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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:59 PM
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I finally figured out the 'Obama Change' thing....
Obama wants 'change' .......Yes he does........he wants to change the primary rules.

Now someone tell me ........should the Superdelegates under the Obama Change represent the popular vote of registered Democrats? Or the popular vote of those voting in the primary? Inquiring minds want to know.

And while we are on the subject.......why should the states which will be impossible for a Democrat to win in November take precedence over states that are swings states or considered Democratic locks to assure a Democratic GE win? The superdelegates were set up precisely to avoid problems like this........but now Obama want 'change' and he wants it for himself.

Obama has won some states........yes he has........but MOST of those states he would not win if he was the nominee in November. No he won't.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:04 PM
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1. You've figured it out...Yes you have....
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:06 PM
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2. Ive asked this of EVERY Hillarite thats made this claim....
And NO ONE has given me a link. Which is quite remarkable considering how many times this subject has been posted on.

PLEASE post me a like that shows Obama requesting that the DNC change the rules re: super delegates.
HERE is the link showing Hillary asking the DNC to change the rules: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5492
PLEASE provide a link that backs up your argument.

And give me a fucking break. Just about every poll showing a dem / McCain match-up shows Obama doing WAY better. He's won "some states" ??? Yeah. Twice as many as Hillary. And You Dont Know how they'll vote in November.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:16 PM
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9. Still waiting for that link! nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:23 PM
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11. Here is one, if I had more time I would be happy to find more for you.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:35 PM
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12. Thats Obamas opinion. Not him trying to change the "rules"
An opinion is not requesting the rules be changed.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:06 PM
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3. They should
vote the way they feel like they should vote.

Additionally, MI and FL should not be seated.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:13 PM
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6. edit: replied to wrong post. nt
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 04:14 PM by bunnies
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:09 PM
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4. Three points, none of which are likely to be addressed.
1. MO, CO, VA, MN, IA are all swing states.
2. Obama has not asked for the superdelegate rules to be changed.
3. Clinton is currently attempting to change the rules in regards to the seating of MI and FL delegates.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:11 PM
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5. We will know soon enough what's what.
I find that this silliness -- Voters are voters, period. Each vote is equal. I've noted that thus far, the Clintons don't believe that One Man/Woman-One Vote carry equal weight. I've heard that campaign discount the Black vote, attach importance to the Hispanic Vote, etc....

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:14 PM
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7. there is no "superdelegate rule" to change -- doh!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:14 PM
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8. I find this an ironic argument.
"but MOST of those states he would not win if he was the nominee in November. No he won't."

Clinton's only hope is to win Texas. Do you think she'll win Texas?

Please respond.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:18 PM
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10. Were you reading my mind? I was just researching this very topic.
Superdelegates vote for whomever they want, regardless of the primaries.

Obama IS changing the rules.

Don't like it???? Then complain to the McGovern-Fraser Commission - not me!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
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