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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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McCain has already won
He won oh a couple years back when he signed on to the then PNAC which has now moved on to another organization but the fact is he is part of the master plan and has signed the list of the New World Order or what ever you want to call these elites. The PNAC or NeoCons have infiltrated every level of government and most impressively the top levels. Presidential elections are not decided by the popular vote which I'm sure you all know, Actually Andrew Jackson started the popular vote which would tell you something right there if you have ever researched him at all.

Another so called election and another scam and the media can sum it all up with the country was not ready for a black man or a woman, yeah Bravo freaking perfect.

We the sheep.... cough... cough..choke
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:22 PM
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1. McCain is a 71 year old man who has already had one cancer bout and who shrimp hugged Bush
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:36 PM by melody
He has ZERO chance of winning against Obama.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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3. Unless they steal it for him too
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:48 PM
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26. Another Stolen Election is What the OP Is Predicting
Another so called election and another scam and the media can sum it all up with the country was not ready for a black man or a woman, yeah Bravo freaking perfect.


With the sort of polling we are seeing now, that is the most likely outcome.

It will take a Democratic landslide to win. Anything less will be stolen.


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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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4. Shrimp hug!
LOL! :rofl: :spray: :rofl:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:59 PM
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22. Shrimp hug! (snicker)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:58 PM
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29. Err... I hope people aren't making fun of his inability to lift his arms?
And that if they are, they don't know how he got that way?
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:15 PM
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33. Just never heard the term 'shrimp hug' before.
I thought it was funny. I do not think torture is funny and would never hug anyone who condoned it. It puzzzles me that McCain can.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:51 PM
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46. Hell, no! A shrimp hug is a term for a showbiz hug.
I wouldn't make fun of someone's disability, not even a Republican.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 PM
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5. McCain is a 71 year old man
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:36 PM
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20. Sorry, hit the wrong key lol n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 PM
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7. 71...just FYI. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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8. His only chance is to steal it.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:43 PM by tridim
And we certainly have precedent for that.

Our only chance is to run Obama because he beats McCain by an unstealable margin.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:30 PM
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18. Edwards beat McCain nation wide but he was booted before his campaign got off the ground.
Wonder why that was? Oh yeah, he was against big corps and TPTB.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:29 PM
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14. He has zero chance of winning against any of OUR candidates /nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:56 PM
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21. Which means we REALLY have to worry about who his VP pick is. nt
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:31 PM
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23. Which means we have nothing to worry about at all n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:50 PM
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27. We Could Get McCain in 2009 and Fuckabee or Some Other Fundie Wacko in 2010
Damn right I'm scared.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:11 PM
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31. As I said, not everyone is inspired by fear ... I think remaining optimistic while focused is best
Being scared gets some of us nothing but ulcers and hopelessness.

BTW, are you the Andy Tiedye from Ebay? If so, my husband loves your shirts.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:57 PM
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28. After two stolen elections, I can't be sanguine about this one,
even if Obama is the nominee. If it's close enough to steal, they WILL steal it, and the real power won't in invested in McCain, but in his VP. That's how Bushco works, and has worked since '80.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:08 PM
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30. Which is why we need to work hard and be hopeful
Not everyone is best inspired by fear.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:46 AM
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35. If They Can't Do an '88, They'll Do a '68
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 04:49 AM by AndyTiedye
(If they think they can't beat Obama, they'll shoot him. The ensuing riots would make a fine pretext for all those emergency powers).

