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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:15 PM
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Taylor Marsh is on fire with "BO's Willie Horton"
http://www.taylormarsh.com/

Barack Obama's Willie Horton

Mr. Ayers continues: "Certainly flirting with the idea of terrorism was off the tracks and a mistake. The fact that we never executed that flirtation is important and significant and I think conveniently forgotten, but we never did." In fact, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts did set off a bomb at the Pentagon. In his book, he writes: "It turns out that we blew up a bathroom and, quite by accident, water plunged below and knocked out their computers for a time, disrupting the air war and sending me into deepening shades of delight." In those four little words, "disrupting the air war," there is the dark prospect of American soldiers in jeopardy. - WSJ, 2001

Over the last several months I've been talking to many people out of Illinois, as well as people beyond Obama's stomping grounds, who knew of the connection with Barack Obama and the domestic terrorist couple Bernardine Dohrn and William Ayers.


"There's no way to be committed to non-violence in one of the most violent societies that history has ever created." Bernardine Dohrn

Ben Smith has done a piece today on the relationship. It's a story many of us have been following. The Ayers story goes back years, to Vietnam, a subject, no doubt, that John McCain will mine. After all, who better to attack the Democratic nominee than a war hero tortured while an acquaintance of Barack Obama's was "disrupting the air war" in Vietnam, while equating Marines with "terrorists."

Later in the talk, Mr. Ayers declared: "The fact is that there was an official policy of our government to create terrorism in Vietnam. . . . How you resisted that policy was a burning question, and is still a good question."

So, to recap: The Weathermen weren't terrorists, but the U.S. Marines were. Even if we accept this perverse semantic equation, the position of the Weathermen's apologists is still remarkable.


The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth won't have to make stuff up about Obama. His relationship with Ayers is a fact, as they also were both seated on a nine-member board of the Woods Fund in 1999, for three years. In lieu of that connection, even in the face of a measly $200 contribution from Ayers to Obama, as well as the Obama campaign's statement decrying Ayers' actions when he was with the terrorist group The Weather Underground, quotes like the one below from Ayers are a general election gift to your opponent, especially considering Obama has no problem sitting on a board with this thug, or taking a meeting with him when launching your political career:


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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:16 PM
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1. Ayers, Rezko, McClurkin... yuck.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:18 PM
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2. Jackson Stephens, GHWBush, Dubai, Marc Rich, AQ Khan, James Bath, Adnan Khashoggi.....yuck.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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Worst of all.............. ..................Mark Penn...YUCK
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:22 PM
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9. Actually, GHWBush, Dubai and Stephens were worst - the others, inc Mark Penn are vessels
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:23 PM by blm
and tools USED by the global fascists. Stephens, Bush, Dubai and Saudi royals ARE some of the global fascists in charge over the last 40-50 yrs.
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 AM
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36. Sorry BLM, my rant was at the OP.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:30 PM
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14. Double YUCK!!
If TM is on fire, I hope it consumes her.



Peace:thumbsup:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:40 PM
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16. Taylor Marsh is on fire? So THAT'S what smells like sulfur.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:45 PM
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20. I thought it was the burning paper bag full of dog poo
that Taylor Marsh regularly dumps on the front steps of the blogosphere. I'm not going to step in her shit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:18 PM
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:46 PM
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21. LOL good one n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:26 AM
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62. And I hope she's shaking hands with James Carville at the time.
heh
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:24 AM
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35. Taylor Marsh????
you are frickin quoting Taylor Marsh???!! That is the equivalent of shilling for Bush with a Rove quote. Wake up!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:21 AM
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:28 AM
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69. with friends like that..... /nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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3. Give it a rest Taylor.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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5. Good god Taylor Marsh is a disgusting traitorous jerk.
Some progressive, she is.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 AM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:55 AM
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53. "Maybe just another boring misogynist?" What does that have to do with the fact that Taylor Marsh is
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:58 AM
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55. Back to FreeRepublic with you!
You are not even an interesting disruptor.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:02 AM
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56. Like you could be disrupted....
looking in that navel of yours has you captivated, doesn't it?
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 AM
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60. Get your tongue out of Hillary's and we'll talk.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:17 AM
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68. Why waste the time and energy?
Talking with the Willfully Ignorant is :boring:

