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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:32 AM
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"Tony Rezko was Obama's first significant political contributor"
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6NlQI_2Fc&feature=related>

We can all "hope" to hook with a "godfather" some day. :sarcasm:
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:33 AM
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1. It's pretty sad to see lengths the Hillbots have sunk to
I guess this is what a campaign in desperation looks like.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:37 AM
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2. Even Obama said it looks bad.
I guess if Obama wins, Rezko gets the Lincoln bedroom.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:39 AM
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3. The Obamamaniacs will go crazy over this
And the MSM will have a witch hunt when the open hearings of Rezko on MSM start in a week. Sources say Rezko will talk for leniency. Will be interesting when he fingers CERTAIN political people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:44 AM
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:47 AM
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5. Thank You Such A Compliment
Just trying to keep up with the Obamamaniacs that flame Hillary.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:48 AM
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6. What is frightening is they don't CARE. They just don't CARE that Obama lied to ABC about the
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 AM by saracat
donations from a person under federal investigation. They just don't care that Obama had to be pressured to return more than 100k in donations to his presidential campaign some of which was traced back to Resko's wife as well as other Resko associates. They just don't CARE that Obama was friends for 12 years with a crime figure and still asked him for real estate advice, while he was under federal investigation. It doesn't bother them that a crime figure made Obama's house buy possible by purchasing the adjoining lot because the sellers wanted the lot and the house to close on the same day and Obama couldn't afford the lot.They just don't CARE.. Nothing Obama does matters. It doesn't bother them that Resko's bail was revoked because he lied to the judge and tried to skip town with 3.5 mill wired from Damascus.This was Obamas friend. Either Obama is an idiot, and never noticed his friend was front page news, or he is a really poor judge of character, or he too, knew, and didn't CARE. What a lovely set of credentials for the next President!.They call all this RW talking points even though Obama has admitted it. I suppose they will excuse him if he is indited.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:52 AM
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7. Please quote the lies, with links.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:56 AM
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9. The links to the facts she spoke of have been posted here numerous times
As she said, Obamites just don't care and ignore it. The trial is starting soon. America will care.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:02 AM
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11. Obama told Stephanopulous on ABC that he took no money from Resko for the presidential campaign.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:42 AM
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31. He didn't take any money for his presidential campaign. nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:57 PM
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75. But he did 100K worth.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:14 AM
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18. Hre is one link .there are others.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:48 PM
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74. Clinton returned money from an unethical contributor, too.
So has Obama. The last returns were from donations in which it was not clear that Rezko was involved - i.e. associates. I have seen all of those links.

It it not the first time candidates have returned money, and will not be the last.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:32 PM
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76. Some of the donations were from Resko's "wife". How was that "unclear"
Like the land buy was also in Resko's "wife's" name. Please.
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ObamaFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:54 AM
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8. Tell the Hillster to release her tax returns...before mention Rezko ever again..
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:03 AM
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13. Okay
Maybe she'll release her tax returns when Obama stops lying about and releases his state legislative files. Because they surely have parts of the Rezko story and more in there. Tit for tat?
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ObamaFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:16 AM
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20. Tit for Tit...
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:05 AM
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22. Congratulations!
You have been awarded your first "ignore." I'm sure it won't be your last. Other Obama fans will not welcome the juvenile, snarky likes of you reflecting upon them. Enjoy your stay.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:56 AM
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10. saracat what I don't understand is why none of it is ever mentioned on MSM
Whether there is any money laundering or whatever, just the fact he is an associate of Obama's isn't ever mentioned on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox. I can't figure out why they don't even give it at least a 30 second soundbite. They usually love this kind of stuff.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:39 PM
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78. NBC and ABc both did stories on it but they are holding real fire till he is nominated.
It is much more effective then.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:05 AM
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14. Hillary is no victim
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:32 AM
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40. seems like they knew in 2006
://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article
Obama on Rezko deal: It was a mistake

November 5, 2006

BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND CHRIS FUSCO Staff Reporters Contributing: Mark Brown

Q: Senator, when did you first meet Tony Rezko? How did you become friends? How often would you meet with him, and when did you last speak with him?

