I'm from Ohio.

Dayton born, 1980. Yup, a white 28 year old male with a college education. Guess who I'm for? Hillary. Your predictions have never been more inaccurate, so don't be pissed at me and everyone else raised in OH when we go Clinton. Barack is cool. Congrats for that, people. I'm interested in candidacy for President of the United States, which has nothing to do with show business. I picked my candidate on paper, not TV!

looks like clinton is the side show with her constantly trying to remake herself and her image.

I'd be intereted in seeing that paper.

Endorses Obama. :rofl:

Plain Dealer endorses Obama, McCain (Cleveland)

February 09, 2008 18:00PM

The Plain Dealer has made its choices in the presidential primaries: Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.

The paper says Obama has "an optimistic approach unencumbered by the past," and it calls McCain "a plain-spoken pragmatist who can build coalitions."

http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2008/02/plain_dealer_endorses_obama_mc.html

If so, I'm still waiting for Hillary to show me hers....as well as her tax returns.

Here's that cool dude Barack's accomplishments.

COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS:
Obama holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.<61>

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:

** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountability_and_Transparency_Act_of_2006


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblask/gGCPsK


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.html

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /



Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

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OBAMA'S US SENATE RECORD:

S.1975 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/8/2005) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
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S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.
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By Charles Peters
Friday, January 4, 2008; A21

...Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. <>

Consider a bill into which Obama clearly put his heart and soul. The problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced -- by beating the daylights out of the accused.

Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.
This seemed likely to stop the beatings, but the bill itself aroused immediate opposition. There were Republicans who were automatically tough on crime and Democrats who feared being thought soft on crime. There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument. Vigorous opposition came from the police, too many of whom had become accustomed to using muscle to "solve" crimes. And the incoming governor, Rod Blagojevich, announced that he was against it.
Obama had his work cut out for him.
<>
The police tried to limit the videotaping to confessions, but Obama, knowing that the beatings were most likely to occur during questioning, fought -- successfully -- to keep interrogations included in the required videotaping.

Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.
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Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor

and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure").

Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303_pf.html
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Ethics and Lobbying Reform
Throughout his political career, Barack Obama has been a leader in fighting for open and honest government. During his first year as an Illinois State Senator, he helped lead the fight to pass Illinois' first ethics reform bill in 25 years. As a U.S. Senator, he has spearheaded the effort to clean up Washington in the wake of the Jack Abramoff scandal.

Senator Obama is one of the authors of the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act (S. 2180). The bill would lengthen the cooling off period to two years for lawmakers and staff who seek to become lobbyists, and it would require immediate disclosure as soon as any job negotiations begin.

The bill would open conference committee meetings to the public and require that all bills be posted on the Internet for 24 hours before they can be voted on by the Senate. Finally, the bill would end all lobbyist-funded gifts, meals, and travel and strengthen the Senate office that monitors lobbyist disclosure forms.

In addition, Senator Obama has sponsored three other ethics-related bills:

The Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act (S. 2259)The bill would create an outside ethics commission to receive complaints from the public on alleged ethics violations by members of Congress, staff, and lobbyists. The commission would have the authority to investigate complaints and present public findings of fact about possible violations to the House and Senate Ethics Committee and Justice Department. By taking the initial fact finding out of the hands of members of Congress, who are often reluctant to investigate their colleagues, the bill ensures prompt and fair disposition of public complaints.

To avoid manipulation of the commission for political purposes, any person filing a complaint that they knew to be false would be subject to a fine and/or imprisonment. No complaints could be filed against a member of Congress for 30 days before a primary election and 60 days before a general election.

The bill has been widely endorsed by reform groups. According to Common Cause, "this legislation would do more to reform ethics and lobbying than any other piece of legislation introduced thus far because it goes to the heart of the problem: enforcement."

Public Citizen praised Senator Obama "for having the courage to challenge the business-as-usual environment on Capitol Hill and introduce far-reaching legislation." Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington stated: "This is the first bill that deals seriously with the lack of oversight and enforcement in the existing congressional ethics process. . . . This bill will help restore Americans' confidence in the integrity of Congress.

The Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act (S. 2261)
The bill would shed light on the almost 16,000 earmarks that were included in spending bills in 2005. Under the bill, all earmarks, including the name of the requestor and a justification for the earmark, would have to be disclosed 72 hours before they could be considered by the full Senate. Senators would be prohibited from advocating for an earmark if they have a financial interest in the project or earmark recipient. And, earmark recipients would have to disclose to an Office of Public Integrity the amount that they have spent on registered lobbyists and the names of those lobbyists.

