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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:46 AM
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At this point, Clinton is hoping for a major Obama gaffe, scandal, or outing of some kind
She and her campaign and countless others are not so stupid as to be unrealistic about her chances of actually winning the nomination. Numbers do not have a bias, and we all know (save for the few delusional Clinton supporters) that the probability is next to zero. She has to win over 60% from here on out just to catch up. That is not my opinion, that is a fact.

So why is Hillary Clinton not dropping out of this race?

Hope.

She hopes Obama says something, does something, anything wrong. Sure, she and her campaign are throwing as much mud as possible (plagiarism), hoping for something to stick, but in the end this is Obama's nomination to lose. He has to make a mistake.

A slip of the tongue probably wouldn't be enough, but that depends on what he says, obviously. Some kind of outing or a scandal from his past would possibly do it. Either way, Ms. Clinton knows that this is over, but her ambitions for power override any good for the party or the country that her dropping out by March 4th would do.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:47 AM
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1. Not. Gonna. Happen.
March 5th this can end, and the GE campaigning can commence.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:47 AM
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2. I'm pretty sure they're going over Michelle's Princeton thesis with a fine-tooth comb.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 11:48 AM by wienerdoggie
Sad.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:48 AM
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3. Hoping for and digging for
At least we'll know that our nominee is bullet-proof once the Clinton slime machine is done with him.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:51 AM
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6. Billary will pull out all the slime they can fine
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:48 AM
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4. Taylor Marsh and her clones are trying their hardest
Today's "outrage" is that Obama met with some former Black Panther years ago.

These are so-called Democrats, mind you.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:49 AM
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5. They need to watch it. The bigger picture is having united party to take the WH
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:51 AM
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7. I know. Every bit of Swiftboating used against Obama in the general will have come from them
So-called progressives.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:52 AM
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8. Weather Underground
Black Panthers were what the right wing connected Hillary to. But that doesn't stop the Clinton campaign from doing the same to Obama, does it? :puke:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:56 AM
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11. You're right, my bad.
It is pretty despicable. These Hillary Clinton trolls are willing to sacrifice this election if they don't get their way.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:49 PM
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22. And I thought weather underground was a website about hurricanes, etc.
lol.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:53 AM
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9. Or worse.
Let's face it this is getting scary.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:53 AM
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10. And so many of her adoring fans here
I don't like to see it, and I don't like to say it, but it's true. Many of them won't vote for Obama if he's the nominee- more Clinton supporters seem to say that than Obama supporters. And many of them would actually like to see him lose, despite the extreme damage that McCain would do.

Despicable.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:36 PM
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19. Well,
I have no intention of voting for Hillary, but I don't see the point of detracting from discourse by throwing a tantrum about it.
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carlotta Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:58 AM
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12. Well, I don't think that's going to happen
But....I hope to God that if Obama does have any skeletons in his closet they come out now, rather than after he has secured the nomination. Then, we're really cooked.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:58 AM
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13. It would have to be big - Michelle Obama already admitted she wasn't proud of
the US - that was HUGE.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:01 PM
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14. Don't you have another country to bomb?
THAT WAS HUGH!!1!!

I'm not particularly proud of our foreign policy right now, are you?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:13 PM
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17. Yeah, Pakistan. She didn't say she wasn't proud of current fp - she said her country. Ever.
Never. Not once. In her entire adult life, was she once proud of her country.

That's pretty damn big.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:31 PM
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18. So don't vote for HER.
Oh, she's NOT RUNNING.
She's going to be first lady.

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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM
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27. Well, then tell Obama to stop attacking Bill Clinton.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:59 PM
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21. No she didn't. She wasn't proud of our political process--you're just parroting
the RW line to help Hillary. Michelle has already clarified her remarks and moved on, but Hillbots here are going to keep beating this horse for advantage anyway. You're all transparent.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM
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29. W.O.R.M.
Why do the Obama's always have to tell us what they really meant - why can't they be clear from the get go?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:02 PM
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15. uh, no it wasn't HUGE
and it was completely pre-empted by McCain's little story. Plus, the Obama campaign effectively defused it. I'm sure it will be dredged up in November, but that's life and they'll have to deal with it. Anyway, aren't you one of those that won't vvote for him?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:39 PM
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20. Then why post here anymore?
If you think the next First Lady did something so "huge"?

As Obama said - this is silly season.

I assume you still plan to support the Dem nominee?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:54 PM
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23. LOL...they were joking about it on local talking head shows.
If you think this is HUGE you need to get out more. You may WANT it to be huge, but if wishes were horses then beggars would ride.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:08 PM
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16. Unfortunately, even if this happened, the MSM would keep
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 12:09 PM by juajen
it under wraps, if possible, until the appropriate time, that being when their corporate masters tell them to "let it rip".

What evidence do you have that this woman's passion for power exceeds her passion for her country? How the hell does straightening out this mess we find ourselves in possibly point to a passion for power? She will be reorganizing the closet; soothing over hurt feelings; watching the grits boil while holding the baby and talking over the phone, you know multi-tasking; putting bandaids and antibiotic cream on sores and scratches to prevent further inflamation and rushing to the emergency room to save the day.

Gosh, sounds like every day in a woman's life. I guess she has had 35 years of experience. The Lady should be President of the United States!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:56 PM
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24. They need him to self implode because all their attacks are just helping him.
All the Clintons know is attack, and it's backfiring on them.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:57 PM
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25. "Outing"? Like, say, a picnic at Grant Park?
Or maybe a trip to the Lincoln Park Zoo?

Would an outing to the Field Museum do the trick?

Kind of curious here.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:31 PM
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26. Hillary becomes more pathetic with each passing day. Wish she'd just
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM by monmouth
go home and take Billy with her...
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM
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28. Today's attack is clearly her last desperate attempt at a win
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