buh bye.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 AM
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63. You are truly an idiot
I feel absolutely no qualms about making an ad hominem attack on you considering the ignorant and mind-bogglingly thuggish posts you've directed at too many other people on DU. You're not even creative with your insults, either - stupid? Drunk? This from the person who claimed AIPAC forced Bill Clinton to stick a cigar up Monica Lewinsky's "humidor"? The only person I see posting divisive, hateful shit here is YOU. So go back to your cave, troll.

Get a fucking life and stop disrupting DU.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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6. Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
<snip>

"The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001. (Obama's ties to the radical group first surfaced last week in a Bloomberg News article.)

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from Politico.com reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another former member of the radical group.

Opting to leave any attacks on the issue to the GOP may be wise, as attacks from Clinton could backfire. In his final day in office, President Clinton pardoned another one-time member of the Weather Underground, Susan L. Rosenberg, after she had served 16 years in prison on federal charges."

<snip>

"And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:50 PM
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25. "Clinton's Radical Past" smear email completely debunked
Why hasn't Obama called for his supporters to stop spreading this email smear?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/15/clintons-not-so-radical-past/

Clinton's not-so-radical past
By Robert Farley
Published on Friday, February 15th, 2008 at 06:04 p.m.



SUMMARY: A chain e-mail says Clinton sympathized with the Black Panthers and interned for a law firm run by a Communist. The source? An article by Clinton adviser-turned-foe Dick Morris.

The latest anti-Hillary Clinton chain e-mail making the rounds comes not from an anonymous voice in the blogosphere but from a former political consultant who once helped guide the Clintons’ political life in Arkansas and the White House.

We’ll start with the Black Panthers. Here’s what the e-mail, taken directly from Morris’ article, says: “Hillary’s main extracurricular activity in law school was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing and killing a federal agent. She went to court every day as part of a law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations and develop grounds for appeal.”

Here’s the history.

In 1970, eight Black Panthers, including its national chairman Bobby Seale, were brought to trial in New Haven, Conn., on charges of murdering a fellow member, Alex Rackley, who was suspected of being a police informant. He was not a federal agent.

The trial consumed the Yale campus, and many Yale students rallied in support of the black defendants, or at least for their right to a fair trial. Consider this statement from Yale president Kingman Brewster: “I personally want to say that I am appalled that things have come to such a pass that I am skeptical of the ability of black revolutionaries to achieve a fair trial anywhere in the U.S.”

Clinton, a Yale Law School student a the time, played a “minor” role in the doings that year, said Paul Bass, a journalist who spent years researching the Black Panther case for a book he co-authored called Murder in the Model City. She co-chaired a committee whose main role was to prevent violence at a May Day demonstration, he said.

Clinton’s committee also offered legal advice to demonstrators who got arrested and to monitor the trial for civil rights abuses, Bass said.

But if that civil-rights monitoring ever happened, said two sources interviewed by the St. Petersburg Times, one thing is certain: Clinton was not an every-day trial watcher, as Morris claims. Nor did she “help” the defense.

“I can’t say she was never in court,” said David Rosen, a junior member of the defense team for Seale. “But she was not there every day. In fact, I don’t even remember seeing her there at all. I know she didn’t do any work for the defense team.”

According to Carl Bernstein’s biography A Woman in Charge, Clinton was among the student-observers from a civil liberties class who attended the trial daily “to report possible abuses by the government, discuss them in class, write papers about them and prepare summaries for the American Civil Liberties Union.”

That last part is news to Mike Avery, who was hired by the ACLU as a staff lawyer to keep tabs on the Black Panther case.