The Curtailing Lobbyist Effectiveness through Advance Notification, Updates, and Posting Act (The CLEAN UP Act) (S. 2179)

The bill aims to improve public access to information about all legislation, including conference reports and appropriations legislation, in particular after hurried, end-of-session negotiations. Conference committee meetings and deliberations would have to be open to the public or televised, and conference reports would have to identify changes made to the bill from the House and Senate versions. Finally, no bill could be considered by the full Senate unless the measure has been made available to all Senators and the general public on the Internet for at least 72 hours.

Health Care
The United States is one of the wealthiest nations in the world, yet more than 45 million Americans have no health insurance. Too many hard-working Americans cannot afford their medical bills, and thus, health-related issues are the number one cause for personal bankruptcy. Too many employers are finding it difficult to offer the coverage their employees need.

Promoting affordable, accessible, and high-quality health care was a priority for Barack Obama in the Illinois State Senate and is a priority for him in the United States Senate. He believes firmly that health care should be a right for everyone, not a privilege for the few.


Destroying Surplus and Unguarded Conventional Weapons
After visiting weapons stockpiles in Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan, Senators Lugar and Obama introduced S. 2566, which would expand the cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons.

Sex Offenders

Senator Obama cosponsored Dru's Law (S. 792) which creates a nationwide sex offender database and requires greater monitoring of sex offenders upon their release from prison. The bill passed the Senate on July 28, 2005.

He also cosponsored the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act. This bill increases the penalties for sex crimes against children under the age of 12, and creates a national Internet site known as the National Sex Offender Public Registry. The bill will also provide grants to local law enforcement to assist in preventing and investigating sex crimes against minors.

Violence Against Women Act
Senator Obama cosponsored extension of Violence Against Women Act (S. 1197), which passed the Senate on October 4, 2005, and was signed into law. The Act provides increased funds to law enforcement to combat violence against women. It also establishes a sexual assault services program and provides grants for education programs to prevent domestic violence and encourage reporting of abuses.

The Senate Immigration Bill
Senator Obama played a key role in the crafting of the immigration reform bill that the Senate passed in May 2006. The bill, which President Bush supports, would provide more funds and technology for border security and prevent employers from skirting our laws by hiring illegal immigrants. The bill also would provide immigrants who are now contributing and responsible members of society an opportunity to remain in the country and earn citizenship. But not all illegal immigrants would be guaranteed the right to remain in the U.S. under this proposal; they would first have to pay a substantial fine and back taxes, learn English, satisfy a work requirement, and pass a criminal background check.

Senator Obama offered three amendments that were included in the Senate bill. The first amendment strengthens the requirement that a job be offered at a prevailing wage to American workers before it is offered to a guestworker. The second amendment makes it simple, but mandatory, for employers to verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States. And the third amendment authorizes $3 million a year for the FBI to improve the speed and accuracy of the background checks required for immigrants seeking to become citizens.



Drinking Water Security
Senator Obama drafted an amendment, which was included in the Safe Drinking Water Act, which passed the EPW Committee on July 20, 2005. The Obama amendment would provide $37.5 million over the next five years to protect the country's drinking water from a terrorist attack. It also instructs Environmental Protection Agency and the Centers for Disease Control to develop the tools needed by drinking water systems to detect and respond to the introduction of biological, chemical, and radiological contaminants by terrorists.


Greater Funding for Veterans Health Care
As early as February 2005, Senator Obama warned of a shortfall in the VA budget. Four months later, the VA reported that in fact it had more than a $1 billion shortfall. Senator Obama cosponsored a bill that led to a $1.5 billion increase in veterans' medical care. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama cosponsored measures that would have provided additional funding increases for veterans.

In September 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act (S. 3988) to improve the VA’s planning process to avoid budget shortfalls in the future. The bill requires the VA and the Department of Defense to work together and share data so that we know precisely how many troops will be returning home and entering the VA system.

Homeless Veterans
Every year, 400,000 veterans across the country, including an estimated 38,000 in Chicago, spend some time living on the streets. Senator Obama has been a leader in fighting homelessness among veterans. He authored the Sheltering All Veterans Everywhere Act (SAVE Act) (S. 1180) to strengthen and expand federal homeless veteran programs that serve over 100,000 homeless veterans annually. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama passed an amendment to increase funding for homeless veterans programs by $40 million. These funds would benefit programs that provide food, clothing, mental health and substance abuse counseling, and employment and housing assistance to homeless veterans.

