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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:19 AM
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mika b., willie wonka, joe scar ... the rest of the usual suspects
all obamanites and obamalites ... why are you wanting hillary clinton to get out before the finish line ... it seems you are all afraid that she might just pull a come from behind win over the finish line.

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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:20 AM
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1. Hmm..I heard Joe this morning..he was saying as an analyst..he likes this Clinton..and
I didn't hear him say, she should drop out of the race, at all.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:34 AM
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8. i wonder what kind of trick he has up his sleeves ...
he and mika and willie wonka ... they have been chisseling her to pieces up to this morning. something is up ... i don't trust their sudden change of heart/face/philosophy on air.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:38 AM
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12. "he and mika and willie wonka ... they have been chisseling her to pieces up to this morning"
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 09:41 AM by NDambi
sorry, I didn' see that at all..what show were you watching "Faux and Friends?"

They did no such thing...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:46 AM
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17. no. they didn't do it this morning. they have done it up to now. so, what is up their sleeves?
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:54 AM
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24. Why does the MSM do anything?
For ratings..and too don the appearence of fairness! That is why they switch from side to side, from time to time (I'm speaking Dem MSM, of course).

Just look at how Tweety turned on Watson, the Obama supporter last week and Clinton supporter, Tubbs-Jones slide on the very same question. Up until that point, he seemed to be pro-Obama all the way (at least IMHO), then he got tough..and flipped da script! LOL!

Now that Barack is the front runner, it's his turn to be beat down and HRC turn to be praised.

It's not hard to figure really.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:16 AM
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43. NDambi, you have to be careful with Joe
He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. In other words watch your back because he will stab you. Also, he is a staunch right wing republican that worships Bush. This is why he got his job on MSNBC because of the 2000 election and he was involved in the hanging chad. He's from my town in florida and the only things that ever came out of his mouth were anti-Clinton. Reason being Bill was stepping down from office and he used all the Lewinsky mess as ammunition. Back then he acted a lot like Limbaugh. I'm not kidding, he is awful.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:28 AM
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i don't disagree...i even said i prefer him be out of the closet at least we know what he is..
same for others like Buchanan.

In the end, I still enjoy watching Morning Joe from time to time..

Btw, I don't think he worships Bush much anymore..but he makes me barf with the way he inject, Ronald Reagan's name at every turn..

thanks for the response..
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:28 AM
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46. i don't disagree...i even said i prefer him be out of the closet at least we know what he is..
same for others like Buchanan.

In the end, I still enjoy watching Morning Joe from time to time..

Btw, I don't think he worships Bush much anymore..but he makes me barf with the way he inject, Ronald Reagan's name at every turn..

thanks for the response..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:22 AM
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2. I want her out because she no longer has the possibility of
winning- barring a miracle. I'm not afraid of that happening. It's simply time to move on and fight JMac and the repukes. She's done. Why can't you hillybots accept that?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:36 AM
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9. i think you have wanted her out since day one, cali.
at least that is what i think from the posts you've posted before... and in someways, the way you end your post today "why can't you hillbots" ... attests to what i say. no. she should not get out to give you pleasure and your man a free ride to the finish line. she should do it the democratic way. put up a fight till there is no moer fight. go right up to the finish line. she might just finish ahead of your guy.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:53 AM
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22. You'd be wrong. I didn't want her out until she lost Wisconsin
and YOU started with the name calling. I simply threw it back. And she's done. It's just a matter of time before her campaign gives it's last dying gasp.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:55 AM
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26. can you tell me where i started with the name calling?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:11 AM
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40. "obamanites" and "obamalites"
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:13 AM
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42. obama lites are those republicans who are voting for obama now but will change their vote to mccain
should obama get on the General Election ticket. Obamanites are those who follow him as they would follow a cult leader.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:24 AM
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44. how many angels on top of your pin there?
this sort of lame justifying doesn't fool anyone with a functional brain. YOU started in on the name calling. YOU got it back. Deal with it. And deal with Hill destroying her campaign and credibility. Because that's what she's done. It's over. And with any luck she'll leave the Senate. She only ran for it to feed her presidential ambitions.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:11 PM
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47. i suppose you need to have the last word cali ... i have not gone after you .. you
don't like what i wrote and seem to want to go after me. here is an angel for you.O8) it might soothe your tantrum.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:24 AM
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3. Morning Joe is on my blacklist now.
It will be interesting to see how fast that slimy worm turns IF Obama gets the nom.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:37 AM
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11. you are right .
joe scar is a slimy worm and i think mika and willie wonka were just playing up to his words this morning as they usually do.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:27 AM
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4. Mika totally supporting Hillary this am.
Two guests questioned Hillary's tactics this weekend but Mika, heavily pushing the MSNBC debate tomorrow, backed Hillary 100%.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:39 AM
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13. what is up with mika?
why her sudden change of heart? or ... has she really had a change of heart?
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:49 AM
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19. Round 2 - Clinton better equipped....Obama hypocritical
Now the topic is Obama with the same 2 guests. Mika using the 'some might say' approach regarding her (Mika) negative comments about Obama. Again, she mentioned 'tomorrow night', pushing the debate.

