I don't remember those days I have a hard time believing her.

If most of the country doesn't know who John Kerry is yet, he needs to run a whole bunch of uber-patriotic ads with Vietnam photos of him and a whole bunch about his fight against government corruption etc.

Please tell me why and how we're going to win this election. I'm worried sick right now.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:22 PM
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1. well i've got a new girlfriend
and I've lost weight recently...

(oh, you probably meant something else, huh?)
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KuroKensaki Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:23 PM
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2. Well, for one thing...
The artificially inflated economy is coming back down to earth no matter what they try to do. People are realizing that Bush has no idea how to fix our economy. More and more people are turning against the war in Iraq and that tide will continue. Bush's numbers are falling. On top of that, he's REALLY pissing off traditional conservatives with his deficit, his war, and even his attacks on free speech and due process (I'm not kidding, I've talked to some of these conservatives!). There may be a right-wing third party candidate who will get a significant portion of Bush's vote.
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KuroKensaki Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:24 PM
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3. Oh, and..
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:24 PM
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5. Damn!
you beat me to it!

:P
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:24 PM
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4. I'm getting a reduced rate from Geico!
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 12:25 PM by rock
(Too obvious?)

ON edit: just beat out by KuroKensaki
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:28 PM
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6. it's amazing what one poll will do to people
Forget the fact that three polls less than a week ago(CNN,WP,ARG) polls had Kerry up 7-9 points. You get one poll that shows something different and people go nuts. When the next poll comes out that shows Kerry ahead you will cheer up. Oh look Rasmussen has Kerry up 47-45. Cheer up. There is a poll for everyone if you look hard enough. Take comfort though all of the polls are consistent when it comes to Bush's record on the economy.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/index.htm
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:29 PM
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7. I admit
that yesterday the news seemed a tiny bit worrisome, but in fact there is only one poll that painted such a picture, and it seems the weighting they used is very questionable.

I would say focus on the fact that Bush screws something up every damn week. The economy, the medicare bill fiasco, Iraq, Spain, the 9/11 commission, the ads using 9/11 images. The shit is piling up.

Be proud of our candidate John Kerry, and project that to people around you. And realize that Nader on his best day ain't gonna get 7%, not even 3%, with the current mood in the US.

I am a little anxious about the VP selection but I trust Kerry will make a great choice and we will go on to victory.
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:33 PM
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8. The good news is...
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 12:34 PM by demwing
that the bad news only affects you to the degree that you let it.

Now, before you write this off as feel good bullshit, consider it for a moment.

Nothing changes an attitude around like getting involved, and getting others involved as well.

I'm starting up my own 527, with sights on a PAC, the goal being to run the type of ads that you described.

This is what I learned from the Dean campaign. Don't wait for a politician to come along and solve the problems, it can't happen that way. Get off the couch and do something yourself.

After all, the reason the bad news saps your energy is because it makes you feel hopeless and helpless, right?

Here's to all the help you can give, and all the hope you can offer!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:40 PM
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9. OK
Bush has a lot of money, yes, and has the media in his pocket, yes.

But as the last couple of weeks of Bush campaigning has shown, money does not equal brains. The screwed the pooch on the 9/11 commercials...

...and the Kerry campaign helped them. They debut the commercials, and Kerry rolls out the head of the largest firefighter's union in America to kick Bush squarely in the groin.

Did you hear about last week? Read this:

===

President Bush was feeling back in the game as Air Force One headed to Cleveland last week. Just that morning, aides had put the final polish on a new speech, in which Bush would make his first full run at what his team calls the economic-isolationist policies of John Kerry. After months of being pounded by the Democratic candidates, "the President was really fired up," says Representative Steven LaTourette of Ohio, who joined Bush for a private pizza lunch in his airborne office.

Once considered solidly Republican, Ohio is now up for grabs in the presidential election, thanks to its having lost more than 250,000 jobs in the past three years. But Bush had dived into his internal Ohio polls, and he reassured LaTourette that the water was fine. "My numbers are great," Bush told the Congressman. "I'm going to connect with those people. I do care about them and their situation." To top it all off, Bush had a surprise in store. That afternoon he would finally nominate someone to fill the new job of manufacturing czar, which he had announced in another Ohio speech six months before.

What the President didn't know was that at that moment, Kerry's campaign was planning a surprise of its own. Tipped off by Democrats on Capitol Hill that the appointment was in the works, Kerry's staff had quickly done a LexisNexis search on the proposed nominee, Anthony Raimondo, and discovered that the Nebraska manufacturing executive laid off 75 U.S. workers in 2002 while building a $3 million factory in Beijing. That might make it awkward for him to champion keeping jobs at home.

Two hours before the Commerce Department was scheduled to announce Raimondo's nomination last week, the Kerry campaign did it for them. A day later, Raimondo had withdrawn his name from consideration, and Team Kerry was chortling about how difficult it had been for the White House to create even one new job. Sighed an Administration official: "It's clear these guys are pros and they know what they are doing."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/15/campaign.tm/

===

That is some of the best political knifework I've seen since Carville and Stephanopolous in 1992.

Money does not equal brains. Stout hearts make all the difference.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:52 PM
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11. Is it just me...
or is this just pitiful?

"Administration sources tell TIME that employees at the Department of Homeland Security have been asked to keep their eyes open for opportunities to pose the President in settings that might highlight the Administration's efforts to make the nation safer. The goal, they are being told, is to provide Bush with one homeland-security photo-op a month."

:eyes:

I want my goddamn tax dollars back.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:40 PM
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10. Well...
If you saw the McLaughlin Group (I know, I know...) on Sunday, then
you'd already know that McLaughlin analyzed the election on an electoral-college basis and came out with the prediction that Kerry will win!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:55 PM
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12. Did he really?
I like his show. Not so much of that cross-chatter. What was to total and how did he arrive at it?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 12:59 PM
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13. he broke it down a couple of ways
Solid Kerry
Solid Bush
Leaning Kerry
Leaning Bush

Based on the numbers there are good indications that Kerry has enough electoral votes to win.

Although they called Maine for Bush, so I'm not sure how accurate his system was.
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