Danger! If Hillary wins the nomination, she thinks she can match McCain on the "experience" question

This is bad. This is very, very bad. It struck me this is a small preview of the race she imagines: Clinton and McCain, two experienced insiders, slugging it out toe to toe over whose vision for America will win.

She honestly thinks her time as First Lady of the US and AR and 7 years in the Senate will stand up to his two decades in the Navy and three decades in Congress. She actually thinks that. It won't remotely wash.

As First Lady she:
A) managed a health-care reform package into the ground
B) lobbied for women's and children's issues
C) met world leaders in social settings

Now, I certainly admire that she lobbied for women's and children's issues, but it's a danger if she thinks being a lobbyist for 8 years and a senator for 7 is even remotely in the same league as McCain's experience.

She will make the "experience" argument in the GE, and she will lose badly.

:shrug:

:rofl: at the smilie!

I, for one, have not been excoriating Clinton for that comparison, though she could have found a less sound-byte-able way to say it.

I'm genuinely, profoundly troubled that she thinks she has a "lifetime of experience" that is remotely comparable to McCain's.

As far as myself, I find the "experience" argument to be BS: "experience" is what got us where we are today. We need something different.

But, if the election gets framed as being about experience, both of our candidates lose to McCain. Period.

but I don't think that makes him the better candidate, more experienced yes, better, no. But, I do agree that he is likely to win the GE because the Republicans will frame this as being about experience.

a direct comparison on the same terms that she put out there.

Obama will be facing McShame.

right now it is overshadowed by the hope/ change movement...She has been pointing out that all the dem candidates are for change from Bush, but Obama has negatively tagged her with the status quo accusation...

that drops away in the GE (if she can get there)

She voted for IWR and USA-PATRIOT. It will be the same crap they pulled against Kerry: "If you're against these things why did you vote for them? If you're against where the country is going, why did you cast the votes that took us there?"

and will have General Wesley Clark as her VP.



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Hillary as VP? I'd like to know your take on the option.

...who is stronger on foreign policy than the President.

Let's go back to the VP being a mostly ceremonial role.

ie, as long as Obama has been in the Senate.

She does not have significant foreign policy experience, nor does Obama.

In the white house, she was the manager of a disastrous health care policy proposal, and after that failed she stuck to being a lobbyist for women's and children's issues.

As I've said, I admire her lobbying for women's and children's issues but this is not remotely a resume to take up against McCain and talk about being "experienced".

Look, on many levels I admire Senator Clinton but objectively she hasn't actually accomplished much in her life compared to your average Presidential candidate. Neither has Obama. These are both essentially untried leaders we're going to have to put our trust in.

McCain has got to be the most overrated politician out there.

issue against McCain? McCain is drooling about the prospect of this fight with Obama.

The worry is she doesn't see that she loses to McCain on this issue, and tries to make the campaign about it.

:shrug:

Sharp.


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would not have the job she has now but for her husband. It is not as if she is not smart but she played the hand that came with the time she was born into. It is sort of like Bush starting on third base where as her husband and Obama had to start at first base. I am sure we will see Jeb fall into this type stuff soon also. It does not mean you are good as a leader just you had a step up even if you have done little. I also do not want another Clinton or Bush in the WH. I am done with those two families. It has been 28 years of just two families sitting at the head of our govt. and lets face it we are not very well thought of world wide. Maybe that is part of the reason?

Is she really so stupid that she somehow thought saying that crap made herself look better?

I'd expect there to be a learning curve.

She'd ditch the whole "experience" theme.

Remember what we learned from the attacks on Gore and Kerry. Use their strength against them. No one is more experienced than McCain, but people don't want more of the same. We should be equating "experience" with "typical Washington insider."