“I didn’t see Hillary Rodham anywhere around the place, and I would have known,” said Avery, now a law professor at Suffolk Law School in Boston.

People involved in the case all knew each other and socialized, he said. “She was not in that crowd,” he said, “by no stretch of the imagination.”

Clinton’s campaign did not respond Times inquiries.

Another Morris charge sent by chain e-mail said: “Hillary interned with Bob Treuhaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him.”

In 1971, Clinton did spend a summer interning as a law clerk for Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein.

And senior partner Treuhaft had once been active in the American Communist Party, though he was not “head of the California Communist Party” as Morris claimed in his article. Investigated and harassed by McCarthyites in 1950s, Treuhaft was listed by the House Un-American Activities Committee as one of the most dangerously subversive lawyers in the country, according to his 2001 obituary in the Times of London. But he became disillusioned with the party and left it in 1958, before Clinton started her internship with the firm.

In her autobiography, Clinton makes only passing reference to her responsibilities at the firm, which she called “a small law firm in Oakland, California.” She wrote, “I spent most of my time working for Mal Burnstein researching, writing legal motions and briefs for a child custody case.”

Burnstein, who was never a Communist, is retired now. Reached at his home in California, Burnstein recalled that Clinton was one of the firm’s better summer interns: smart and a hard worker.

“She wasn’t political at all, that I remember,” Burnstein said. “The only politics that were discernible were probably liberal politics ... She came to us because of the civil rights cases we did, the things we did with racial equity and other civil rights things. That was her interest.”

In addition to Treuhaft’s former association with the Communist Party, another partner in the firm, Doris Walker, was, and still is, an active member.

Clinton must have known about those associations, Burnstein said. “It’s not like it was a secret.”

Walker, now retired, said she figured someone would try to make political hay out of it eventually. Reached at home in California this week, she said she “must be the only living Communist Party member of my generation.”

“It was sort of a left-wing firm,” Walker said, but most of the lawyers were not Communists. To dredge it up now, she said, amounts to little more than red-baiting.

Although Morris did not respond to an e-mail seeking comment, in his 2004 book, Rewriting History, an acerbic rebuttal to Hillary Clinton’s autobiography, Living History, he takes a more measured stance.

“Hillary was no Communist, nor should her work at the Treuhaft firm imply that she was,” Morris wrote. “But the fact that she chose this job out of all the summer jobs that might have been available, traveling three thousand miles for it, tells something about her orientation at the time. Just as the fact that she does not describe the firm’s work or reputation says something about her today.”

That part’s not in the e-mail, which ends with Morris’ assessment of Clinton: “She is a disaster for all Americans.”



Still waiting for Obama to ask his supporters to stop forwarding this email.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:26 PM
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78. Thanks
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:29 PM
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79. IOIYO (Pronounced e-o-e-yo)
It's. Okay. If. You're. Obama.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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7. What? No hookers and blow?
Taylor Marsh is slipping.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:20 PM
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8. Is she on fire about Clinton pardoning one of the Weathermen too?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:23 PM
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10. Of course not. That's completely different.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:03 AM
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43. bicentenial, the Weathermen were a group of peaceful protestors
Ayers was distantly affiliated to the Weathermen Underground.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM
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11. Contras, Black Ops assassins, Black Panthers, CIA, Weatherman---they all come in from the cold.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM by McCamy Taylor
There is such a big difference in the popular imagination between a political criminal who uses violence in their youth and then switches to working within the system in middle age and an economic/violent/sex criminal like Willie Horton that you can not even compare the two.

I have no doubt that Swiftboat Vet types will try anything. If Hillary is the nominee they will try to say she is having a lesbian affair with Chelsea.

If we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear, what does that make us?

Obama has an amazing gift for disarming his opponents with his words. They are going to have a hard time making anything stick.

