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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:22 PM Original message |
Ohio: A hollow victory based on a lie. CBC (Canada TV) exonerates Obama on NAFTAgate |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Conveniently |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yep. I mean if it was true then it was fair game. But it wasn't. Ugh. nt |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. K&R |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. HILLARY DID IT! PROOF! LINK! |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
109. The article does NOT say Hillary "did it" or that she was involved in the smear |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
110. Seems it was true - and Obama lied - the memo has not be recanted or disclaimed by the writer |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
118. beachmom, have you seen this video of Clinton discussing this? |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Hopefully |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It was an election-eve attempt to discredit Obama. |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Our "party" includes everyone except the Clintons! |
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ForeignSpectator (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
67. That'd be the party of MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE n/t |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. This is NOT about the Dems it's about the Canadian government using Canadian government resources to |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. It looks to me like Hillary colluded with the Right Wingers in Canada. |
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hey560 (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. Help me Digg this Story up To get the Word Out ... |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
103. This is why when you see a rabid Obamite you know you're not |
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LVjinx (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Actually, the Canadian government is calling this a "leak" |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
102. Hillary and right wingers smearing the progressive with a lie |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. How did the Clinton campaign get hold of the memo? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. The same way drudge got her fundraising numbers before her campaign released them? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. One more time, it looks like Hillary colluded with a foreign, rightwing government |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. well, see? THAT requires experience! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. based on what evidence - only evidence is memo proving Obama lied about no meeting |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. "what kind of democracy are we living in?" |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. One more f***ing lie from the Clinton Campaign |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. but i am told by HRC supporters lie and fear are good politics. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Bush supporters think the same thing. So do Moonies. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. yes, you are right. today, the day after, i am seeing so much of bushco |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. They don't CARE. They invested themselves in their TEAM's NAME. Like Cowboys and Yankees. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. ya well that is another thing that puts HRC supporters and bush supporters as one |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. This just goes to show you can never believe a word from those maple-syrup-eating bastards |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. LOL, watch it or we will send our fleet of canoes after you! |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Next you're gonna tell me all the soap in the world won't wash off the stickyness |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. That's the beauty of our "arsenal", it paralyzes our enemies... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. Fucking flappy-headed beady eyed bastards! |
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NikolaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
97. ROFL |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. Welcome To Politics. If Obama Couldn't Overcome A Number 3 On A Scale Of 10, That's Reason For |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. no, it is DIRTY politics. it is LIE. call it what it is. n.t |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. It Wasn't A Lie. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. the memo has never been said to be a lie - only lie is Obama denying meeting took place |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Harper lied about the contents of the memo!! D'oh! Now the memo |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
111. the writer says it was true |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #42 |
116. .. |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
81. Why don't you just leave this room. |
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hey560 (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HUGE. THIS WILL BE ALL OVER THE NEWS HERE IN CANADA. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
112. LOL - seems it is not all over the news in Canada - and the memo writer does not say he lied about O |
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bleowheels (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. Funny how the truth always comes out after the damage has been done. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. again 2004 election. clinton is feeling more and more like bushco/rove |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
78. Obama lied |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I think you are missing the point here. Go away. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. Shockingly There Has Been No Mention Of This By The M$M |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Actually, it was mentioned on the M$M the other day |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hillary and Bill are part of the conservative movement in America |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. We need more pictures of bill with pappy! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. Yep |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. Reheeeeheeeaaally. n/t |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. Mission Accomplished for the Clinton Machine. -eom |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. Mucked by the masters of media manipulation. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. The campaignSSSSSSSSSSS. Plural. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama - just another politician - NAFTA/Canada = untrustworthy |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. perhaps worse was Obama lying about a meeting taking place for so long |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
83. Perhaps worse was hillary conspiring with canadian repukes. |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. Obama needs to hammer media on this |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
33. Hillary's campaign wasn't implicated... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kos story link doesn't work but no matter - your post is wrong -nothing is "dismissed" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. of course not. swiftboat still demands kerry shot self in foot and bushco supporters |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. TV quote below - see if you can find where memo is said to be false |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Fine, if your devotion to your candidate means siding with the conservative gov. in Canada. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
