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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:30 AM Original message |
Obama Does Not Have To Apologize For McClurkin. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wow, give it a fucking rest. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. nope. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No I won't |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
74. You're queer? You said before you're trans. Anyway, you're happy to ignore or deny Hillary's |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. you really don't have a clue about the GBLT community do you? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
109. no he doesn't...same crap different day... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. I am a she. And yes I do have a clue. And yes, I also made a mistake regarding gender/sexuality |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:19 PM Original message |
Yes, I do have a clue. And I also acknowledge my stupid mistake regarding trans/gay. That doesn't |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Do you cut and paste this post into every thread on the subject? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Uhm |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
113. Thanks for asking "Didja know ya can be both?" I hope you'll accept my apology should my |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. apology gladly accepted |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #113 |
130. Thank you! Queer is an identity. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Sexual orientation != gender identity |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. still not acknowledging Hillary and Bill's own problems with GLBT issues? Priceless |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I don't have any issues with Hillary on LGBT issues |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
129. This isn't about Hillary and Bill's problems with GLBT issues. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #129 |
203. That was a mighty fine post! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
125. Delete. I see the apology above. Thanks. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #74 |
126. Thank you for again displaying how utterly ignorant and hateful you are. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #126 |
164. What is "ignored" saying now? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. Oh, that Maddie is a big fat liar |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
161. you are reaaly a crying shame to liberals all over |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
173. Oh. My. God. The astounding ignorance. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
179. You're queer? Man, that sounds so homophobic!!! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Yeah! Why don't you gays and gay-lovers just STFU and get cured!?!?!?! |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Too bad for you Obama never said that. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. He didn't say it?? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Really? Link? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Who do you think he means |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Link? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Nobody said Obama said 'gays should get cured' |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
190. to those |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. He gave them a voice in his campaign |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Deleted message |
maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. and I didn't support Richardson |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Barney Frank forgave Bill on his gaffe, and endorsed Bill's excellent GLBT record: |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. I'm mocking the "give it a fucking rest" attitude. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I'll never stop asking my party's nominee to show full support for my civil rights |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. Thanks for not obeying when told to "give it a fucking rest" hulk! |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
88. No? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. NO. FUCKING. WAY. this is THE deal breaker for me. FUCK obama and his defenders... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
154. This Obama supporter has no intention of "giving it a fucking rest" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. recommend |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. Notice how McClurkin is used as a toe in the door -- for a bunch of bogus attacks on LGBT issues ... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Notice for YOU and Obama |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I don't see the LGBT issue as having 'two equal sides' either -- I trust Obama MUCH more ... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Obama opened the door again |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. yep |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. First |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Government sponsored homophobia (DADT) is a solution? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. What part of the OP didn't you get? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. The faux outrage part. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Uhm yeah |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Hillary and Obama's positions on GLBT issues are identical. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. only on paper |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
85. talk is cheap. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. How about some honest characterizations? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
111. You don't know what the FUCK you're spewing about DADT... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
176. It comes to every thread having to do with this subject |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
181. APPLAUSE!!!! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
110. let us know when obama "opens a dialogue" with the KKK and other racists... |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
6. K and R! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. OK, I'm going to step reluctantly in here |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. The people he wishes to listen to |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Sorry, but that's not real thinking. It's speculation. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
134. He's already compromised on GLBT issues |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
132. He gave the bigot a microphone... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. kick & rec! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. shhhhhhhhhh |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. ! |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
86. seriously... I guffawed. |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yep |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Kucinich was my first choice |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. Isn't Kucinich now fighting to keep his house seat? |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
122. I am not sure |
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Support the ACLU (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. The McClurkin issue plus Obama's weak health care plan were the two factors that delayed my embrace |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
22. The Houston GLBT Caucus suggests your OP is BS! |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Someone's been spiking the coffee at the Houston GLBT caucus |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Big deal? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
76. You can have your "own opinion," and I can have mine, which I stated. n/t |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Nope |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. Because all queers must think alike so the straight people won't be confused |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. I'm a "T" |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
155. Can't you just make a normal post? |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
182. their poor choice does not make the OP bogus... that is just silly. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. Yeah. The same day Hillary apologizes for her IWR vote. Ok? n/t |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yes, because ignoring people entirely is a great way to win them over. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Her stance on DOMA? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. Is it like her flip flopping stance on NAFTA? |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
141. Uness it's changed since I least heard anything about it... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. Every time a McClurkin-apologist replies to posts like this |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Thank you |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. They don't care for GLBT people at all... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. And it's reprehensible when they do but |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
112. Thank you. YOU "get it"... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. He won't apologize. He needs the religious vote more than the LGBT vote. n/t |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Yes apparently he does. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
51. "of those who still need to be convinced" |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Why be honest about it? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. An activist sees the true value in that mode of activism. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Sorry but you are dishonest |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You're queer and I love you. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Thanks for the love |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. You're probably angry with me |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Its HOW you convince people that matters... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Oh? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
