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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:02 AM Original message |
Absolutely NO PROOF anyone from Clinton camp connected in anyway to 'the photo' |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Then why can't they deny it. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No political campaign |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. They need to deny it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. wrong it is absolutely standard in political campaigns |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. Then they deny it outright - as I have seen many campaigns do |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Is there a direct quote? It's a reporters trick. "No comment!"="They didn't say they weren't Nazis" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "The Clinton campaign did not deny the charge, but did not comment further." |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. What is the photo's history? Was it published back when it was taken? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Doesn't matter. The Clinton camp is the one pushing it now. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Proof? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Her non-denial response. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. Clinton/McCain campaigns are connected, see link |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. I did not know that. It is very interesting now. |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. "Clinton's campaign did not deny its staffers distributed the photo" nt |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. "Obama Camp Has not Denied They Are Setting Up Clinton With Fake Story!" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Clinton camp has commented on the story. They did not deny they were behind it. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
59. Obama's campaign is playing loose with words |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. My quote was taken from an online article - where'd you get yours? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Your quote isn't from the Clinton camp, it's a reporter's comment. |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I said it was from an online article - reporting on the Clinton's camp lack of denial. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. WRONG |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You have proof? Link or slink, as we say here on DU. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. Facts Hurt Their Wee Little Heads. Go Easy On Them. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
8. hey, Drudge said so |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. And Raw Story. And Politico. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. are you counting politico as a reliable source? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. And is Raw Story also RW now? "Update: Clinton campaign doesn't deny distributing photo" |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
100. everything is right wing |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
107. shame on Raw Story for using Drudge. (eom) |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Without any proof or original reporting, they are just saying "Drudge says" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. How about "Raw Story says?" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
11. She hasn't denied it. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. "Obama hasn't denied planting the story with his gay lover, Matt Drudge" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. The difference is that Obama was not specifically asked about it, nor did he send out |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
105. Yet that's not really a proof, is it? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. "There is no proof," |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
18. Rumor against one's candidate - proof required. Rumor against opposing candidate - who needs proof? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
20. What's he so upset about? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. It's a cool pic of his *finally* getting some Foreign Policy experience. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Still no proof. Remember this Only ONE Camp was sure to have posessed thisn pic. |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
27. After Hill's Negativity in the Past Days ... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Ah, good ol' "Guilty until proven Innocent" - Like Whitewater, yes? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
81. Hello..... |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
28. did you see the non-denial |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. If your camp wasn't responsible wouldn't you want to get that out ASAP? |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
29. Obama's "foreign policy" advisors don't talk foreign policy |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
33. Did HRC take that photo? I don't get it... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Nope. She's just pushing it. Apparently SC didn't teach her that race-baiting doesn't work. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. No proof it has anything to do with Clinton, just more gossip from the Obamas. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Other than their non-denial and the fact that three sources have reported it as such, yes. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. 1 source. The other 2 are just reporting about Drudge. What, and DU makes 4? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Nope. Those are the three that are reporting on Maggie Williams' email. |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
82. If "Harry and Louise" don't get you for him acting like a republican from the 90's |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
34. I can't give Clinton the benefit of the doubt on this one |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Gravity - no one anywhere knew anything about this photo before today? |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. point: who is pushing it |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Drudge - and he "spiced up" his find by claiming the Clinton camp was involved. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. So... if yesterday you google/imaged "Obama" how long would it have taken to find this pic? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. MP, your two defenses are mutually incompatible. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Is English your second language? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It's now hit CBS and ABC. I'm sure everyone but you is wrong, though. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Proof Hillary Clinton sent this as an email to Matt Drudge is on CBS and ABC? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:50 AM Original message |
Nope. Her non-denial is. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Drudge |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Drudge - the slimeball who broke the Lewinsky scandal and tried to destroy the Clintons. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. The Lewinsky scandal was true |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. So Hillary is teaming up with the slimeball who tried to destroy her family? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. The Clintons are not known for being especially honor-bound. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. The family was not destroyed , but greatly harmed - by Bill Clinton's actions |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
69. Well, Drudge is saying that he got it from them. If he's lying that's slander and they should sue. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. I can't dismiss this yet |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
46. And we're supposed to take the word of a campaign run by Republicans? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No Clinton official has made any comment at all, Skids.. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Maggie Williams is not a Clinton official now? What a strange world you live in. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
85. Quote? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Sure. From Raw Story: |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
53. The non-denial is telling. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. They have made no statement at all, right? So they're guilty? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No, they have made a statement. It did not include a denial. Jesus, try following the story. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I repeat. What is it they didn't deny? The content of the Drudge Report story? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
61. Then they should sue Matt Drudge for saying they did, right? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Did he say they "did"? Did you see what he wrote? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Yes. He stated that they were circulating that picture. If they aren't, that's libel. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. My bad, Libel, I called it slander in another post. nt |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Internally. An email exhange between some staff members |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Oh Boy! Overzealous Staffer makes a return! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Yeah, amazing how s/he keeps getting rehired! nt |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
77. Quote? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. "Clinton Staffers Circulate 'Dressed' Obama." Did you even look at the Drudge headline? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
74. Hillary Clinton woos man (Drudge) who nearly ruined her husband |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. More no proof gossip from the DUbama Gossipteers. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Nonsense. You are more desperate than Hillary. She, in fact, circulated the "terrorist group" story. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Did you *see* the dress that tramp down the block wore to Church?? Sat in the front pew, too! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Hillary is in damage control mode. n/t |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
79. If she did not do it, then who did? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Drudge. The story sells better if it hints it might be from the Clintons. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I believe the photo was published just under a month ago. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I know I've seen it before. Most likely right here on DU. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. So, Drudge 'heard gossip' that a staffer had sent a photo to a staffer, and googled up this pic? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
95. DRUDGE DEBUNKED - photo was in 2/4/08 National Enquirer, not secretly held by Clinton Camp |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
96. don't look at this!!!! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
98. "Muslim! Cocaine! Plagiarism! Snub!" |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Only "none" with the Cult Members. Thinking Democrats know she is very credible, |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. don't bogart the kool-aid ;) |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I *really* like your ass-on-a-platter pic, AK. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. . |
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