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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:49 AM
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41. McCamy, I don't understand the outrage on Hillary
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 01:52 AM by UALRBSofL
Due to an Op-Ed piece written by Taylor Marsh. I posted about this earlier and I suppose no one read it. Basically she's trying to connect Obama to Ayers. Ayers was an anti-vietnam protester in the 60's who was a member of the Weathermen Underground, but he really wasn't a true member. Ayers was what I would call a terrorist because he set a bomb at the pentagon, at the Hoover Building, and, he had a bomb blow up in his home killing his girlfriend and two others. The Weathermen were peace activists, nothing like Ayers. After the bombings he hid out for several years. He now is a professor at Chicago University. In his book published in 2001 he admitted he would do the same thing again(the bombings). Anyway, apparently he donated money to Obama's campaign and that's the connection. Other then that, there hasn't been any proof they are close friends. Hillary had nothing to do with TM's Op-Ed piece.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:06 AM
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44. Perhaps you missed the fact that It came directly from Hillary's camp
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM
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12. old aborigine saying:
"do not throw boomerang at your enemies and miss"
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:46 PM
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22. Every time I begin to feel a little sorry for Hillary,
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:56 PM by Window
she and her campaign pulls some wild shit like trying to get FL & MI seated, slinging mud at Obama, etc. Why doesn't she just let the DNC and party elders work it out. She stated herself that those states didn't count -- but that was before Obama started kicking her butt every which way.

And, last night put the icing on the cake. She pulled that Xerox crap which bombed. When that failed, she played the 'feel sorry for me cause my husband cheated on me card.' Then she got all soft and almost pulled a New Hampshire. I think her campaign staff told her to go into the debate using any and everything she could think of to sway the gullible public -- and it damned near worked -- until all the interviews she gave today.

Oh, and the standing ovation was for both candidates because the debate was at its end.

I'm sick of Hillary and giving her the benefit of the doubt, only to get suckered again. To hell with Hillary.

Damn that felt good. My first rant ever on a message board.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:29 PM
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13. This is disgusting trash. Taylor Marsh needs to be run out of the Democratic party.
Hillary can not get out of this race fast enough. She will destroy the entire party for her self interest. It absolutely disgusts me. All the respect I had for her or Bill is gone after this nonsense.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:35 PM
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15. I predict Shawn Hannity will start covering this story in early September
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:43 PM
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17. Good heavens. What a pantload. Taylor Marsh is off the deep end.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:48 PM
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24. Let's hear it for Mr. Natural!
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:44 PM
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18. Taylor Marsh is a CESSPOOL
WORSE than a freeper........PAID by the DLC

Lets not forget Hillary's running mate Bill pardoned some of them too

LMAO
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:44 PM
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19. My opinion of Taylor Marsh just plummeted.
I'm not very familiar with her, but I assumed she cared more about a Democrat winning in November than which one until now.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:46 PM
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23. "The Weathermen weren't terrorists, but the U.S. Marines were."
Tell *that* to a Marine. I double-dog dare you.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:51 PM
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26. Why are people trying to turn this into a referendum on the Weathermen...
when Barack Obama wasn't even into his teens at the time they were sneaking bombs into the pentagon?

Honestly, this is really scraping the barrel.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 AM
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54. Because NOTHING is beneath the Hillars in service of their hive queen...
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:45 PM
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27. Ann Coulter reincarnated?
"domestic terrorist couple Bernardine Dohrn and William Ayers"....

OMG, Ayers is a professor at the U of I, there are no warrants out for his arrest, he is not a terrorist.

But Taylor Marsh, who apparently wants to emulate the likes of Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh,and Joe McCarthy, is ready to Swift Boat Obama for his past associations.

The McCarthy Witch Hunt strategy of Guilt by Association lives on in Taylor Marsh Land....

Both were members of the "Woods Fund". Well, if you research the Woods Fund, you will find it is a progressive organization that has been around for quite some time and is not at all an organization of terrorists or radicals. When I researched them, I put them on a list of deserving causes for donations!

