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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:09 AM
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For those squawking about Senator Clinton's supporters not wanting to
vote for Senator Obama, and you know who you are, please listen up:

Senator Clinton may not go past the March 4th Primaries because she may lose them. As such, her supporters will be very unhappy about it, they are invested in her candidacy and will be devestated at the loss. Many of them on here have been reviled, insulted and looked down upon by the other candidate's supporters so already are feeling less than wanted. They are angry over that and hurt that their candidate may not make it if she loses on March 4th. They are saying that they will not vote for Senator Obama but it comes from the pain of watching their candidate lose. Please show them some fucking respect and courtesy about their pain and loss and let them have their moment of hysterical grief.

I have no preference in this race, my state (AZ) has already voted, I do not care who wins the nominee but as a former Deaniac who had her heart broken by his loss, I understand the pain that the Clinton supporters are/may be in. Some of them have been total jackasses towards the Obama supporters. (I can think of a few) So what? Not all of them have been, and regardless of their behavior, they are your fellow Democrats and they most likely will fall in line behind Senator Obama but they need some time to heal.

Let them.

And by the way, if Senator Obama suddenly starts losing, you Clinton supporters should do the same thing for the Obama supporters.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:19 AM
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1. Kick
Cuz this is an important thing to remember.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:20 AM
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2. Condescending, much? And, by the way, didn't anyone ever tell you that self-kicking
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 12:21 AM by Redstone
a thread within ten minutes of posting it is pretty pathetic?

Redstone
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:23 AM
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3. I remember how upset I was over Dean's loss. It hurt. God did it hurt.
so I wanted to remind people that this IS about more than just hating Senator Clinton or being mad that her supporters are bitter right now...I mean even I said I was not going to vote for that Senator Kerry when Dean lost but what did I do?

I put country before party and voted against a gawdawful president for someone I did not care for in the slightest.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:43 AM
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21. Gad you are a grouchy one.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:27 AM
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4. I'll show them some fucking respect right after I fucking gloat my fucking ass off.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:29 AM
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6. leave them alone, if your candidate lost I would be telling them the same
thing.

Posts like yours do little to help the party faithful remain strong for November. Or did you forget there was general election?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:30 AM
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7. If the party faithful is going to vote for someone else then they aren't so faithful
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:35 AM
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8. No, they are going TO SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
Then fall in line after having some time to heal. November is still seven months away and you can always gloat in August about winning the nomination if he does win. But for a few weeks after March 4th, if Senator Clinton loses, give her supporters some time to heal.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:45 AM
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11. I voted for Barack, but I don't understand why you're so hateful.
Prolonged hate and anger doesn't help anyone, especially your candidate. I didn't vote for him because he was so GREAT! I voted for him because I couldn't bear the constant slamming of another Clinton for 4 years! Barack has a lot of attributes, but he's going to get beaten up visiously by the Pubs and we all know that. We really need EVERYONE to help defend him and put down the attacks. The things that Hillary or her supporters might have said against him so far are going to look like friendly comments before this is over.

The Pubs LOVE the power they've had, and nothing fights harder than a cornered animal, and that's what they are.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:35 AM
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9. Sigh, grow up.
:eyes:
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 AM
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10. Thank you.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:55 AM
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14. You are a class act - not.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:45 AM
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23. It's actually a useful warning to opt for ignore
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:47 AM
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24. You'll have a full week to do that...
hope you enjoy it.

:eyes:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:18 AM
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30. And then you'll ask for their vote
for Obama. You keep forgetting that part.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:20 AM
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31. If they want to act like shits about it, it's a lot easier to register and drive 2 normal people...
to the polls, than to convince someone who is so bitter about losing and committed to "crying in their teacups" to use a Kerryism. The effort isn't worth it.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:43 AM
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32. Yeah, it's easy to get people to the polls
That's why everybody who is eligible votes every election. Right? Meanwhile, you don't care about turning off people who by virtue of the fact they post on this site, are heavily into politics and have probably never missed an election. Do you think your candidate feels the same way?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:52 AM
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33. They have till november to buck up, actually here at DU they have a week. If they don't, fuck em.
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 07:53 AM by JVS
Just because they post here and care about this a lot doesn't mean that their ballot means any more than that of someone who usually isn't that interested and can be convinced to vote. Dedicated Obama-haters are not worth the time it takes to convert.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:13 AM
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34. All the posters here can just
avoid this swamp of a forum and still post. Or are the Obama police going to chase them down to the lounge and smoke them out of their caves?