In June 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Homes for Heroes Act (S. 3475), which would expand access to long-term affordable housing for homeless veterans by setting aside $225 million to purchase, build or rehabilitate homes and apartments for veterans. The legislation would also greatly expand existing veterans rental assistance programs and create a new office within the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) to coordinate services to homeless veterans.

Food for Recovering Soldiers
Senator Obama introduced an amendment that became law providing food services to wounded veterans receiving physical therapy or rehabilitation services at military hospitals. Previously, service members receiving physical therapy or rehabilitation services in a medical hospital for more than 90 days were required to pay for their meals.

Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and TBI
Senator Obama fought a VA proposal that would have required a reexamination of all PTSD cases in which full benefits were granted. He and Senator Durbin passed an amendment that has become law preventing the VA from conducting a review of cases, without first providing Congress with a complete report regarding the implementation of such review. In November 2005, the VA announced that it was abandoning its planned review.

Senator Obama passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI). TBI is being called the signature injury of the Iraq war. The blast from improvised explosive devices can jar the brain, causing bruising or permanent damage. Concussions can have huge health effects including slowed thinking, headaches, memory loss, sleep disturbance, attention and concentration deficits, and irritability.

Easing the Transition to the VA
Senator Obama passed an amendment that became law requiring the Department of Defense (DOD) to report to Congress on the delayed development of an electronic medical records system compatible with the VA's electronic medical records system. DOD's delay in developing such a system has created obstacles for service members transitioning into the VA health care system.

In September 2006, Senator Obama introduced the Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act (S. 3988) which would help veterans transition from the DOD health system to the VA system by extending the window in which new veterans can get mental health care from two years to five years. The Lane Evans bill also would improve transition services for members of the National Guard and Reserves.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633


Will he uphold the constitution? That's been his life passion, so why shouldn't he? :shrug:


Obama Says Gitmo Facility Should Close

The Democratic presidential hopeful pledged to work side-by-side with the rest of the world on issues like nuclear proliferation, poverty, economic development in Latin America and the violence in Darfur.

"While we're at it," he said, "we're going to close Guantanamo. And we're going to restore habeas corpus. ... We're going to lead by example _ by not just word but by deed. That's our vision for the future."

Habeas corpus is a tenet of the Constitution that protects people from unlawful imprisonment
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/24/AR2007062401046.html

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Human Rights Should Be Bigger than Politics
Senator Barack Obama delivered this speech on the floor of the US Senate, in reaction to Senate passage of S. 3930, Military Commissions Act of 2006, which approved US torture of detainees and strips Constitutional rights away from detainees.
Senator Obama decries the placement of politics over human rights, and condemns S. 3930. He states, "This is not how a serious Administration would approach the problem of terrorism."
http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/ObamaTorture.htm

excerpts from Obama's statement...




Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4723451

A BEAUTIFUL FIRST FAMILY WHO WILL REFLECT THE TECHNICOLOR OF OUR SOCIETY

But OP poster should go ahead and vote Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton.....as it is close to Castro/Castro. Why should we be any different?

After all, why not run a Dem Iraq War Voter against a Repug Iraq War Voter?
That's the least that one could do, again! :shrug:

:D

And I am glad I am an akron native born and raised. I am a 33 year old white guy who is also college educated (in Ohio.) I'm happy to report that my vote will cancel yours out.

Thanks

That was amazing!

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

Native Cincinnatian.

Scared that Ohioans will actually decide both the primary and general.

I will vote for Obama on May 6th. I am a southern white male, same age as you. But, this is democracy and I think that the Democratic Party is heading in the right direction, whichever way it goes.

I'm sure a lot of people will vote for Obama AND a lot will vote for Hillary.

Save us Ohio!

Please don't be afriad to jump in and help with phone calls... wherever you are!

oops...

:hug:

and I voted for Obama on President's Day -- how appropriate!

I am a white female and guess what? I'm supporting Obama, it has nothing to do with TV, I don't understand that comment. I researched both candidates for a good 6 months before making my choice. read both their books, checked voting records and bill sponsored and co-sponsored.

but I won't be surprised if ohio goes Clinton. I've generally been out of step here in Ohio. I live in Delaware county, major republican stronghold. I will be glad to get a Democrat in the WH. Hopefully Obama can take Texas.