A: I had attracted some media attention when I was elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. And while I was in law school, David Brint, who was a development partner with Tony Rezko contacted me and asked whether I would be interested in being a developer. Ultimately, after discussions in which I met Mr. Rezko, I said no.

I have probably had lunch with Rezko once or twice a year and our spouses may have gotten together on two to four occasions in the time that I have known him. I last spoke with Tony Rezko more than six months ago.

Q:. Have you or your wife participated in any other transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns? Have you or your wife ever done any legal work ever for Rezko or his companies?

A: No.

Q: Has Rezko ever given you or your family members gifts of any kind and, if so, what were they?

A: No.

Q: The seller of your house appears to be a doctor at the University of Chicago . Do you or your wife know him? If so, did either of you ever talk to him about subdividing the property? If you ever did discuss the property with him, when were those conversations?

A: We did not know him personally, though my wife worked in the same University hospital. The property was subdivided and two lots were separately listed when we first learned of it. We did not discuss the property with the owners; the sale was negotiated for us by our agent.

Q: Did you approach Rezko or his wife about the property, or did they approach you?

A: To the best of my recollection, I told him about the property, and he developed an interest, knowing both the location and, as I recall, the developer who had previously purchased it.

Q: Who was your Realtor? Did this Realtor also represent Rita Rezko?

A: Miriam Zeltzerman, who had also represented me in the purchase of my prior property, a condominium, in Hyde Park. She did not represent Rita Rezko.

Q: How do you explain the fact your family purchased your home the same day as Rita Rezko bought the property adjacent to yours? Was this a coordinated purchase?

A: The sellers required the closing of both properties at the same time. As they were moving out of town, they wished to conclude the sale of both properties simultaneously. The lot was purchased first; with the purchase of the house on the adjacent lot, the closings could proceed and did, on the same day, pursuant to the condition set by the sellers.

Q: Why is it that you were able to buy your parcel for $300,000 less than the asking price, and Rita Rezko paid full price? Who negotiated this end of the deal? Did whoever negotiated it have any contact with Rita and Tony Rezko or their Realtor or lawyer?

A: Our agent negotiated only with the seller's agent. As we understood it, the house had been listed for some time, for months, and our offer was one of two and, as we understood it, it was the best offer. The original listed price was too high for the market at the time, and we understood that the sellers, who were anxious to move, were prepared to sell the house for what they paid for it, which is what they did.

We were not involved in the Rezko negotiation of the price for the adjacent lot. It was our understanding that the owners had received, from another buyer, an offer for $625,000 and that therefore the Rezkos could not have offered or purchased that lot for less.

Q: Why did you put the property in a trust?

A: I was advised that a trust holding would afford me some privacy, which was important to me as I would be commuting from Washington to Chicago and my family would spend some part of most weeks without me.

Q: A Nov. 21, 1999, Chicago Tribune story indicates the house you bought "sits on a quarter-acre lot and will share a driveway and entrance gate with a home next door that has not yet been built." Is this shared driveway still in the mix? Will this require further negotiations with the Rezkos?

A: The driveway is not shared with the adjacent owner. But the resident in the carriage house in the back does have an easement over it.

Q: Does it display a lack of judgment on your part to be engaging in real estate deals with Tony Rezko at a point his connections to state government had been reported to be under federal investigation?

A: I've always held myself to the highest ethical standards. During the ten years I have been in public office, I believe I have met those standards and I know that is what people expect of me. I have also understood the importance of appearances.

With respect to the purchase of my home, I am confident that everything was handled ethically and above board.

But I regret that while I tried to pay close attention to the specific requirements of ethical conduct, I misgauged the appearance presented by my purchase of the additional land from Mr. Rezko. It was simply not good enough that I paid above the appraised value for the strip of land that he sold me. It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else, to believe that he had done me a favor. For that reason, I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it.

Throughout my life, I have put faith in confronting experiences honestly and learning from them. And that is what I will do with this experience as well.

Q: Why did you not publicly disclose the transaction after Rezko got indicted?

A: At the time, it didn't strike me as relevant. I did however donate campaign contributions from Rezko to charity.

Q: Have you been interviewed by federal investigators about this transaction or about your relationship with Rezko? If not, do you intend to approach them?

A: I have not been interviewed by federal investigators. I have no reason to approach them.