And you're very naive to think you can just replace voters with new voters. I'm guessing you also believe the election is going to be a cake walk? That Senator Obama is going to win over all the indies and pubs and sail to victory. So far, he can't even pull together his base (neither can Hillary). He's going to need every vote he can get and people like yourself and going to be the reason why he can't get those votes. Congratulations.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:28 AM
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5. I almost hope she does go on. PA is on 4/22 and my Birthday is 4/23, I know what I want this year
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:45 AM
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12. I think this is a beautiful post ! Thank you ,Elizabeth!
And I speak as one whose primary candidate is still being reviled by Obama supporters. It still hurts to see Edwards abused.So I switched to Hillary after John suspended and have watched her be kicked.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:52 AM
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13. I hate it when people kick those who are down.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:56 AM
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15. That and the rampant sexim. GRRR.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:58 AM
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16. I had an incredibly long fight with someone today about Senator Clinton
not being eligible for of all things the constitution not saying "he/she/his/her..." whenever discussing things like the duties of the President.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:08 AM
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19. Unbelievable.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:52 AM
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28. If You're Saying What I Think You're Saying
This is why we needed the Equal Rights Amendment all those years ago-that some actually still pull this kind of illogical stunt.

Not to mention some of the more sexist flame wars about gender stereotyping that have been going on around here for weeks. When this election is over, I'd love to go back to the archives and pull quotes from young men and women who argue that there is NO SUCH THING AS SEXISM-or if there is-it is a trivial and laughable problem in comparison to residual racism. I'd like to counterpoint them with some choice excerpts from the "M" word and "B" word wars....and let's not forget the nutcracker!
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:01 AM
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17. Obama Was (Is) My FOURTH Choice
I'm not sure grief and pain are the emotions I'm feeling.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:05 AM
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18. resignation?
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:39 AM
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27. Not Exactly
Confusion, annoyance, ambivalence. For contrast, look at post #4 then look at post #9.

You'd like to believe in the possibility of mutual acceptance, respect and a productive working partnership. I'd have no problem "resigning" myself to work with #9. It wouldn't take resignation-I'd be honored to work with #9 and hope #9 would be equally receptive. However...some reflect badly back on their chosen candidate, delaying the accommodation.

'Nuff said?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:51 AM
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25. That is something new to the equation
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 01:51 AM by FlyingSquirrel
that some don't really consider when talking about how "Oh, they'll get over it just like Dean supporters did"... this time around it feels more personal to many.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:04 AM
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29. it'll take me a long time
to "get over it". Even before I was a Hillary supporter -- she's my 3rd choice but I've always admired her a lot -- even before, I saw so much vitriol towards Hillary and her supporters and so many sexist remarks and remarks against the LGBT community. It will take me a long time to look at DU in the same way. I won't just "get over it".
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:44 AM
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22. Thank you for that post. Hopefully all will be civil...but I think from past experiences
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 01:44 AM by jlake
it is clear that many of the Obama supporters on here are more likely the "SUCK ON IT!!!!" Types.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:53 AM
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26. I think that once this is all settled, we'll realize what the stakes are.
As a fellow Arizonan, I'm well aware of the danger that John McInsane poses to our country. Assuming the worst case scenario for me, that of the Clintons pulling some slimy trick to get the Super Delegates to go their way, I will still trudge to the voting booth to mark her name on the ballot. I'm pretty sure most Clinton supporters feel the same way vis a vis Obama.

Some things outweigh hurt feelings over a bloody primary race. Like psychotic wingnuts on the SCOTUS or 10000 years in Iraq, off the top of my head.
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