Seems like an MSNBC tactic to promote the debate...it's not over...tune in to the debate to see them fight it out!!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:54 AM
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25. that is it! that is what they are up to. a tactic to promote the debate!
thank you for connecting the dots for me! it is so clear, now that you mention it. these people have no absolute shame. they will be moping the floors with her again the morning after the debate and even before then, the night right after the debate.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:58 AM
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She is indeed promoting the debate at every turn..no surprise there..
I'm no Mika fan..she doesn't seem to take the news seriously..when it needs to be..but that's just my opinion, of course. I'm really a fan of Nora O'Donnell's delivery...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:06 AM
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33. yes ... nora's deliver is quite like that of a stinging bee gone mad in her beehive.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:07 AM
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36. ha ha...yeah but I like her..I'm a little weird I guess
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:09 AM
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38. O:-)
:)
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:27 AM
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5. Scarborough was saying that he thinks this is what Clinton should have
been doing all along and he likes this new approach. He was very supportive of what she said over the weekend.

I didn't hear Willie express an opinion either way -- he was busy being impressed by having Huckabee in the studio.

Mika did keep pointing out the Sunday mocking, saying she thought that this was a mistake because Clinton was putting down supporters as well as Obama himself.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:37 AM
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10. The Willie express, toot toot.
Thanks for the laugh.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:42 AM
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14. i do agree clinton should have been herself all along ...
but i wonder what is up with joe scar's defense of her new stance. i don't much trust the guy.

willie impressed with having "the Huckster" as Mika calls him on the show? Maybe willie was playing sidekick to mika's all huckabee all the time.

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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:02 AM
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30. Well, what can he really do..even if he changes his stance again...he makes it very clear..
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:03 AM by NDambi
he's not a democrat! At least, he's out of the closet and you know what he is..unlike so many other closet conservatives and republicans that play the media pundit game!

I'd much prefer those like Joe and Buchanan..be out and about...not hidden and taking pot shots at dem candidates...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:07 AM
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35. i think you have a point!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:53 AM
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23. Joe hates the Clintons...
and he knows it made Hillary look like an angry, bitter woman. Why wouldn't he like it.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:58 AM
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27. Actually, that was my thought when I heard him this morning. He has
been so anti-Clinton throughout this whole thing, and suddenly he thinks she's running a great campaign? Something was weird about it.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:08 AM
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37. good to know someone else wondered too!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:03 AM
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31. in my mind, anger can be a good thing.
1) a long time ago, back in cuba, the woman who cleaned my aunt's house stole some jewelry from my cousins and they took her to court ... the accused who lied through her teeth as she was questioned by the judge, remained cold, cool, calm and collected ... which prompted my cousins to burst out in anger in the court.

the judge rule that their burst of anger pointed to the truth.

2) as a social worker for a refugee service many years ago, i accompanied a marielito entrant to the unemployment office to apply for unemployment benefits after he was fired from the baker where he worked. the unemployment office who was interviewing read for him (and i translated) the reasons why the baker claimed he had fired the marielito entrant ... the baker alleged that the marielito was lazy, did not work, and painted him in a very bad light. when the marielito heard what his boss was claiming against him, he became irate. the unemployment office told me that the marielito's outburst proved to him that the one who was telling the truth was the marielito and proceeded to give him unemployment benefits.

so, you see ... for reasons like those two i cited above and for other reasons as well, i do believe hillary was in her full right to express her anger at the obama camp in the way she did... and i will see him cower in tomorrow night's debate if she is given the chance to confront him directly on that.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:30 AM
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6. I Watch Mike And Mike In The Morning
Who are these people of which you speak?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:43 AM
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15. same ones you watch.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:48 AM
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18. I Was Being A Bit But Not Totally Facetious
My interest in sports waxs and wanes according to the success of my favorite players and teams...But, yeah, when I see Hillary being beat up in the press or anywhere I take it personally...That's why I don't watch MSNBC much... But they are not unique in their Hillary hatred...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:51 AM
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21. no. they are not ... that is why i say "and the rest of the usual suspects"
those include people like campbell brown, john king, dana bash, wolf blitzer, who could forget candy crowley and even now these days keith olberman and rachel maddow ... and who in the media really is, or has the guts to say out loud that they are, for hillary?

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:31 AM
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7. Were you in there fighting to convince Edwards to stay in the race?
Silly question, I know.

HRC's campaign has gone from Damage Control to Work Toward Widespread Damage. That is not helpful to anyone. If that's all they got, they need to rethink everything.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:44 AM
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16. another glove to beat clinton down with. yours.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 09:45 AM by flordehinojos
she seems to be punching right back, you know.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:50 AM
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20. I Wanted Edwards To Stay In The Race
It's apparent now he could not have won though... I do wonder who he would have helped by staying in the race...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:04 AM
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32. good question. i do not know the answer.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:59 AM
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28. The math shows that she can't catch up...sorry to break it to ya.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:06 AM
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34. She needs a blow out in Texas and Ohio..I just don't see it happening..
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:10 AM
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39. was it nevada that they said the same thing about?
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:24 AM
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45. But when was the Nevada primary?
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:25 AM by NDambi
The numbers don't bode well for her...and I think, if she loses in Texas or Ohio, or doesn't beat him by a wide margain , many in the party will be pressuring her to step down, so Obama can game up for McCain and the repugs! Even some of her own supporters like Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is speaking up...

Also, Bill said to Texans: "If you vote for her, she'll get the nomination, if you don't, I don't think she will!" That came from the Big Dog, himself.

Hey, btw it's nice to exchange "nicely" with you. I appreciate it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:00 AM
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29. morning joe has about 200,000 veiwers
in the real world no one is watching them...the abc,cbs,nbc morning shows will have at least 5-6 million each day.those shows are the ones that "shape" opinions not joe in the morning
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:12 AM
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41. Good Point
The hard core political junkies watch him...
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