That explains why there are so many female CEOs: you have men like myself who have to be feminist to fill in for the ones that refuse to see the necessity of Solidarity! If the first awesome female candidate comes along and women aren't going to support her, then how can one break tradition? I guarantee you that African Americans have reached solidarity (90% Favor Barack? -no link, sorry) already, does no one see the irony of an inherently acceptable sexism, or at least gender inequality, here? She shouldn't have to make a better speech than him. She has done enough to earn your vote.


I'll give you Barack will be good if he wins, but not as good as Hillary would be. By his own words he's not the strongest at paper skills, etc. We're talking about the Oval Office, and for me the key word is Office. See anything here? It wouldn't matter if the Pope endorsed Obama for me, I'm talking about the Economy here. We have a resume that includes participation in a very nostalgic time of American history, the 90's, which I have every right to want to restore. The restoration argument might have not resonated nationally, but it did with me. I believe that undoing G.W.B is the best thing for America, and a clear, concise answer lies with H.R.C.

You are quite a guy! Thank you for posting!

did you just call me sexist for not supporting Hillary? I'm a HUGE Clinton supporter, voted for Bill twice.

I will vote for who I think will be the best president. I would vote Obama if he was a woman, If he was Latino, or if he was white.
Hillary wouldn't be my first choice if she were a man, if she were black or if she were younger.
I'm not going to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman any more than I would vote Barack just because he's a man.

I think Barack is head and shoulders above Hillary, just look at their campaigns. Hillary started out with the "machine" name recognition and more connections than you could shake a stick at. Obama started his from scratch (I know he had money and connections, but not as much or many). Obama has far outperformed her campaign on EVERY level. she's changing her staff, running out of money, changing her slogans weekly. I think that say a lot for Obamas "lack" of experience...he can get things done!

and his "google for Governement" what a brilliant idea. a step to moving us back to Government for the people and by the people, I don't see any ideas like that coming from Hillary. I want more transparency in government, I want to know where my money is going, I want to know who visits the white house, I don't want my phone company handing over my records without me knowing. I really don't see any of those "new" ideas coming from Clinton.

NOT to mention I have 2 sons and in the next 8 years one will be draft age, one will be close. Do I trust Hillary, based on her voting record? I know people keep harping on that, but she was either "fooled" by GWB--not a good sign, or she really agreed with invading Iraq. A simple apology ie--John Edwards would have smoothed it over somewhat, but she refused to.

And then there's NAFTA. that hasn 't been good for Ohio, at all. do I blame her? she's claiming that as part of her 35 years of elected experience, she has to take the blame along with the praise.

AND...in your vein of thinking, exactly how is a black woman supposed to vote? does she vote against her race or her gender?

the only way to restore anything similar to the 90s is by moving on. we can't recreate the 90s...just ask any of the dot com companies.

oh, by the way, I work in a corporate retail organization, where about 50% of the VP are women. my company was actually started by a woman who moved on to be CEO of Dean & Deluca...

"the restoration argument"

In the words of a brilliant man:
"If by 'liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties --someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal,' then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'".
-JFK.

amen. I'm ready to look ahead...

Not any more than W's presidency was a restoration of the Bush I/Reagan years.

The world and the country has changed a lot in 16 years, particularly since the tech boom ended. That can't be restored out of whole cloth just because a lot of the players from that period return to office. I agree with you that we need to un-fuck the country from the effects and policies of the last 7 years, but we're not going to be able to undo it retroactively. There are just too many new factors at play that didn't exist during the 1990's.

I also have to say that I really reject your premise that Senator Clinton has ever earned my vote. That's the attitude that her campaign is projecting, and it's a real turnoff. She's been my state's senator for seven years, and she still needs to make the case to me as to why I should vote for her. She's basically dead to me for her IWR vote anyway, a decision which, to me, pretty much undoes whatever progressive credentials she may believe she has, as well as any claims to having any kind of sense or judgement. If her claim is true, that she was "duped" by President Shit-For-Brains, then she is too stupid to hold elected office. However, I feel pretty confident that that vote was a calculated decision, whose purpose was basically political expediency. A lot of people are dead because of that vote, and I think that supercedes whatever positives she may have. It would take a LOT for her to earn my vote at this point, and she's simply not effectively making the case for herself.

What a load of bullshit. Come on now. You can do better than that.

You live just up the road from me!

:hi:

are you surrounded by republicans too?

There are tons of Ron Paul signs around here. :rofl:

curious - since you did not say?

