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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:35 AM
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I could have supported a "Unity ticket" but not after Hillary's comments...
about she and McCain being experienced to be president and all Obama has is one speech in 2002. If there were a Obama/Clinton ticket you can be sure that the GOP would replay that sound bite over and over.

Nope, Obama will end up choosing somebody else like Biden or Richardson.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:36 AM
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1. I'd vote for it... but I think it would hurt us.
I really don't want to see that happen.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:36 AM
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2. Seconded
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:45 AM
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12. Thirded.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:37 AM
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3. He Has Bigger Problems
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Hillary Clinton leading Barack Obama nationally by five percentage points in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Clinton now attracts 48% support while Obama earns 43%. Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. Virtually all of the interviews for today’s update were completed prior to the announcement of Clinton’s victories in Ohio and Texas last night.

Looking to the general election, John McCain has a slight lead over both Democrats. McCain now leads Obama 48% to 43% and Clinton 46% to 45% (see recent daily results). A Rasmussen Reports video suggests that the Clinton victories in Texas and Ohio are good news for John McCain. In Washington State, McCain leads Clinton and is essentially even with Obama. The Governor’s race in Washington is also a dead-heat.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:39 AM
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7. and where was Hillary after Super Tuesday these daily tracking polls are up and down
and once Obama gets back on track it will all even out.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:42 AM
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9. Obama Is Not Seen As A Credible Commander In Chief Who Can Keep Us Safe
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:47 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
And as Abraham Maslow has said "safety" is one of the most primitive needs of all...

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:49 AM
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16. We'll see. I think he could have responded to her ad more forcefully
and now he will and he will soon be winning again.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:55 AM
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23. I Will Admit "Experience" Is An Amorphous Concept
But even people who detest Hillary have a grudging respect for her knowledge of government...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:37 AM
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4. .
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:38 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:37 AM
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5. I've not thought that a "unity" ticket would be a good idea,
but if Obama/Clinton means we could start on McCain now, I'm all for it.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:38 AM
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6. If Obama chose Biden and stated publicly that he planned to really use him,
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:39 AM by Dhalgren
I think that would calm a lot of people down.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:41 AM
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8. Hillary's comments were just campaign rhetoric.
I'm sure Obama understands she didn't mean it as a personal attack.

There's no basis for believing she really meant it, as far as I know.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:48 AM
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15. hehehe
subtle, very subtle. I like.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:50 AM
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17. that's not the point. McCain will use it over and over if she's on a ticket with him.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:54 AM
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21. Never mind. Guess I was wrong. n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:57 AM by writes3000
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:59 AM
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25. love it - a direct rip off of Obama econ plan promises not being important by Obama
spokesperson to CNBC's Kudlow
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:44 AM
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10. Her victory speech was very disappointing...
I understand that, in politics, there will be some criticism of the opposing candidate, but the fact that she actually rubbed it in after she won makes me think less of her.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:45 AM
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11. Fuck Hillary
Sorry to be crude but she has gone way over the line. Four weeks ago I would've been happy to support her. Today I can't stand the sound or sight of her. I've taken the Bush approach to Hillary, I turn her off.

The fact remains that Obama is in the lead. I have also been thinking that Biden or Richardson as VP would be the smartest move Obama could make. Either have great resumes that shore up his "inexperience".

Such a team could promote a unity and consensus ticket that would bring in voters.

There is no way that Hillary will attract voters outside her base.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:53 AM
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19. Hillary's base is Democrats, women, senior citizens, Latinos, blue-collar and low-income workers.
The fact is that Hillary is already outperforming Obama in national polls.

She is also doing better that Obama in match-ups against John McCain.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:45 AM
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13. I'm with you there.

Regardless, Obama can find a much better VP than Hillary.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:46 AM
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14. Clinton set the bar. And, she will regret her positioning
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:48 AM by BushDespiser12
come the fall. Speaking with voters who are on the fence, her divisive tactics have been heavily criticized and will lead to her defeat -- either as the potential nominee, or as the nominee.

On edit: Obama will not choose her as a VP.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:53 AM
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18. Hillary Clinton DESTROYED any credibility she has with Obama in that one statement
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 11:53 AM by writes3000
She has no respect for his 20 years of work. She has no respect for his years of experience. She thinks he brings NOTHING to the White House but one speech.

That clip will be played over and over again on a unity ticket.

This is what the Obama supporters have been complaining so vigorously about. She has taken an axe to Obama and to the Dem party.

She has been destructive in ways she didn't need to be. And she will end up regretting it in the end.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:54 AM
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20. Clinton Obama 2008. Obama 2012. Obama 2016. What's not to like?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:55 AM
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22. McCain 2008.
That's what.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:57 AM
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24. She's ruined it as a possibility.
She has devalued him to the point that it would look hypocritical of either of them to be on the same ticket.

As a Presidential candidate, why would she have a VP that has no experience but one speech?

As a VP candidate, why would Obama have her on his ticket when she thinks so little of him?
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:16 PM
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26. You got that right.
I've been saying that since before she made her lame remarks the past week. They'd both be viewed as opportunistic hypocrites for even agreeing to it.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:18 PM
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27. Give me a break
You grasp one statement to justify your irrational hatred of Hillary.

People have a better excuse to hate Obama for his McClurkin shit.
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