Q: Did Rezko or his companies ever solicit your support on any matter involving state or federal government? Did Al Johnson, who was trying to get a casino license along with Tony Rezko, or Rezko himself ever discuss casino matters with you?

A: No, I have never been asked to do anything to advance his business interests. In 1999, when I was a State Senator, I opposed legislation to bring a casino to Rosemont and allow casino gambling at docked riverboats which news reports said Al Johnson and Tony Rezko were interested in being part of. I never discussed a casino license with either of them. I was a vocal opponent of the legislation. (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls91/pdf/910SB1017_05251999_001000C.PDF)

Q: Has this disclosure about your relationship with Rezko changed your thoughts about a White House run?

A: No. As I have said, how I can best serve is something I will think about after the 2006 election next Tuesday.

Q: Did Rezko ever discuss with you his dealings with Stuart Levine, Christopher Kelly or William Cellini or the role he was playing in shaping Gov. Blagojevich's administration?

A: No.

Q: Are the Obamas the only beneficiaries of the land trust?

A: Yes.

Q: Are you aware of any efforts by previous owners to develop what is now the Rezko lot, possibly as townhomes?

A: I was not aware of any prior effort by the seller to develop the property, but always understood the other lot was to be developed upon sale.

Q: Did Rezko have an appraisal performed for the 10-foot strip?

A: I had an appraisal conducted by Howard B. Richter & Associates on November 21, 2005.

Q: Was there a negotiation? Did he have an asking price, or did he just say, whatever you think is fair?

A: I proposed to pay on the basis of proportionality. Since the strip composed one-sixth of the entire lot, I would pay one-sixth of the purchase price of the lot. I offered this to Mr. Rezko and he accepted it.

Q: How many fundraisers has Mr. Rezko hosted for you? Were these all in his home? How much would you estimate he has raised for your campaigns?

A: He hosted one event at his home in 2003 for my U.S. Senate campaign. He participated as a member of a host committee for several other events. My best estimate was that he raised somewhere between $50,000 and $60,000.




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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:40 AM
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43. something?
In defense of the locals

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008

* We’ve been hearing for weeks from the national punditry that Barack Obama hasn’t been fully vetted by the media. I think that’s mostly wrong, and I angrily told that to a national reporter who called me last week.
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At the Tribune’s request, Cook County Circuit Court Chief Judge Timothy Evans produced a list of all 260 civil and criminal cases in which the firm filed appearances, and the Tribune separately examined 1990s lawsuits that Rezmar Corp. listed in applications for government grants. The paper also examined files from the Illinois Housing Development Authority and the city housing department, as well as the hundreds of clients Obama listed in the unusually frank ethics disclosure reports he filed as a state senator from December 1995 through April 2004.

The scouring turned out mostly to be a dud. Still, it was a heckuva lot of work.

* That doesn’t include all the other stuff the Tribune has done, like this…

The Tribune analyzed 119 grants in which Obama steered more than $6 million for Chicago projects between late 1999 and late 2002, the heart of his Statehouse career and the center of a state government frenzy in which Obama said the pork-barrel process was “wide open.”

* The Trib has also filed dozens of Freedom of Information Act requests on Obama, sources say, and they combed through Obama’s list of nearly 100 interns to find one connected to Rezko. And, of course, it was the Tribune which figured out that Rezko had bought the lot next door to Obama’s house.

* The Sun-Times has been doing a lot of work, too, like this piece which tracked down a bunch of people who attended a long-ago Obama fundraiser hosted by Rezko.

* The CS-T also dug into something I wouldn’t even dream of doing…

A Sun-Times review of student evaluations from Obama’s 10 years of teaching part-time at the University of Chicago Law School shows that students almost always rated Obama as one of their top instructors — except for one quarter in 1997.

That’s pretty deep, if you ask me.

PLEASE Read more:


- posted by Rich Miller
http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2008/01/23/in-defense-of-the-locals/
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:07 AM
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17. sshhhhhhh--can't say nothing bad about their SAVIOR.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:20 AM
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24. Hillbots are desperately hoping there's some there there
but you're bound for disappointment, I'm afraid. Yet again. Oh well, more sour grapes for you all to feast upon.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:32 AM
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28. theirs was just a casual relationship, between a politician and a crook.
from April 23, 2007: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article


Obama has been friends with Rezko for 17 years. Rezko has been a political patron to Obama and many others, helping to raise millions of dollars for them through his own contributions and by hosting fund-raisers in his home.