95. That report is severely outdated |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. It's About As Big a Lie as the Downing Street Memo |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. two levels of Obama lies here |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well, I wonder if MSM might give this 60 seconds of air time, |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. You know, I'm ashamed to admit that the Hillary supporter |
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elmerdem (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. It is the media stupid. |
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canadian_is_cold (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
48. Kick, kickity kick :) |
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blocker (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
49. LINK LINK LINK PLEASE!! |
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canadian_is_cold (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. links |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
80. Wow |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Link was at the top to the Kos diary. They link to the CBC. nt |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. More lies from Kos covering Obama's lies... |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
88. Obama folks are out in full damage control. Spin, spin and more spin. (eom) |
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MojoMojoMojo (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. What Goolsbee said was off the record,which makes me think its |
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MojoMojoMojo (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. If Obama didnt misrepresent himself in other ways ,Id be more inclined to believe |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
59. So, the Canadian meeting occured, though Obama said it hadn't. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
60. Wow Thank you for posting this |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
61. She lied us into war. Now she's lying herself into the White House. |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
62. Wow! I Thought The Planted Questions, Race Baiting, Muslim Bashing and Fear Mongering Were Bad |
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Wayjose (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That is why at the Repug Freerepublic they call her HITLERY |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. RW Canda is in FULL damage control as was BO yesterday! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #64 |
113. Obama is the candidate of RW Canada and RW US - they fear Hillary |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
68. K & R |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
69. What's up w/ Shrum being ahead of the curve? |
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watrwefitinfor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. Why isn't this on the front page? n/t |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
73. kick |
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canadian_is_cold (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
74. TODAYS NEWS |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #74 |
108. Wow. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. Hmm... a hollow Hillary victory... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. Tangled Friggin' Web |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
77. was Canada in damage control mode... fact is: Obama denied the meeting |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
85. So a sucker is born every minute, and sometimes the sucker is us. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
87. So, no fundamental change to NAFTA, no threat of revocation. Obama DID LIE |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. yes, he lied |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #87 |
96. Hardly a lie |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #96 |
114. afaik saying you would scrap the treaty - as per the memo writer - seems to make O a liar |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #114 |
126. Come again? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
89. "May have" does not equal exonerated. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. It's interesting. This is now the 2nd non-denial denial I've seen. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #92 |
119. It's strangely enough to pacify the ardent Obamamaniacs, so perhaps that's what the |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
90. Ohio: A Fabulous Victory for Hillary based on her Progressive Ideals |
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Truthy Nessy (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Harper and Bush are liars, and they do it on purpose |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
93. K&R. (nt) |
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Caradoc (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Cross border interference |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
99. K&R |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
100. Hillary won Ohio fair and square. |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
101. The most unsettling thing about this whole story is that it took on a life of its own |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
104. OBAMA-CLINTON in 2008.... The GOP will die NOT-laughing |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
105. Kick! n/t |
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canuk1 (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
106. Ohio: A hollow victory |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
107. Obama should wide up and learn from Nixon's mistakes |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Obama admires Reagan's admin over Bill's - so he should also study Nixon's - I agree |
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jn2375 (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
117. Yeah but wasn't Bill Clinton in Canada the weekend before |
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canadian_is_cold (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #117 |
123. Ya he was here in Toronto n/t |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
120. Why is the Canadian Gvoenrment interfering with American elections? |
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canadian_is_cold (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Harper is a tool |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Gee! |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Then I guess we'll just have to take those tar sands |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
121. I say we invade, or they give us all their bacon. Forever. eom |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
122. This is totally untrue, most of the people I know who are supporting |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
125. the LIE is always on the front page |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
127. Ohio got used again. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
129. Canada is damage-control mode--this isn't a tea party it's |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
131. Kick! |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. one more. |
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