Why I'm REALLY hoping the Dem nomination will be wrapped up soon.

It's not because I'm a glassy-eyed cult-of-personality Obamite

It's not because I don't want the rest of the country to get their chance to vote (they can vote anyway)

It's not because I'm "afraid Hillary will take the nom at the convention"

It's not even because I think the continuing battle is "doing the Repugs' dirty work for them".

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Here's the reason.

Edwards dropped out 3.5 weeks ago.
Kucinich dropped out 4.5 weeks ago.
Richardson dropped out 6.5 weeks ago.
Biden and Dodd dropped out 7+ weeks ago.

Now for those of you who may not be paying attention, a lot of the DU'ers who supported those candidates have either stopped posting here altogether, or do so rarely and still haven't changed their avatars or come out in support of the two remaining candidates.

And these were candidates that, in reality, we all knew probably did not have much chance of winning the nomination. We just didn't want to admit it.

So the pain lingers, the so-called grief cycle has yet to be completed for many after (for some) over 7 weeks of disillusionment. How many of those people are likely right now to be saying good things to their friends, neighbors, co-workers, family about either Obama or Clinton? How many of them, if the election were to be held next week, would be excited and energized and ready to get out and vote (and get others out to vote)?

Now just think how much harder it will be for Hillary Clinton's supporters to get over their hard feelings when she actually DID have a VERY good chance of winning (and many still think she does).

Yes, it's probably over; and yes, many of them are cursing me while reading these words and denying the truth to themselves. That's beside the point. If it were the other way around, what I'm saying would still be true - and that is, we Democrats need time to get over the bitterness of having our candidate of choice lose the nomination. We need to heal from the wounds incurred during this battle, because in many cases we've become so wrapped up in our candidate that a barb aimed at them feels like a barb aimed at us. We need time to get used to the idea that there is still a candidate out there who -- while they're not perfect and we've been attacking them mercilessly for months -- whether we like it or not, they are now the Democratic nominee.

Perhaps April 22 (the PA primary) would not be too close to November for this process to take place. Perhaps even June 7 wouldn't be too close. But I'm damn sure August 25-28 is WAY too close. Less than 10 weeks from Nov. 4th. A contested nomination at the Democratic National Convention would be a disaster. The longer this process gets dragged out, the more chance there is of it happening (I just recently heard that Puerto Rico may be awarding all its delegates winner-take-all. If true, or even if not, it's just another glimmer of hope for die-hard Clinton supporters.)

And let's face it, at this point a contested nomination at the Convention is the ONLY scenario in which Hillary Clinton can win, with the battle over FL and MI thrown in there to boot. I'd much rather have the nomination decided so we can include MI and FL and seat their delegates in the interest of party unity without it being a huge controversy.

I'm not calling for Hillary Clinton to drop out.

I'm just saying, I hope the vote goes Obama's way on March 4 and April 22, to the point where everyone can agree that the people have spoken, and where the wounded can begin to heal.

will be that Hillary, win or lose, will continue spouting venom and her supporters will copy her.

Not the kind of response I was hoping for but thanks for your input.

Riiggght.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to be reconciled with some people on these boards. I don't want to be associated with them in any way. And if they continue spouting venom, as some of them are STILL doing to this day about Edwards, they can take their candidate and themselves out of my sight.

Hateful shit like that is one of the reasons Obama and his "supporters" just aren't the "unity" crowd they claim to be.

Seems simple enough.

Your smell precedes you. x(


Ignore list time.

have thrown at his opponents?

It's probably just harder for me, as an Obama supporter, to see this venom. As I have said before, I don't doubt it exists. But

call Bo out on his fliers, finally, she should have called him out along time ago. He has been nasty for a couple of months and anytime anyone sets him straight, he whines, race. I'm sick of it.

I also don't agree that, if and when the time comes for either of them to be nominated, that the
other would continue to campaign against them. That would not be a very smart professional move
and they're both quite intelligent, so you are way off base on this one also.

The back biting and name calling from BOTH camps has been really obnoxious and I hope that both
camps will remember that they will be NEEDING the other camps supporters votes, come November!!

In the end....we are all in this together. Better to start acting like adults now.

Just seems to have brought out the worst in everyone and turned into a flamefest. Maybe it's the time of day.

Nice idealism. And I commend you for that. But we live in a world of realism and Hillary Clinton and her supporters ain't going anywhere soon!

to those desperately in need of some kind of hopeful news.

And you have just illustrated my point. Her supporters are NOT going anywhere soon, certainly not to the Obama camp. That's why the nomination needs to be decided sooner rather than later, to give them a chance to warm to the idea of someone else. 'cause like you say, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

you would be more somber about your candidates chances.

I know we will elect a Dem. I'm just so very sad we narrowed the field so quickly on the whim of the media to have their two "first". I think Edwards would have had a chance If he had received the same coverage. The truth is he got little or no coverage after taking second place in Iowa. I have one consolation and that is both Obama and Clinton are now paying attention to Edwards message. So let it run it's course, we will come together and support our nominee in November. I only wish all the hateful comments and half truths would stop, that's RW politics not ours.

Nor Biden or Richardson, actually. But the hateful comments do need to stop.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Not many, I wager.

Not with all the crap on this forum.