But what's her name...ann coulter....no, I mean Taylor Marsh makes it sound like it is a subversive organization and swiftboating a progressive voice like Ayers in the progress.

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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:56 PM
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28. So, she is resorting to Poppy's labeling by using Willie Horton's name
Sheesh, with friends like this who needs enemies. She's NOT helping the party, maybe that's her goal to destroy the party, until there is nothing left of it.

I think Taylor Marsh is suffering from brain farts, I guess that's bound to happen when you're full of hot gas.


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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:11 PM
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29. Why use the term "Willie Horton"?
This story has about as much legs as a pebble. Taylor Marsh's embracing of a Repug "issue" to try to tie to Obama shows anyone just where she stands or would be willing to sell out to if her precious Goldwater Girl doesn't get coronated.

The story is completely debunked here:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:16 PM
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30. You should be ashamed of yourself
For heaven's sake, Ayers is a Professor at a prestigious university in the Chicago. Lots of people sit on boards with him or come into contact with him in other ways. Obama is not a friend of his. There's no story here. ABC has already pointed out the Clinton hypocrisy on this. That piece of shit filthy political whore Taylor Marsh is disgusting. You get dirty just sidling up to her. Congrats to you, Marsh and Hilly for wallowing in slime.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:10 AM
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32. Wow. The Clinton campaign has really sunk to a new low with this one.
Are democrats traitors Karl? Is the "democrat" party the "terrorist" party? Fuck off.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:14 AM
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33. new campaign slogan: How Low Can We Go?
fits.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:14 AM
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34. Marsh is such a scumbag. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:28 AM
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37. Taylor Marsh is a sad woman who reminds me of those 50 year olds you see hitting on 23 year olds.
I think it's clear Taylor Marsh is a wannabe-Stiffler's mom.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 AM
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:48 AM
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52. Sorry, not buying it.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:49 AM by Drunken Irishman
I don't like Taylor Marsh, but it doesn't have anything to do with her sex. She just seems like a very bitter, insecure person. Just look at her website, it's her self-promoting to the extreme and it makes me sick. I'm sorry you find my comment sexist, but she is the type of person that is totally enamored with herself and I don't like that.

As for hate, well, you want to see hate, go read her blog and the comments to her posts. Now that's hate.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:07 AM
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57. She's has a radio show....she
has to self-promote. I don't see insecurity...she wouldn't be on the radio if she were insecure.

You know it's funny...I see BO totally enamored with himself and I don't like that.

I see plenty of hate here at DU. Must I see more?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:25 AM
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59. I had no problem with Taylor Marsh until she made it her mission to attack Obama.
And now she's posting debunked right-wing smear attacks.

I'm tired of the Clinton bashing and I'm tired of the Obama bashing.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:30 AM
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70. And I am sick and tired
of women being bashed and ridiculed.

I have been a life long Dem. After watching the treatment of HRC by many Dems, I honestly can say I no longer want to be affiliated with this Party. Women are the backbone of the Party...without women voters, the Dem Party would be dead.

What Taylor Marsh is saying is nothing compared to what the Republican Machine is going to throw at BO...nothing. Remember what they did to Kerry? Well....fasten your seat belts, you ain't seen nothing yet. Marsh is doing ya a favor...

Oh...and considering McCain is up there in years. Just think if he has a bit of a health problem...and we're looking at Huckabee?! They will frame it: Christian vs. Muslim. Remember, say a lie often enough and it becomes truth. Why do you think the MSM has been pushing BO as the nominee? The MSM is run by 5 ugly, rich, white republican guys...There was no further dirt on HRC, but BO.... They are licking their chops!

good luck...I mean that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:19 PM
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74. "Remember what they did to Kerry?" You mean the same thing
Taylor Marsh did to Kerry?

She's a despicable hack!

