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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:02 PM Original message |
Obama's PRO-WAR RECORD |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ouch. eom |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Hillary about Kosovo: "I urged him to bomb." |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
77. So, what would Obama have done about Kosovo? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM Original message |
Ya, but before he was a Senator, he was against it. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yup. The biggest fairy tale ever |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
106. * then he did not know what he would do |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. * then he was against it |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. * then he funded it |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. * then decided to run for pres--now really really against it |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. * then many DU and media base evidence on a NON-existantant "vote" |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. stack those up against a list of Hillary's votes on the same thing, and you'd have a good post |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You mean showing that they are essentially, identical? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I mean showing whatever they show |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Did Hillary campaign for warmonger Lieberman? BO did. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. yup Obama supported Lieberman |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
94. "Lamont Gets Help From Obama" |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
76. who do you think mentored bomba? |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:07 PM Original message |
Why don't we be fair and put Hillary's votes up on these same bills? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'd venture to say that they are almost,if not actually, identical. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
72. They are identical on the war. That is the point! |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
96. No they are not. |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thank you. Finally someone talks about *his actual record.* |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. IF Obama is so pro-war: |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. As an attempt to thwart Edwards. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Obama Wasn't In The U.S. Senate When Hillary Was. So |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. But he was looking at running for the U.S. Senate. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. "Looking At Running" Isn't Quite The Same as Being A U.S. Senator Though |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. that's just being picky |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Risky For Hillary Maybe, But Not Obama (nt) |
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Justice Is Comin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
86. Oh please |
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Mags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
114. These Obama people can't handle the truth. You all should |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. Then why hasn't Kucinich endorsed Obama? nt |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. WOW...good point! |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
124. But when Russ Feingold votes for you and Ned Lamont endorses you, it's |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'll be, he does have a record. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. And a pretty nasty one, at that. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. BOOKmarked |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:13 PM Original message |
Obama did propose a troop withdrawal bill, which he sent to his own committee and was never voted on... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. ahh gotta love them vanity bills |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. its always bothered me how he uses a NON-existant "vote" by him to advance |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
73. it is very disingenuous of him....... |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. And you point is? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. He was against something he subsequently supported? |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Could you be anymore dishonest? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. when asked in the debates he said he is will to nuke Iran "all options are on the table"...... |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. What does that have to do with my 1 simple point |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Obama supporters say he's the "anti-war" candidate |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
87. but why is the OP trying to run on the fact that Obama is just as bad as Clinton? |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. Did you fdorget to post Hillary's pro war record? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. can't you read.?..this thread is about "Obama's pro-war record" |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
118. Only Obama bashers welcome. |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. I don't think they "fdorget", but Obama supporters say HE is the "anti-war candidate" nt |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
78. HRC isn't on an anti-war platform like Obama is, is she? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. I am convinced!!! Russ Feingold for President!!!! |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. Thanks for posting |
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Middle finga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Out of three candidates he's the least hawkish so.... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. how so he has said he would nuke Iran |
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Middle finga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You must be confusing him with your candidates Clinton and McCain |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. “all options are on the table” .....Barack Obama |
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itcfish (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank You |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. amen |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
88. way past time--Thank you. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
30. And peace is war, up is down, and black is white. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. kick for rndmprsn |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. k & r |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
37. Yup. For someone who knew the war was "stupid" - there's no excuse. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. thank you |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
121. I will keep reminding them of it |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
40. K/R |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
43. A KICK FOR Leopolds Ghost |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. ZMEG IS A KLINTOON SHILL RAG!!1!!!11!!!!! |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. ROFL |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
111. Rovian tactic KILL THE MESSENGER |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. Thank you! |
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poomie123 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. ¡Qué mensaje bueno! |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Muchas gracias |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R - bookmarked... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. wow- he's worse than I remembered |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
52. Wow look at the 7 people that keep kicking this thread - ITS NOT GOING TO STICK.. GET OVER IT. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Strange |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Thank you for that kick! |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Just consider it lots of ammo for McCain. What still living in La La Land? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. just posting the facts trying to open some eyes about St Obama before it's too late for us |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. St Obama with the "Yes we can" Unreality. See link |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Thanks, n00b! nt |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
81. It won't stick...McCain's going to nail it to his forehead |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
83. oh it'll stick along with the TONS of other shit the swiftboaters have stored up for him |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
55. Lots of ammo for McCain |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. that's what the rethugs want Obama ...cuz sadly they know he is the easiest to defeat in the GE |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Sure this country is somewhere in the middle not the far left or far right |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. We have two choices... neither are peaceniks |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. true that.!............. but many here don't get it and only blame Hillary |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. yup,,, |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. a dream ticket it would be...sigh.....hey how's things in Newburgh and the baby must be getting big |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. there is another one, Louise - age 3 months |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. aww a little girl this time....I am so happy for all of you..Congatulations |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Which is why making your decision based solely on the IWR vote is RIDICULOUS |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. agreed and sadly I do so |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. Oh my God...what a list! I'm going to bookmark that and send it to lots of "friends" |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
75. His record is nearly as bad as Hillary's, that's for damn sure |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. I don't know about the mc cain thing being thrown in with them tho |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
82. Kick |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
84. another kick for the left coasties |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
85. Good work! REC |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
89. Voting to support the troops and veterans in harm's way that Hillary helped happen... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. take off your magic Obama glasses and read it with your own eyes |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
92. a self kick for truth |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Oh, a self-kicker. You're so noble! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. Take 30 seconds and you'll have no problem finding Clintons' PROBUSH RECORD. |
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Ivote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Here It Is In Black & White |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
98. If Obama was truly anti war then based on the simple fact that |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Good question? Defunding the war would end it, as the budget |
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Riley133 (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
99. And he will not hesitate to use a preemptive strike if the US is threatened. Thanks for posting. nt |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
100. Doh!! |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
101. kick |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
103. 1 million dead Iraqis. Next. nt |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
104. Frightening n/t |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
112. An anti-war candidate can vote for funding in good conscience. As for the nominations... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
113. thanks for the list. that's pretty brutal. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
115. Unfortunately, as a Hillary supporter, you people have no legs to stand on when it comes to this. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Hillary isn't running as the anti-war candidate |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Doesn't matter. Hillary supporters can't complain. She's as pro-war as he is. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Hillary isn't running on an anti-war platform |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. I think Obama fans are plenty well informed. I think they don't care. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Obama supporters don't know |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. then why is Obama trying to decieve so many into believing that he is the anti-war candidate? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. I don't know...ask him. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Russ Feingold and Ned Lamont are so gullible! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
126. IWR, IWR, IWR, IWR, IWR, IWR, IWR. Kyle/Lieberman, Kyle/Lieberman, Kyle/Lieberman, Kyle/Lieberman |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
127. He is not, and never has been, the "anti-war" candidate. |
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