{snip}

Rezko was among the people Obama appointed to serve on his U.S. Senate campaign finance committee, the Sun-Times reported in 2003. The committee raised more than $14 million, according to Federal Election Commission records, helping send Obama to Washington in 2004.

As a U.S. senator, Obama grew closer to Rezko.

Two years ago, Obama bought a mansion on the South Side, in the Kenwood neighborhood, from a doctor. On the same day, Rezko's wife, Rita Rezko, bought the vacant lot next door from the same seller. The doctor had listed the properties for sale together. He sold the house to Obama for $300,000 below the asking price. The doctor got his asking price on the lot from Rezko's wife.

Last year, Rita Rezko sold a strip of that vacant lot to Obama for $104,500 -- a deal Obama later apologized for, acknowledging that people might think he got a favor from Rezko. Obama called the episode "boneheaded'' and a "mistake.''

At the time Obama bought that strip of land, it had been reported that Rezko was under federal investigation for influence-peddling involving the administration of Blagojevich, whose campaign also received Rezko's financial support.

Rezko has since been indicted for allegedly demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under Blagojevich.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:40 AM
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30. This just isn't sticking and
considering the endless list of shady Clinton connections from Rich to Hsu to Paul to Gupta to Giustra, etc, it's always interesting to see the cognitive dissonance of Hill supporters when it comes to Rezco.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:06 AM
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34. The hypocricy though is startling. You say it hasn't stuck, like you're proud of the relationship
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 AM by bigtree
There's never a real defense of this relationship from the Obama supporters who regularly wail over the 'corruption' of the Clintons. And, they, too, wonder why the charges don't catch fire. I think it's because folks are smart enough to recognize that Barack Obama has the same tendencies to use money from questionable interests as the Clintons. He's just been at it for less time. If he mimics the pattern of this relationship with Rezko when, and if, he obtains the power of the presidency . . .

Right now, to judge that future, all we have is this false image of a squeaky-clean pol against the refusal of Obama to square his new integrity stance (donations fron special interests flowed freely in his Senate campaign) with this 17 year relationship with this crook. Instead, we're getting these dribs and drabs of info from Obama (more pulled out of him the other day) which suggest he's more interested in maintaining the false image he and his supporters have created for this campaign; casting his opponent as a corrupt pol; and, hoping we all are too stupid to recognize that much of his political career has benefited from the 'business as usual' that he decries and says he's going to end.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:03 AM
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12. Click, Read Learn
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:07 AM
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15. Clinton co-chair took checks from Rezko
Clinton co-chair took checks from Rezko - Hillary Clinton News ...Feb 1, 2008 ... Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a national co-chair of Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, banked at least $7500 in political ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22947679/
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:15 AM
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19. Not $100k worth as did Obama.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:07 AM
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16. Doesn't seem to have any legs
Sure hasn't stopped Obama so far.
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ObamaFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:18 AM
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21. What does have legs is Hillary ripping off her poor donors...wow..who knew..
They are paying back her loan with their donations..

That's sad..I'd ask for my money back..
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:13 AM
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23. Sure will have legs when the Republicans start going after Saint Obama
Before it's over it will be the Obama/Rezko ticket.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:22 AM
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25. are you an oracle? LOL!
No you are not. Just another self-important DUer who actually thinks he can see into the future. Clue for you: 99% of the time all you faux oracles are wrong.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:30 AM
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27. Trial date is Mar 3 ... we'll hear a lot more then /nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:54 PM
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79. And yet, Obama will not be the one on trial
Nor has he been indicted for any wrongdoing. Until he has, this is going to go nowhere. Certainly hasn't stopped him yet.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:27 AM
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26. The Clintons have had their own Godfathers
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:34 AM
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29. sure, but Obama's been bashing the Clinton's for their finances
He's supposed to be the integrity candidate. You can't blow the stink off of him just by airing the Clinton's dirty laundry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:35 PM
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77. Blair was still small time compared to Jackson Stephens' bankrolling of Clinton's career AND
his primary campaign in 1992.