:kick:

Vote your choice ...

Voting for Obama. As a matter of fact, my entire family.....as well as most that I work with are also voting for Obama.

Quote by mculator: "don't be pissed at me and everyone else raised in OH when we go Clinton"

Speak for yourself. ONE person.

My family have usually voted republican. Most of them that are still in Ohio work and/or live on Wright Patton Air Force Base, and this year in the wake of Bush, they will vote Hillary if she gets the nomination. Ohio believes in Clinton, don't try to distort the truth. Anyone out there reading this: Ohio is known for picking the winner consistently in the General Election. If we pick Hillary Clinton, she will win the Presidency, if she ends up being nominated. Otherwise, I'll vote Obama, but you can be sure that OH will consider both parties. We are a logical people.

we picked Kerry in 04...

we're known for picking the winner. you know there's no absolutes, including this sentence.

Jeez NY CA NJ and most of the important states are for Hillary, OF COURSE Ohio is going for her!

I'm NOT distorting the truth by any means. Everyone I know is voting for Obama. The only person that I know of who is voting for HRC is a Repub that I work with. He feels that McCain has a better chance of beating HRC than Obama.


"Ohio is known for picking the winner consistently in the General Election."

Damn Straight. We "Should" have President Kerry right now.

BTW....Got a Profile?

from a middle/working class upbringing (mom a nurse, dad a plumber) who flies the flag, hunts deer in the fall, Freemason, Shriner, and bible reader. I don't wear crocks or burkies, and I never drink Starbucks coffee (or any coffee for that matter). I drive an American made car, and I love baseball, apple pie, and my mother. Oh by the way, I'm definitely not a trust fund baby.
So I guess I don't quite fit that silly profile spewed out by that mean-spirited, bone-headed Hillary surrogate the other day and which, as far as I can see, has not been denounced by the Hillary campaign. I hope Obama kicks the crap out of her in the next round of primaries just like we did up here in Maine and send her campaign packing once and for all. And I'm going to keep doing everything I can to make sure that's just what happens.

You seem to talk about Obama more than your candidate in your endorsement.

And I already voted for Barack Obama.

I already lost two different jobs, closely related to manufacturing, to NAFTA.

Sherrod Brown warned the country about NAFTA and how it would destroy the manufacturing economy of this state years ago. The UFCW, which I was a member of for twenty-five years, warned us about NAFTA and how it would imperil workers of not only the U.S., but the poor in Mexico.

Give a Clinton another crack at it?

Not while I can do something about it.

I'm no gambler but I like the mental game of looking at past performances and picking the most likely winner. But very often when I look at them in the walking ring or jogging out on the track, I see something that makes me think that the favorite is not on top of his game. I might even be tempted to put some money down on the horse most likely to upset--the one who looks sharp and focused.

Those are the times that I actually win.

What I want out of this primary is a candidate who can beat the Republicans. This country cannot stand another republican administration. I'm going to support the candidate who looks most likely to cruise to victory.

:hi:

However, I was born and raised in Columbus (Go Bucks). Same age, but I'm still working on finishing my education. I also picked my candidate on paper and through research on the internets. I chose differently though. ;) I think Hillary ends up winning Ohio, but I think it's going to be really close.

one of those young people that Hillary thinks is lazy...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/15/politics/main1618081.shtml

Well maybe not you, since you are supporting her.

and i think the media INTENTIONALLY wanted me to believe she was inevitable!!! :) Duped into laziness.

are you sure you mean to reply to me. I was talking about how Hillary said that young people don't work hard and want everything on a silver platter.

thank you for your critical thinking skills and self-assuredness.

and I will be casting my vote for Hillary!!!

Cincy...now in Columbus. Cincy is much prettier!!

I'm going to vote this week..taking my 79 year-old neighbor down to the BoE and we're both voting for HRC.

Are you in the Congressional first or second???? I love Vic Wulsin!! I worked for her when I was down there.

Chabot must GO...how pathetic is he???

Amen to that!

I picked my candidate by "pixelated" paper:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/candidatequiz/

I bet a lot of people would be surprised by how little they really know of their candidates and why they're choosing them :)

degree is in because it doesn't matter. You are impressive and I hope you write a lot. Oh by the way I do think you picked the right one.

Mail In Voting

spent 20+ years of my life there.

Gobama.

Stand firm...the lemmings have already left for the cliff, glad you did not follow.

the sole county in SW Ohio to go for Kerry/Edwards in 04.

