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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:14 PM Original message |
The "red phone" ad, 24 hours later |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. She's Not Only Embarrassing Herself |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. the red phone ad was a desperate, last ditch effort to scare up support and it failed |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Evan Bayh was on FTN this morning trying to scare us even further to try to get us to |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I saw that and was disgusted. He was pushing the fear like a Rovian robot |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yup. The Clinton camp and the Bush/Rove camp are indistinguishable. n/t |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. You have to admire the way they stick together on the important republican issues tho. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yes. Just like the Republicans. They get their talking points and stick to 'em. n/t |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Still waiting to hear what crisis she handled. |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Me too! Maybe they were out of TP during the '95 Women's Conference |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Straight out of Karl Rove's playbook. It's so disgusting .... |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. The red phone ad was a direct ripoff of a Mondale ad in 1984 |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Nothing, I have no problem with her using that format for an ad, they all do that |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. You actually make a very good point |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Thanks, I try |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. I liked the ad. And IMO anyone who doesn't look at the candidates in terms of |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What makes her ready to make a CIC decision in a time of an emergency? |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yeah, when did she ever do that? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Maybe through osmosis? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. she watched bill do it for 8 years |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. But wasn't she overseas gaining all that foreign policy experience we have all heard about? |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. As an aircraft maintenance man, I watched Navy pilots on aircraft |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. are you sure? have you tried? wait, bad idea. nevermind |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I am saying she is in an emergency right now, and is not showing good judgment |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. You got it. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I diasgree. Shes been making the case, for quite a while, that National Secuity |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. She blew the deal already. So far I hate her judgments on foreign affairs |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. What would you have done with the NIE info they had regarding the IRG? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. She didn't read it. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I'm talking about the IRG vote and that NIE |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Ahhh.....READ IT ..maybe? n/t |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. But she can't adjust to a changing situation, she is proving herself unable to cope |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. What's the emergency? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. I certainly would have liked someone competent on the other end of the phone when Katrina happened. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. They're both intelligent. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I can agree with the majority of that, i am just saying she seems unable to adapt quickly |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. It is an analogy for the state her campaign is in. and she can't adjust to solve the problem |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Well, if she responds to an emergency in the same way she's |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. ad, not add |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Thanks, edited.... my typing sucks. If spell check does not catch it then it doesn't get caught |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Heh... I'm dating myself, but before computers they used to teach spelling in school... |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Yep., but we wrote stuff, with pencils and pens. My one typing course was in 1979 |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. That Ad Was Another Poor Decision By Her Flawed Handlers |
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Egalia (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Then how come Obama copied her ad???? n/t |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. To turn it around on her. and it worked |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. His was satire of hers. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. LOL! |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Satire. It was hilarious |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. LOL, almost as dry as yours |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Mocking a bad ad, and showing a better way to do it? n/t |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
28. One of the Republican talking heads said he thought it was an RNC ad. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. It was an ad for John McCain as far as I can tell |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I agree, which is why Judgment is the better case for us to make in the GE |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. It was a bad ad. And it was first used at least 30 years ago. It was desperation time at Hill's camp |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. With all the money she spent, you think 1 of her advisors would tell her "when you're in a hole, |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hillary Can Still Cry, Beg, Plead and Cry Some More |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
56. kind of like the Super Tuesday strategy... n/t |
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