When you have the power to BRING a bank like BCCI into this country for your pal, GHWBush, THAT is REAL power.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:53 AM
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32. "Rezko is the Jack Abramoff of Chicago Illinois politicians" close friend for 20 yrs of the Obama's
an axiom my mother always taught us "Show me who your friends are and I'll show you who you are"
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:56 AM
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33. The press has had little interest in this story
despite the Clinton Hillbots pushing it. There's no there there if the media doesn't cover it-and they aren't. Nice try but this story is not gaining traction.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:07 AM
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35. what does that tell you?....the RW Corporate media loves their man Obama!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:08 AM
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36. It's like Star Wars . . . "nothing to see here . . .this isn't the pol you're looking for"
no more Jedi mind tricks!!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:10 AM
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37. So, what is there to see? What wrongdoing is Obama accused of?
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:11 AM by Occam Bandage
If you're a Hillary supporter, you do not want to suggest there's something wrong with unknowingly taking then returning dirty money.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:15 AM
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38. the 'business as usual' that he decries and promises to end.
backdoor deals with moneyed interests. This one just happens to be standing trial in a few days.

Barack Obama had a 17-year relationship with this man, beginning with his appointment as Barack's campaign finance director. It would be nice to see those state legislature records he's been blocking.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:18 AM
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39. So, what "backdoor deal" did he give Rezko? Are you suggesting bribery? If so, what was Rezko's
gain, and why isn't Obama accused of wrongdoing in regards to this bribery?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:34 AM
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41. no. I'm referring to the work Obama did at the Davis law firm
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:36 AM by bigtree
for Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp, while he was serving as an Illinois state senator.

And, how he took donations over the years from Rezko, even though he purported to represent the concerns of the poor neighborhoods in his district.

Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

• Six buildings boarded up.

•Hundreds of the apartments vacant, in need of major repairs.

• Taxpayers stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

•At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

Yet, over the years, the donations accepted by Obama (donated to charity after the controversy surfaced) from Rezko and his family amounted to over $50,000.

The law firm which Obama worked at for nine years handling real estate claims, while they were actively representing Rezko, hasn't yet released a list of the matters Obama handled at the firm while he was a state legislator.

And, Rezko is now standing trial. There's more, but, I suspect that you recognize that, in this campaign, with his stance as an 'integrity' candidate, his 17-year relationship with this crook is going to be seen as at odds with his promise to represent a 'new' type of politics.

You don't need some big conspiracy to knock that false, campaign-generated image down. This relationship does that on it's little own.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:37 AM
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42. So, what wrongdoing is Obama accused of? The best you've provided is
"Obamaa took money from a guy who, as it turns out, was a crook." You've provided no evidence that Obama was aware of any illegalities, you've provided no evidence Obama was involved with any illegalities, and, frankly, given the depth of the investigation (dozens of the Governor's circle have been implicated) and the degree to which both Chicago papers have been pursuing any hope of an Obama-Rezko tie, the lack of any evidence of wrongdoing means there certainly was no wrongdoing.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:49 AM
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45. you're focusing on proven legalities? The hypocrisy doesn't seem to matter to you
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:49 AM by bigtree
Who knows what other deals these two were involved in together. Obama won't allow us to look at his state legislator records.

But, at the very least, his 17-year, admitted friendship with Rezko -- a corrupt slumlord, in every sense of the word, in Obama's own district, benefiting from legal representation from a law firm where Obama (at the time, a state legislator) was handling cases very much like the representation Rezko's company was getting there -- has to be seen as business as usual, at best, and, willful or gross negligence in holding Rezko accountable for his abuse of the very communities Obama purports to have cared for and defended. Looks like the opposite. Obama seems to have let Rezko's abuses pass right by his nose, despite the theme of his term as a concerned state legislator.

Then, there are those contributions he accepted from Rezko and his family over the years . . . totaled over $50,000. Business as usual.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:56 AM
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49. So your best evidence he's done anything wrong is "who knows?"
Forgive me if I'm unconvinced.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:21 AM
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50. maintaining a 17-year, close relationship with a corrupt slumlord who's now facing trial
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 11:21 AM by bigtree
Jedi mind tricks won't work here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:29 PM
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57. Bankrolled for YEARS by man who brought BCCI into this country and now you collect MILLIONS
from those who were protected for years by the deep-sixing of BCCI's outstanding matters?

