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Barking Spider Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:33 PM
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Re: The Red Phone Ad, I think Bill Clinton said it best...

"Now, one of Clinton's laws of politics is this. If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."
-Bill Clinton, 2004

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/25/pzn.01.html
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:34 PM
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1. Couldn't agree with Bill more
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:36 PM
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2. Agreed! Good insight, Mr. President. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:37 PM
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3. Oh, the irony. nt
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:38 PM
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4. That should be an Obama TV ad.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:38 PM
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5. Hypocrisy much?
This ad is the epitome of hypocrisy. It is so detrimental to the party as a whole, it absolutely infuriates me.
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The Anti-Bush Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:51 PM
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9. You do know who Penn's company ALSO represents... right?
John McCain!!! Don't forget that. Is there any wonder she has embraces the politics of fear?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:05 PM
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10. The gaffes keep growing in scope. He is a "moran".
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:50 PM
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6. He also said
(I'm paraphrasing from memory)

Bill Clinton referring to GHW Bush in an interview just before the 1992 election:

"You know what gets me the most? The way they cruelly mock us for having foresight. 'The vision thing.' "



(I apologize if I got the wording wrong. I can't find a link to the transcript on the internets.)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:51 PM
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7. It's too bad 2008 Bill Clinton didn't have 2004 Bill Clinton as an advisor.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:51 PM
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8. Ironically that was as true then as it is now ....
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:06 PM
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11. exactly. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton
:rofl:
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:13 PM
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12.  Its amazing when you think how good a politician Bill has been
and how badly Hillary's campaign has been run. I look forward to the books that will come out from aides blaming each other if she does lose.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:16 PM
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13. looks to me like another superdelegate switch from H to O
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:03 PM
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14. Is there video? That would be perfect for the Daily Show.
Jon Stewart should play the ad and then get the reaction of "2004 Bill Clinton".
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Barking Spider Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:52 PM
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19. video here
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:54 PM
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20. I want to see that video on tv,
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:36 AM
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21. very nice
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:56 AM
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26. PWNED.
:rofl:
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:05 PM
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15. Game. Set. Match. Brilliant. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:06 PM
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16. The only thing that frightens me more than Hillary answering the phone is McCrazy answering it.
She's delusional if she thinks Americans believe she's better to answer the red phone than Obama.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:07 PM
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17. I bet Hillary hopes that false! n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:52 PM
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18. Tragic irony
that Clinton's thoughts and hopes don't extend beyond his political ego.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:42 AM
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22. And you obamabots consider this ad "fear". The only fear I
see in the ad would be obama as the damn president.

I guess the earlier posts saying this ad was racist saying it was to protect the white kids from the black man....I guess that did not float so now it is FEAR.....

The ad just asks the simple question WHO? I say HRC and not the Bush LIKE (not lite) Obama....

and you have morons out there cheering obama's comeback on this like he does not give a damn about the soldiers over in iraq just as long as he can say I gave a speech in 02 that I was against this war..and Senator Clinton's judgement was wrong from the start..on and on and on....obama needs to wake his ass up and deal with the real world and tell us something we do not know.......

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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:49 AM
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23. Then why is the phone call at 3 am? it is a clear scare tactic and it won't work
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:50 AM
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24. RAGE!
I don't listen to people who use "obamabots".
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:52 AM
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25. If Obama is elected president, your children will die
I'm Hillary Clinton, and I approved this message.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:02 AM
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28. WaPo: "Clinton Plays the Fear Card"
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:56 AM
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27. B, K & R
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:30 AM
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29. Pin an Obama '08 button on that man!
Way to go, Prez Clinton. :patriot:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:35 AM
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30. K&R
The Obama campaign should definitely use this.

Thanks, HOTR
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