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:50 PM
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45. They don't shoot Presidential candidates anymore
They character assassinate them. The Bush monsters have learned the hard way that when you murder public figures,
you make of them martyrs. The ensuing riots that would happen could not be put down, would not be limited to mere
external insurrection, and would destroy the economic engine of the country.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:25 PM
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2. All true.
x( And if either Kucinich or Edwards had gotten the nom, then the media would have said the country was not ready for a progressive or populist President. Again x(
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 PM
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6. I smell a Freeper!!!!!!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:32 PM
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19. Wash your face.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:17 PM
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34. Omfg
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 08:17 PM by oktoberain
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:thumbsup:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:39 PM
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25. A Freeper Would Not Accuse the Repigs of Planning to Steal the Election
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:25 PM
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38. WRONG
Very WRONG so far from FREEPER its insane, what do I believe and know, well I know that our present government is a shame for the World banks and the elections are just shows for TV. I'm not going to waste anymore time explaining The Real World!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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9. Then don't bother posting anymore
on this site which is *about* politics. If you believe politics is irrelevant, go back to watching reruns of Space Cruiser Yamato or whatever it is you do in your spare time.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:27 PM
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39. oh insults
I like it, because instead of actually figuring out what I'm saying and coming up with an argument for or against it, you tell me to get lost..SO DEMOCRATIC.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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10. I disagree.
By November, the economy is going to be THE issue, and McCain has already shown (and even self-admitted) his weakness with numbers. I suspect that the history of the Keating 5 is also going to spend some more time under the spotlight; whether he was cleared or not, McCain must carry the stigma of the scandal.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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11. That's very nice. Here's a rabbit with a pancake on its head.

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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:28 PM
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13. Hi-larious
Thanks for the laugh!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 PM
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12. So, are you planning a revolution?
Joining an armed rebellion? Doing ANYTHING? Sorry, but if you believe all of that, you're just as much of a sheep as anyone else.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:29 PM
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15. I hope whimpy shit like this won't be posted much longer!
Though I do not disagree that the corporations and pukes are bedfellows, some of us still plan to carry on the fight. Rigged voting machines are a worry...but

I hold out more optimism, and request if your already throwing in the towel, why not leave this at home?

How does a post like this help the Dems or even DU?

McCain's already won? Bullshit!!!!

Then will you concede power to the pukes for the rest of your life?
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:33 PM
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42. No
I and we need to point out that its a rigged system, If I post now or 3 years ago and say hey its rigged and this is why and then it happens, well I think you get the picture. It really is rigged and the electronic voting machines as Mark Crispin Miller has pointed out many times are just the tip of the ice berg, specially since the popular vote does not elect the president. All this stuff the gets swept under the rug for the SHOW(the presidential Elections) is what is really important.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:29 PM
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16. put down your faux crystal ball. your post is ridiculous.
and do try to become better informed. If the repuke machine is so all perfect, what happened in 2006? How on other did they mess that up?
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:23 PM
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37. ROFL
are you saying I would even turn the TV on lol, no sorry It is you that is ill informed. Don't get me wrong I'm all for a Real democratic country and love Obama's stand for Dar fur. My research for the past 10 years has been specifically dedicated to the elites of society. Whatever you want to call it the Illuminate/World banks the elites that really run our world. Its not about a party anymore its all just for show. You pointing out 2006 even makes it more apparent, I mean what had changed...NOTHING, its the same because it the same people that work for the same people.

I could go on for hours but that fact is if you believe we have a functioning two party system for a working democracy, there nothing more I can say besides buy popcorn and enjoy the show!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:30 PM
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17. It wouldn't surprise me. Read
The End Of America by Naomi Wolf.


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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:37 PM
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24.  McCain says he could lose over war issue
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080225/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_2;_ylt=AnGeMu3cRpBdE2ECMS1VBS0E1vAI
John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Republican said.


Even McCain is smarter than the OP.



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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:13 PM
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32. Why do liberals always love to predict defeat for themselves?
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:13 PM
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36. there is no defeat
in a rigged election! Just a freakin show for the TV and Media

and BTW I'm not liberal and refused to be labeled as anything besides Human.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:30 PM
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41. Spares them the annoyance of actually taking responsibility for anything.
Easier, and far more self-gratifying, to be in the minority and yell during protests than it is to be in the majority and have to, like, govern and stuff.

Not all or even most. But there are some.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:28 PM
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40. You're right. I quit.
Or not.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:38 PM
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43. how much time are we going to wast over a made for TV election?
just wondering?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:44 PM
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44. Well, you sure wasted my time with this.
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