Sense of PROPORTION, anyone?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:31 PM
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58. divert, distract
change the subject
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:39 PM
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60. Subject is "first political contributor" isn't it? You think Clintons BIGGEST donor is a nonissue
when you want to get us all hopped up over Rezko? Rezko should have been vetted YEARS before by Illinois Dems and pols new to Chicago probably thought he was vetted since he had been a donor for so long.

Now - you want to try and explain WHY Rezko gives YOU the vapors when Jackson Stephens and Dubai and BCCI and how it effected this nation the past decade don't even bother you one bit?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:41 PM
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61. who said he gives me vapors? They're both typical politicians. Obama's just starting out
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 12:41 PM by bigtree
. . . much like the Clintons did.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:55 PM
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62. Except Clinton was being bankrolled by a full on partner to BushInc. in DEEP doodoo
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:06 PM by blm
over BCCI and its many ILLEGAL OPERATIONS that also funded global terror networks through drugrunning, armsdealing and nuclear proliferation - that's all.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:04 PM
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65. his bank account didn't reflect that at the time. he had about half a mil in the bank, no home
the linkage of Clinton and anything Bush has done regarding 'global terror networks' belongs in the Conspiracy forum.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:10 PM
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67. BCCI was about the funding of global terrorism amongst other matters. That is NOT a theory.
And Bill is collecting NOW from Dubai. His presidential 'library' collected from Stephens. I never said he got paid off in Arkansas, did I? Why are you so anxious to pretend that Jackson Stephens was NOT accomodated in any way by Bill when BCCI matters were swept under the oval office rug to protect Stephens, GHWBush and Dubai and Saudi royals?


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:13 PM
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70. collecting from Dubai? By doing work for that one fellow? Stretch.
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:13 PM by bigtree
That's why I suspect this hasn't caught fire.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:26 PM
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73. 20 million dollars from Yucaipa who got the money FROM Dubai - the same Dubai $$
who were protected by the deep-sixing of BCCI matters throughout the 90s.

You want to pretend that Bill was naive and had no idea there was ANY connection? You do know that Bill also advocated for Dubai to GET That ports deal a couple years ago, don't you?

Maybe you weighed in with support for Bill and that deal on some of those threads back at the time? Yes or no?
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:13 PM
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69. Chicago Tribune:Judge rules Rezko's lawyers can explore Levine's drug use
A federal judge ruled Tuesday that lawyers for Antoin "Tony" Rezko can explore at trial allegations of heavy use of cocaine and other powerful drugs by Stuart Levine, the government's key witness, which is a setback for prosecutors that could have significant impact on the extortion case.

In her ruling, U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve disclosed that prosecutors, in sealed court filings, had acknowledged that Levine "consistently used drugs," including cocaine, crystal meth and Ketamine -- a so-called club drug nicknamed "Special K" -- while he allegedly schemed with Rezko.
...
In her ruling, the judge recounted how Levine's former secretary told prosecutors in 2005 that Levine used cocaine daily in his office.

Two years later, she told Rezko's lawyers that Levine had often been high when he came to work and locked himself in his office for up to three hours at a time to snort cocaine. The secretary said she often found cocaine residue and drug paraphernalia in his office.

Alleged abuse detailed
In addition, St. Eve wrote, several of Levine's social acquaintances described Levine as a heavy user of crystal meth, Ecstasy, Special K, cocaine and marijuana.

"One of them reported that Levine would take large amounts of drugs during their all-night partying sessions and would take drugs up until the moment he departed, when Levine -- at times -- would tell his social acquaintances that he had to leave for an 'important meeting,'" the judge's ruling said.

more

-------------
Rezko is definitely in the news....and there has been plenty of interest.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:41 AM
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44. ABC evening news did a segment of Rezco-Obama last week. Very inclusive
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:59 AM
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46. Obama's former fundraiser.
just a casual, 17-year relationship with a crook
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:15 AM
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47. ah the axiom:" Show me your friends and I'll show you who you are" & they were "close" friends
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 10:16 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:27 AM
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52. JACKSON STEPHENS bankrolled Bill's political career AND brought BCCI to this country
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 11:28 AM by blm
an epic illegal operation with many outstanding matters that Bill deep-sixed throughout the 90s for Poppy Bush, Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich, AQ Khan, Dubai and Saudi royals.