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:21 PM
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75. You're beating your head against a brick wall.
Poster only knows how to scream 'MISOGYNY' when confronted with a conflicting opinion.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:51 AM
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64. that's a sexist post
deny it all you want, but it is. You probably will eventually understand.

I think Taylor Marsh is often full of shit, by the way.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:34 AM
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38. Op, there was a post started indirectly about this
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:34 AM
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39. Trah. Why no profile? Have I seen you before? Methinks.
Cya #131.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:42 AM
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40. I was reading some of the posts on there, wow some of these people are psychos!
Heres one of the posts: (I'm glad most hillary supporters here are not psychos like some of these ppl.)

"Taylor, what do you think will happen if the NYTimes comes out with proof that there was a relationship? I'm hoping that McCain is telling the truth because I don't want Obama to get a free ride to the White House if he's the nominee.
I CAN NOT WAIT when the media goes after Obama. It's about time. But I have a feeling that Obama appears safe for now. Hopefully Rezko will change things for him in the near future.
But I predict that the NYTimes will be the ultimate victim of their own publication. I doubt they will come out with valid sources or evidence of an affair and then they will look like idiots. This can definitely galvanize the right behind McCain than we've ever seen so far in this election. "
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:02 AM
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42. Taylor Marsh is a disgusting, evil bitch who is a traitor to her own party
Tearing down a democrat while defending McCain, doesn't that sound repug to you?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:43 AM
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50. Would you say that Taylor, a
Democrat who supports HRC, is more or less evil than Bush?

I would rather hear the bad news now instead of a big surprise if he becomes the nominee.

If you think the republicans are unaware of this news about BO, you are very naive.

I can't believe you can a fellow Dem 'a disgusting, evil bitch.'

Are you sure you're a Dem? Seriously.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:23 PM
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76. Yes i'm a REAL democrat who will support the dem nominee whoever it is
This stupid disgusting bitch is encouraging democratic voters to vote for McCain in November. That is not a real democrat. I've read some of the psycho comments on her websites, those people are unbelievable. I can say for the first time that I don't think some of you are better than repugs. I thought dems were better, but some are not.

I don't care that Taylor supports HRC, but her smearing of BO is absolutely VILE. I LIKE Hillary, I can't stand some of her supporters, SOME of her supporters do her NO JUSTICE.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:45 AM
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51. Is something inaccurate in her report?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:46 AM
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65. Yes.
I see you're unfamiliar with Marsh's oeuvre.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:22 AM
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46. How Republican of you. Practiced much?
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 AM
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49. Meet Barack's foreign advisor, then get back to me, vidoe link...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:14 AM
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58. Taylor Marsh reported that Hillary treated people like dirt and said she had "Queen Bee syndrome"
In January 2007, before the paycheck, Taylor Marsh smacked down Hillary:

Clinton and Talk Host Schultz Collide

(be sure to check out the queen been image)

Read the Raw Story piece. It dovetails nicely on my piece last night. More on that story in a minute.

But seriously, this is getting pretty ridiculous very fast. Evidently, Clinton's people believe she can get elected by dissing progressive radio, while simultaneously sticking a finger in small business blogs. Hey, but when you're as big as Hillary you don't need your grass roots peeps. She can do it all by herself... with the help of those right-wing bloggers whose sites she advertised her live web chat.

Ed Schultz isn't taking this malarkey either.

Many of you have requested hearing from Hillary on progressive talk especially The Ed Schultz Show. I want you to know our producer James Holm tirelessly works the contacts and has repeatedly tried to connect with Clinton's people.

Cutting to the chase, Hillary's people treat us like "dirt." We are constantly disregarded, told things that aren't true, and given speculation an interview might happen someday.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of it. This morning I watched Hillary Clinton tell CNN she is accessible. What? To the TV cameras yes, to the base of loyal listeners on progressive talk radio, absolutely not!

