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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:29 AM
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Bush losing support among Cubans
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-acubapoll21mar21,0,2025102.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Bush's diminishing support among Cuban-Americans could signal future problems for the Republican Party, whose hold on that community appears to be slipping.

Cuban-Americans who arrived since 1985, who represent almost one-third of the adult population, and those born in the United States were the least likely to support the president and the Cuban-American Republican members of Congress.

Among the 10 percent of Cuban-American adults born in the United States, only 37.9 percent said they would definitely or probably vote for the president.

Overall, Cuban-Americans favor continuing the economic embargo of the island by a margin of 66 percent to 34 percent. But the vast majority -- 74.7 percent -- say the embargo has not worked.

"The embargo is still a symbolic stick that the Cuban community feels it still has in its hands," said Grenier, the poll's author.

But when asked about specific aspects of the embargo and the travel ban, Cuban-Americans are split.

Those who came to the United States before 1975 are the most likely to oppose unrestricted travel, with seven in 10 saying it should not be allowed.

But for those who arrived in the United States since 1985, 68.3 percent support unrestricted travel. Cuban-Americans born in the United States are evenly split.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:43 AM
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:58 AM
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2. It means that the next generations of Cuban-Americans are less and less
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 05:00 AM by w4rma
likely to support the trade embargo on Cuba which is pretty much the only thing that the Republican Party leadership is doing for Cuban-Americans.

It also means that next generations of Cuban-Americans have less and less interest in forcing Cuba to give them anything that their parents/grandparents lost when they left.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:09 AM
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3. Something smells
alright but it's not the math.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:50 AM
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4. There is one clear way to cement and further this. Nominate Alex Penelas
for US senate. He has basically presented himself as a centrist mayor, however he has said himself both at appearances and somewhat in private to my group of friends that Bob Graham is his model senator. Some people have put a really bad image about him out there which I really think has been distorted. As someone who has seen the way he deals with people ever since he first spoke to my class in my freshman year, I'll just say I'm a pretty cynical person about politicans and he would be a great senator in my opinion. In addition to forcing a huge leap forward forever in Florida politics by making the first cuban senator and current only hispanic senator a Cuban democrat, something it isn't easy to be.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:18 PM
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8. Penelas is a lousy excuse for a Democrat
He didn't bother doing anything back while Jeb and Katherine Harris were stealing the election and instead went on a vacation cruise elsewhere and actually once held a campaign rally for one of the Diaz-Balarts.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:31 PM
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9. Most of that is heavily spun. Penelas got the cold shoulder from the Gore
campaign. He offered his help, but recieved mixed signals from them because of the whole Elian dissagreement they had. And he didn't hold a "campaign rally" for Diaz-Balart. He attended and spoke at a fundraiser because he has been friends with them for years. He has said he wouldn't have done it if he'd known that Mario would not vote like his centrist brother Lincoln.

He has cemented a reputation as a bridge-builder, not a raging partisan, at the state and county level, which is exactly what we need to win the senate race. The alternatives of Castor and Deutch are far weaker candidates for many different reasons.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 11:12 AM
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6. The Cuban-American community is also
what keeps Jeb Bush in office, to an extent. According to the New Yorker, if Al Gore had won just a small fraction of the Cuban-American vote (like 40%) he would have won Florida.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:17 PM
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7. He DID win Florida
but going by the "official" results, he just needed 528 more Cuban votes, even that would equal 40%.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:38 PM
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10. We are becoming more diverse.
There has always been an over-simplification regarding our community's 'support' for the Republican Party. While we largely remain ardent anti-communists, something seen as 'conservative', we tend to be all over the map on other social, political and economic issues.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:52 PM
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11. I read somewhere that they as a community have actually donated more
to democrats than republicans. But in presidential politics it's hugely tilted towards the GOP.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:54 PM
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12. Both statements are true.
In general, the community tends to support Republicans for POTUS, but favor Democrats for state and local offices. :)
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 09:46 PM
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13. What will happen after Castro?
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 09:47 PM by Democat
The Republicans are pretty good at keeping people in line when there is an obvious enemy to unite against. Once Castro is gone, what do the Republicans offer the Cuban community?

Republicans are not known for being strong supporters of any minority group, unless there's something in it for them (like votes or money.)
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:04 PM
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14. who knows, but it will be a good day no matter what
Castro is an asswipe
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:11 PM
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15. Minority groups are the ONLY group the Repukes support
unless you think the majority are rich white Christian businessmen
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:54 PM
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16. why have the cubans in FL traditionally gone for the R candidate?
Why not Dem?
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