MoveOn made the right decision re: Clarke

1. They want to stay on good terms with the guy. He asked them to do something, and they did it. No one forced them to do anything;

2. Clarke's move here was brilliant. MoveOn makes good ads, yes, but they are seen by 1/10th of the people who see Clark in the raw on TV, hear him on radio, and read his words in the paper. If he went along with MoveOn's ad and did not ask them to stop it, the Right could smear him...the way the smeared all of MoveOn for one ad in that commercial contest.

Clarke keeps his man-of-principle-and-above-partisan-politics badge while continuing to kick the administration repeatedly in the groin. MoveOn, for their part, was not damaged by this. Winners all around, and the right (and smart) thing to do.

It wouldn't be true, it wouldn't be accurate, but Wolf Blitzer would merrily report it. At what point does protecting Clarke from accusations of 'partisan' become a detriment to our cause? At what point does safeguarding his message become less effective than bringing it out as a weapon? I haven't a clue. :)

He is minding the store, and making the administration tapdance like crazy. All the administration's wounds this past week were pretty much self-inflicted: They kept trying to blitzkrieg Clarke, and he just took their crap and flipped it ("Sure, release my testimony. And release the rest of it while you're at it.").

No fear. Clark is minding the store.

Clarke went to school on O'Neill, Ritter, Foster, Wilson, Blix, etc...Clarke knows exactly how to go on the offensive with the truth, keeping BushCo off balance, with bring it on.

... and MoveOn did need to discuss Clarke, which would entail using his testimony.

Both sides are right.

But the substance of the charge, without the man's voice, ought to be pressed home to beating of drums, from all quarters.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

If Clarke wants MoveOn to stop, that's ok with me.

But we're battling propaganda warriors here... how best, and without Clarke's image, do we perpetuate his testimony to Americans?

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Everything we do gets screamed at by the right. It's all leaf blower machine noise after a while. Damn annoying initially, but tuned out fairly quickly as a background drone.

Um...turn off MSNBC. MoveOn never had any credibility with the right-wing media shills anyway. They weathered the Nazi storm, so this is small potatoes by comparison.

Just because Matthews says something, don't necessarily make it so.

MoveOn has pulled the ad, but I still have questions. This conversation between Clarke and Matthews leads one to think that a person has the power to say not to use their voice in ads. I did not realize that. MoveOn is not a group related to Clarke. No one asks Kerry, no one asked any candidate about using their name.
Yes, Clarke does allow one to think he disapproves of MoveOn. I do not like this. From the transcript of Hardball:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4641345

SNIP..."MR. CLARKE: I, I haven’t approved any movies, nor have I approved this TV ad which I just saw this morning.

MR. MATTHEWS: Right. You were talking about it during the break. You don’t like that Moveon.org organization?

MR. CLARKE: Well, I woke up this morning, turned on the TV, and there—I heard my own voice on a TV ad. Now, I never approved my voice being used on a TV ad, and I don’t much care for it....."

He left it hanging. He could have said more, but he put ammunition in the hands of the right by his silence. They can say Richard Clarke even disapproves of MoveOn.

If moveon had Clarkes permission to use his voice, it would have been far less effective. It would basically have been seen as a tool for selling his book.

The media attention this ad got (via clarkes request to pull it) made if all the more powerful.

In fact, I am almost certain moveon KNEW it would be temporary and weighed that before deciding to air it?

The great thing is CNN and other media stations played this ad again and again (discussing Clarkes wishes) in the process. :evilgrin:

Moveon has plento material for more ads, and the ads they do are very effective.

I am looking forward to their next. :hug:

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It was a greeat commercial and we should be talking about it - but not blaming neither Clarke nor MoveOn.

:evilgrin:

I've seen it 3 times on CNN this morning.

Not only did I see it several times on CNN today, but I can't find anything on google or on moveon.org about them pulling it...