Reaching over 2.5 million listeners who are engaged in changing the country I believe qualifies us for some attention. I realize Hillary is an international figure and star but this pattern of treatment to The Ed Schultz Show has been an on-going pattern which tells me all they care about is her mug on TV.

The conservatives have done wonders with audio continually talking to and solidifying their base. It's apparent to me radio is minor to the people surrounding this leading candidate. ...

Liberal talk show host trashes Clinton's staff, sends out photo with Obama emphasis added

Ed, I feel your annoyance. It's fitting that the above story appears next to Clinton's web chat BlogAd, isn't it? (heh-he.)

I've been writing about this for years. The fact that the DC Democrats just don't understand progressive radio, nor do they care one whit about it. This story about Hillary treating Schultz like "dirt" is emblematic of her campaign so far, but symbolic of DC Democrats. Can you imagine anyone in the Republican Party treating their right-wing hosts like this? Not. Going. To. Happen.

I really had no feelings whatsoever about Hillary one way or the other from the start. I was excited she was the first woman with a chance to win who was actually running. But I have to tell you that after the last few days or so I've moved into the camp that is not impressed at all with Clinton and the team she has around her, who seem not only arrogant, but possessing a queen fetish.

My conversations with someone I always considered an ally didn't help either. Evidently, Hotline was interested in the small business post I did last night and called Clinton's office to check it out. Someone in that office told Hotline that my story was inaccurate. Leaving aside some of the judgments I made in the piece that could be construed as subjective, there is nothing inaccurate about my piece. In fact, Peter Daou, someone whom I have been friendly with and have good relations with because he has been very forthcoming with me and even generous once, said in a conversation I had with him this morning that he didn't care about the criticisms in my post, but that I needed to make a correction about the ad buy part of my post. A correction of what? I asked. That went nowhere. Then he told me in a long explanation that I was included in the ad buy but the ad was rejected because my ad strips were full. Excuse me and with all due respect to Peter, because the ad buy was supposedly placed through someone else in the Clinton camp, but that just isn't credible. However, I am checking it out (see update below).

It's time to move on from this ad buy bs. However, I'm filing it under PROGRESSIVES BEWARE. Radio hosts, fuhghettaboutit.

Call the Clinton camp anytime for a clarification if you need one, I was told. Well, I've got a phone and they can reach out to me as well. But they won't. Ask Ed Schultz. It's the Queen Bee syndrome. The people must go to Hillary's hive. Because she's not coming to us. Clinton's inevitability campaign has already gone to her head.


More from Marsh: Blog P.I., Peter Daou and More HRC Ad Buy Bull

More on the incident that ticked Marsh off: "Why do people like HRC, no matter how often it becomes clear that wingnuts hate us, seek approval from wingnuts?"

After the paycheck:

Ted Kennedy endorses Obama so what does Hillary hack Taylor Marsh do: Write a post about how JFK would have voted on Iraq

Taylor Marsh's despicable dishonesty in smearing Obama

Lying Clinton hack, Taylor Marsh, exposed by Las Vegas Sun

Taylor Marsh's own words contradict her current swiftboating lies

Taylor Marsh smears Obama, praises McCain's character





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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:27 AM
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61. Quelle surprise!
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:57 AM
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66. This will help rally the Republican base ...
... but, assuming Obama has reasonable explanations for some of his associations, I don't think it will damage him anymore that Swiftboat accusations against McCain as a war prisoner will damage him.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:31 AM
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67. The Republican base is already rallied
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:24 PM
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77. oh please.
You read taylor marsh, that tells me all there is to know about you. Are you one of those democrats who will not support the dem nominee? If so, then move on out. DU doesn't want you here.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:06 PM
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71. On fire you say?
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:09 PM
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72. This is really sad, what she' doing
What a low life. She might as well be Rush at this point.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:19 PM
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73. Throw as much mud as you like. Quote every Clinton shill or right wing pundit you want
It won't matter.
You just dirty yourself when you lie down with swine.
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