I love that. Your area has taken some strong hits over the years and you folks are still standing. I had the great luxury of hanging out with some folks who had attended a famous piano school in your area lo these many long years ago.

And you folks have one of the most under-rated art museums around there by the river.

All good wishes.

and other trade policies that have just devistated communities all across the state....

If you believe the polls though, you're far from alone.

Tell us about Hillary's policies.

No, and I'm past the gender thing... I'm a chessplayer, I know that at least mentally, the genders are equal, so I don't like those sorts of implications and stereotypes. You dont gotta be PC, but don't think that Obama is the way to go just because you're a guy, either.

from "TV" is mindless snark. I don't have TV dear, and I brought up my 21 year old son without it. He's also for Obama. I don't just have a college education. I have two MA's. So much for that. I'm obviously better educated than you. And don't be surprised if OH goes to Obama. Either of them could win there. And just so you're more informed, OH isn't the only state voting on March 4. TX also has a say. So does RI and my state of Vermont. Vermont has more college educated voters than the average state and though we may be small, we're often in the vanguard- we'll go strongly for Obama. If Hillary gets over 35% she'll be lucky. Early voting trends in TX bode well for Obama. And don't forget, if Hill loses EITHER OH or TX, she's gone, baby gone.

it's like a clean brisk wind. not much content, but clean enough for show business.

ust because you're so ill informed that you don't know the content, don't assume that others are equally uneducated. Repeating mindless memes does not make them any the truer.

...How's that working out? Hmmmm? :shrug:

:eyes:

A bourgeois dream, those two.

Sorry dude, but Ohio is one of the few states in the country that DECLINES in population each year. Wonder why?

:kick:

That's what my phone calls to registered Dems would indicate.

We don't have on site voter registration either, so last minute voters won't have an effect.

Lima was quite anti Hillary... but mostly McCain for some odd reason (odd for a Dem call list I thought???)

Portsmouth is BIG time Bill country and I'd be surprised if they go Obama. (Bill's out there today!)

Cleveland, bless their hearts.... they aren't really Ohioans. LOL. I don't know what they are.... but they tend to be outlyers in these parts.

and thanks for posting :-)

Hillary has good support here in Ohio. She will likely win our state over Obama... And, better than that, her Margin to beat McCain here is wider than his.

It is true that, as a general rule, Ohioans don't go for flash. We like substance. But we are VERY good a picking presidents. That's just an historical fact.


And we tend to disdain frontrunners. Another historical fact.

Born in Columbus 32 years ago. Good to see that Ohio is going more blue than ever, after being burned by Repug corruption for so long. I'm voting Dem in November, no matter who is our nominee. :kick:

:toast:

From someone from your neighboring state of Michigan, make that vote count, mine didn't! :mad:

I'm a white male, 40's. I already voted for Obama (absentee vote).

and am also for Hillary!

Also a white male!

Most everyone I talk to in Toledo is for Hillary by a large margin.

Ohioans are not being fooled by empty words.

after our election was Stolen with the help of Ken Blackwell, the SoS as well as the Director of Ohio's Bush/Cheney campaign, you wouldn't say that.

We organized an 88 county recount...went to DC to protest Ohio's Electoral Votes...Barbara Boxer stood with us. To this day people in Ohio are working to prove the Election was stolen. Check out Free Press and Mr. Fritakis in Columbus, Ohio.

Not saying Wisconsin didn't hurt, but that's about the only one that did, in my opinion. Penn will go Clinton as well. Hopefully some of his supers will change their minds about the fad soon.

You can state your support for your candidate, and maybe even try to make your case for her, without being sarcastic and implying that people who support Obama are somehow less intelligent than yourself and less able to make a sound decision.

An Obama supporter says a Clinton supporter is obnoxious. Finally!

She is also from Ohio, and is a big Hillary Clinton supporter. She wanted me to tell "the blogs" that she's upset that the TV polls always want people to text or vote online. She and all her friends are big Hillary supporters, but none of them know how to do that! She thinks that the strong Ohio support for Hillary isn't being reflected on TV news. So... I'm telling the blogs. :) My brother in Ohio is in his mid-twenties, & he's for Hillary as well. IMO people in Ohio are a lot less concerned with who's cool & more concerned with who will get the job done. Hillary will win Ohio.

That must be awesome. Lots of elbow room, and all.

And I'm for Barack Obama 100%. I appreciate your enthusiasm for your candidate, but I'm feeling better by the day that Obama will win my state.