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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:38 AM
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Obama Knocks Clinton, But Wouldn't Ax NAFTA

Appealing to union voters in a dry wall manufacturing plant in this crucial primary state, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Sunday afternoon said that even though he has repeatedly said the passage of NAFTA was bad for the country, he would not try to repeal it.

"I don't think its realistic for us to repeal NAFTA," he said during a town hall meeting on the economy.


He argued arguing that because the trade deal had been passed more than a decade ago, it was entrenched in the economy, and any attempt to repeal it "would actually result in more job loss ... than job gains."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4336481
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:41 AM
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1. Well, there you go. Obama is business as usual...
Now Obama-philiacs, why is he better than Team Clinton?

Because he gives slightly better speeches?

Oh, OK.

PS: I will vote for him over McCain. Would you vote for Clinton over McCain?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:45 AM
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3. "Because he gives slightly better speeches?" No, because he would completely restructure it
The Clintons' NAFTA was a disastrous bill. Obama isn't against free trade, he's criticizing Hillary for her disingenuous stance on a horrible bill.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:43 AM
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2. There -are- alternatives..
.. unless you depend on Reeps for donations and votes.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:54 AM
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4. both candidates have said it needs to be modified
there`s no way to repeal the entire nafta bill without a nasty disruption in all three economies.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:55 AM
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5. Obama continuously "triangulates" messages. Works in half
truths just like an accomplished politician. He hopes the masses
will think he is against trade because he is knocking Nafta.

When he later promotes trade, he will say. I did not say anything
about trade I said Nafta. Political Doublespeak at its best.

Obama is just another politician and we had better inform the world.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:19 AM
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6. Senator Clinton seems to...
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:20 AM by stillcool47
have a habit of supporting policies she later says are a mistake, but she doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for her position. So much for having good judgment on day one.
Obama Fires Back At Clinton On NAFTA Support

LORAIN, Ohio (AP) ― Barack Obama accused Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday of trying to walk away from a long record of support for NAFTA, the free trade agreement that he said has cost 50,000 jobs in Ohio, site of next week's primary.

At the same time, he said attempts to repeal the trade deal "would probably result in more job losses than job gains in the United States."

One day after Clinton angrily accused him of distorting her record on the North American Free Trade Agreement in mass mailings, the Illinois senator was eager to rekindle the long-distance debate, using passages from the former first lady's book as well as her own words.

"Ten years after NAFTA passed, Senator Clinton said it was good for America," Obama said. "Well, I don't think NAFTA has been good for America — and I never have."

"The fact is, she was saying great things about NAFTA until she started running for president," Obama told an audience at a factory that makes wall board, located in a working class community west of Cleveland.

"A couple years after it passed, she said NAFTA was a 'free and fair trade agreement' and that it was 'proving its worth.' And in 2004, she said, "I think, on balance, NAFTA has been good for New York and America," he said.

http://wjz.com/national/obama.clinton.nafta.2.661710.html


Asked how other countries should interpret his position, Obama responded that he supported free trade but wanted it to be fair.

"What the world should interpret is my consistent position, which is I believe in trade," he said after meeting with workers at a manufacturing plant in Ohio.

"I just want to make sure that the rules of the road apply to everybody and they are fair and that they reflect the interests of workers and not just corporate profits."


NAFTA went into force in 1994 while former President Bill Clinton held office.

Hillary Clinton, who called the pact a success in her memoir, says she has a plan to review and fix it and accuses Obama of complaining but not having a proposal to alter it.

Obama said he opposed NAFTA from the start and U.S. workers were not the only ones to suffer from its effects. Wages and benefits in Mexico had not been improved by the treaty, he said.

Looking forward, Obama said the World Trade Organization's Doha round of trade talks should have provisions that reject child labor and poor environmental standards while creating opportunities for developing nations to sell their goods to wealthy countries.

"When we think about the Doha round of trade agreements, for instance, I think it is perfectly appropriate for us to say that very poor countries should be able to export into wealthier countries on a basis that allows them to lift their standard of living," he said.

"We've got to have some minimal standards and we've got to have enforcement around things like safety standards."

Obama said ignoring the effect that trade agreements were having on workers would only lead to more protectionist tendencies in both the Republican and Democratic parties, which, in turn, would hurt the economy.

http://www.forbes.com/reuters/feeds/reuters/2008/02/24/2008-02-25T001619Z_01_N24147277_RTRIDST_0_USA-POLITICS-OBAMA-TRADE-PIX.html
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