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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:33 PM
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It's much worse than you thought, Patrick "plagiarized" his speech too
It's much worse than you thought, Patrick "plagiarized" his speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaOkxbM9dY

Just listen. He stole quotes from Jefferson, Kennedy and MLK without attribution!
Horrors!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:36 PM
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1. Throw them ALL in the Hague
:sarcasm:

This is so goddamn stupid. Clinton, once again, makes a fatal mistake with this poo pile.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:40 PM
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3. One of the most mis-managed well-funded campaign.
They are just horribly out of touch and see the end coming.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:40 PM
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4. the poo pile
did in biden's campaign for potus

plagiarism was/is a big issue
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:44 PM
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10. Bullshit. the lack of MEDIA coverage did Biden in
Don't play that game with me.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:00 PM
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33. biden plagiarized his campaign speech
the media did his campaign in

don't you remember anything?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:44 PM
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11. Good point! I forgot about that.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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20. Ask Biden how "goddamn stupid." this is
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:48 PM
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23. I don't waste time with those who hide profiles, BYE NOW!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:59 PM
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32.  I'm the Queen of England. Shall I put in a profile for you?
Goes to show how dense and silly BO Sniffers can be.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:39 PM
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2. Wow....I can smell the flopsweat from HERE!
:rofl:

Barack's biggest sin was that he didn't deliver the speech HALF as well as Deval did!! THAT's the real crime!

It's not plagiarism when you steal it from a buddy!

Here, let's watch!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cd-AJeJvBE&NR=1
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:45 PM
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12. Should I be ignoring you?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:56 PM
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30. You have free will. Far be it from me to tell you what you need to do to stay in the
"contented zone."
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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18. Have you tried Febreze?
That works on my computer chair.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:55 PM
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29. Ah, you have experience, then! nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:41 PM
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5. Even worse.. they've sent out Stephanie Tubbs-Jones to push the meme. This is the
one who was seen on camera laughing at Obama during the Hillary v Obama debate. She was absolutely nasty and bitter until Nora cut her off to go to another presser. No doubt, this will continue, and the night prior to Wisconsin.. Obama will win by a LANDSLIDE tomorrow.

They may be trolling for Ohio, but that dawg won't hunt there either.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:42 PM
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6. She's baaaaack....
On now.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:44 PM
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9. oh lord... she's HORRIBLE.. this is NOT helping Hillary. Is this person a SITTING Congresscritter??
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:45 PM
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14. A wee bit defensive she sounds...
And she won't let Nora get a word in edgewise.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:46 PM
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17. Nora's getting some points in, and this Tubbs is a very, very nasty woman.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:46 PM
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15. Yep, from Cleveland I believe
this is ridiculous. Surprisingly Nora is going after Ms. Tubbs.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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21. Tubbs: "If we hadn't BROUGHT this to you, it never would have been discussed." Wow. They're PROUD
of this. They're actually going to try to push it. They just nailed the coffin shut on Hillary.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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19. Oh dear. Another former DU hero...under bus for not getting on the bandwagon.
WAKE UP
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:48 PM
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24. Tubbs?? A hero? This is obviously a spiteful, partisan and bitter person. What will
she do when Barack gets the nomination.. quit?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:52 PM
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26. She made her choice, and she's pushing the meme
Shame on Tubbs-Jones.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:42 PM
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7. I hope that after this fiasco nobody will ever say "he has just words, no solutions". nt
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elixir2 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:44 PM
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8. It has legs.. CNN just had coverage of BO plagiarism problem w/ Gergen
I love David Gergen.
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Yurem2008 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:45 PM
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13. Gergen is not very impressed
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:46 PM
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Gergen, another Republican hack hired by the Clinton's. n/t
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:46 PM
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16. Here is the fun way to counter all these arguments
do a google search on things like:

"ready on day one" -clinton -hillary

use any phrase, any candidate.


You'll find that about every phrase ever uttered by a politician has been used before. -- exept maybe Bush, because he speaks in jibberish.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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22. Oh, but that doesn't count because the QUEEN thought of it first.
:eyes:
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:51 PM
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25. This is a living in glass houses moment for all politicians.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 03:52 PM by andym
I imagine that almost every politician in the country wishes this story will vanish before someone casts stones at them.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:53 PM
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27. Yeah, really
:eyes:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:54 PM
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28. I used the word "hope" in a column I wrote 10 years ago -- Those f*ckers plagiarized from me!
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:57 PM
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31. Must. Kill. Hope.
I'm really starting to shake my head at this Clinton campaign. I can respect a well run campaign, but I'm just starting to feel dirty now.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:03 PM
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34. dirty?
it's dirty to plagiarize

it's conning the audience, misleading them into thinking the brilliant ideas and words are your own, when they're really not

biden's campaign for potus ended when his speech plagiarism was discovered

he was persecuted in the media
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:17 PM
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36. I'm sorry for Biden's loss.
It's a speech. It's not plagiarism. I'm not sure how mislead the audience might be. I don't think people are looking for the invention of new phrases as much as they are the projection of the ideas. Now, if Hillary can project an original idea or thought besides flinging mud via Penn, then we'll talk.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:28 PM
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37. twist definitions
all you wish

as it suits you, but it doesn't make it any less plagiarism
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:30 PM
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38. this will go nowhere
Regardless the definition, this will go no where, and you'll need to move on to something else come tomorrow. Good luck.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:11 PM
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35. It's strange how some words have enough staying-power to be used again and again
Some words have enough staying-power to be used again and again. Why? Because they inspire and their meaning transcends their time. They echo the best intentions of the past and thus point the way toward a better future.
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