Matters that led directly to Bush2, 9-11 and this Iraq war.


Do we FOOL ourselves that we are good citizens when we pretend that Clinton had our best interests in mind even as he is now collecting MILLIONS from those who were protected thanks to Bill siding with THEIR secrecy and privilege in those matters?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:30 AM
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54. yup, that's the tactic. change the subject. Not on this thread.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:41 AM
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55. It's not a change - WE are s'posed to get exercised over Rezko when Stephens BOUGHT CLINTONS
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 11:42 AM by blm
outright through their Arkansas careers AND bankrolled Bill's primary campaign for president?

Bill DEEP-SIXED all those outstanding matters leading directly to Bush2, 9-11 and this Iraq war and YOU all want us to believe a local player in Chicago is somehow a danger to our nation?

Try locating your sense of proportion.

You want the continued protection of all these BushInc operators and Bill to keep lining his bank accounts by the MILLIONS from the same evil characters he PROTECTED as president. You think those millions Bill has banked from Dubai didn't end up in Hillary's campaign?

Did Rezko and his realty dealings lead to 9-11? Did GHWBush's and Stephens' BCCI dealings lead to 9-11?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:25 AM
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48. they were very clear this had been a long term relationship
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:23 AM
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51. He was every Democrat's contributer in Illinois
Don't let the details get in the way or anything.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:30 AM
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53. but, Obama is presenting himself as a 'different kind' of politician
claims to be ushering in a "new way" of doing politics in Washington.

blogslut says Obama's just like all the rest.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:42 AM
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56. Yes, he is ushering in a new way.
The people's way. $36 millions dollars in January. 90% of it from individual donors. 40% in donations of $25.00 or less. He doesn't have to dance at fundraisers anymore. The masses are his base.

I hope that bitterness will end when he is our nominee. We will welcome you.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:34 PM
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59. not bitter, just not impressed by his holier than thou stance on financing
or convinced he's any different, now, with regard to his finances or financial relationships than he was in his Senate campaign.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:02 PM
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64. Yes - maybe Obama will NOT deep-six serious investigations of global terror networks and those
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:03 PM by blm
involved in illegal operations like BCCI, the way the last Dem president did.

Why do you BELIEVE Obama will somehow REPEAT what Clinton did throughout the 90s and use his office to protect BushInc and his powerful cronies like Jackson Stephens and Dubai and Saudi royals and Marc Rich?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:06 PM
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66. He's only just begun. He's been less than discriminating about his funding sources in the past.
All we have is his word.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:11 PM
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68. And what do we HAVE from Clintons? A NEED To continue to protect BushInc.
That's a pretty damn sad way to have to start out the next decade, isn't it?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:14 PM
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71. who? Hillary needing that? I doubt it. Never seen a woman president in action . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:21 PM
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72. She needs to protect Bill's legacy, too, now. The legacy they SHARE. BTW - you do know Stephens
was Rose Law Firm's biggest client, right? What Bill knew, Hillary knew.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 PM
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63. And while Hillary Clinton was chanting to pagan gods and hanging crack pipes on the WH Xmas Tree
:eyes: :sarcasm:


...she was making sure that her underlings took notes, so that the slimy bullshit tactics which were being used against her and her husband could be emulated by her devotees one day.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:57 PM
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80. The trial starts in 4 days -
:popcorn:

We shall see what comes out of this.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:25 PM
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81. the replay from the debate and Obama saying "NO, NO, NO"
and that he only did 5 hours of legal work for the guy...

Crap... wake up!!!!

Obama lied on National Television!!!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:30 PM
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82. Who deep-sixed BCCI for the man who BANKROLLED his political career AND his primary?
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 05:30 PM by blm
Gee - BCCI's outstanding matters have been a BILLION TIMES BIGGER A DEAL to this nation and its national security than Rezko's realty scams could ever be.
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