202. I'd look up Jurgen Habermas If I were you. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
143. Racists need to be convinced. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
58. Yes, it is |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
139. So when is Obama going to start listening to the racists? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. He has |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Obama actually has a history of turning a deaf ear to racists |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. K&R |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
60. you have conveniently ignored everything Obama has said and done |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
183. no.. we paid attention to what he DID.... by allowing McClurkin to get that platform to hurl hate |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #183 |
187. what did McClurkin say when he was on that platform? |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. here's an example: |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #188 |
193. in other words, he didn't say anything while on stage? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
62. Gay Clinton Backers Defect to Obama, Eroding Her Base |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. From link: "may be drifting" is speculation, not fact. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. "Obama has presented more detailed position papers on gay and lesbian issues than Clinton,'' |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. You keep doing that |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
114. The Clintons are the BEST FRIENDS Gay persons have ever had... |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. DOMA and DADT are your idea of friendly overtures? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. Adding buddy error |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. None of the "backers" named in this article ever announced support of Hillary Clinton n/t |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. So what? |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
69. Well said, maddiejoan. K&R. |
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Thurston Howell III (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
70. Hope to hell he's playing "smart" politics. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Might be "smart politics" |
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Thurston Howell III (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. Agreed! |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
82. When Clinton apologizes for DOMA. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You'll have to ask Bill about that. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Sooo... she isn't taking credit for any of the accomplishments. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I don't think she has a damned thing to apologize for. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
106. Gotta love the wacky spin. |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
83. He DOESN'T have to apologize for McClurkin. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
92. K&R For an excellent post! |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
94. Obama has proven to be insensitive to the members of the LGBTQ community... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
115. Ya got that right!!! |
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KLee (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
96. The key in that is..... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Hmmm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Deleted message |
maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I don't think |
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KLee (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Let me ask you this... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Because I'm convinced Hillary wants it. |
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KLee (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. I get that, and I respect it... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Deleted sub-thread |
TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. A "CHOICE"?! A "CHOICE"?!?! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Deleted message |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
97. There is no reason why we should have to talk to the bigots. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
124. Stonwall was when gay started *fighting back,* not 'compromising' and 'understanding.' O needs to ge |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. No kidding! |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #124 |
140. Maybe MLK and Malcom X should have compromised and understood |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
127. Listening to fuckwads doesn't mean catering to them. |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #127 |
184. Then the leader of the KKK should speak at the next rally that he holds in Georgia |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
131. Awesome post - thank you! |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
133. I love you, Maddie |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Because that equals votes for him |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. It's a pity. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
138. The problem here is the two divergent views of GLBT advancement |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. You really have no fucking clue what the fuck you are talking about... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Which is why he should be countered with reason |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. The problem is that Obama isn't doing that... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. I'm not discussing the McClurkin incident |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. But what would be accomplished by engaging in dialog with these people? |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. Not to get into it too deeply . . . |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #153 |
186. you can't discuss obama's views without discussiong McClurkin |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. On this |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. You've asserted this several times. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. It's in the OP |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Again, it depends how you view the debate. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. and legitimizing bigotry |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #159 |
166. It's not in your power to dictate |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. It's in my power |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #151 |
167. Their view IS just as important. Their vote counts just as much as yours. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. And there's the problem |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
149. If the people marching, shouting and fighting are so wrong about it all, |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. You're only reading half the sentiment |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. You don't "educate" bigots by putting one bigot on stage |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:10 PM Original message |
Two quick points |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
171. We've been listening to the bigots for how long? |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #138 |
185. Can I please have some equality? Pretty please? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
160. Hey maddie -- you know I think Obama sucks on this issue |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #160 |
201. Thanks for the post. jgraz |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
162. Guilt by association. Sometimes to forge a coalition, you have to work with imperfect people. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. 'Sometimes to forge a coalition, you have to work with imperfect people' Talk about an APOLOGIST. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Let's go forge a coalition with some white supremacists |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #168 |
191. It's important to reach out to ALL views. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. They're just misguided |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
170. Nevermind she has her hand in thousands of war deaths. n/t |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #170 |
189. nice relevant post. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
175. I just have to say maddiejoan |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
177. Great post |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
178. Got it in one. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
180. Hillary has NEVER suggested such a thing!... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
194. Sin vs. not sin |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #194 |
195. The problem is |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 06:47 AM Response to Reply #195 |
196. We've tried to sail past them |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #196 |
197. There is a hard core contingent |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Oh, I've written off that hard core |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #198 |
199. One doesn't have to actually say "you're a bigot" |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #196 |
200. I don't CARE if they "see the light" |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #200 |
204. Amen to that |
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