****BREAKING -Gaullp Poll- The Hill Reacaptures Her Lead****

For the first time in weeks, Hillary Clinton outpolls Barack Obama in national Democratic preferences, 48% to 44%.


The latest three-day average primarily reflects Democratic attitudes before the outcomes of Tuesday night's primaries were known. National Democratic preferences began to shift in Clinton's favor on Sunday, gained momentum on Monday, and remained favorable to her on Tuesday. Any impact her success in Tuesday night's elections may have on national preferences will be reflected in tomorrow's Gallup Poll Daily election tracking report.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104788/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-48-Obama-44.aspx

I know you're all so proud.

So stuff your clever rejoinders. Yesterday may well have killed our party. Congratulations.

Chill, Chicken Little. The sky isn't really falling.

Bake

...in the North Pole and the South Pole.

Soon Hillary's positives will be lower than whale **it on the ocean floor!:hi:

It's not easy to hear someone make fun of your laugh. Obama walked out on a news conference.

Yup, it's all right.

Neither of them is perfect -- I just want one damned Democratic nominee.

I'd have admired her again if she put party and country before personal ambition and backed Obama. All she
has given us now is a deeply divided party. That is NOTHING to be proud of unless her primary aim is to elect
McCain.

be convinced, that's your problem - not mine. She knew the rules and followed 'em. Obama lied. And today, watching him try to respond to complex arithmetic, he was inarticulate. Sorry, but as we learn more, she looks better and your candidate ... well, I'm sorry.

It's the Obama people. Your wing of the Democratic party is not unifying us but forever tearing us apart. I'm starting to think maybe that's for the best

We certainly don't need another.

the first President Clinton was amazing and now the 2nd president Clinton is going to be even better.

Sorry...you'll learn to love it.

I only started stumping for Obama because he was the obvious nominee. I was an Edwards supporter. But
if Clinton and her supporters must destroy the party if they cannot have their way, then let them have it.
I want Obama as the top of the ticket because he's the stronger candidate, but if one over-aged brat is going
to derail the chances of the Sane Party versus the Crazies? Let the brat have her way.

As you so efficiently illustrated, numbers change overnight...and often without any substantive reason.

That just shows how exclusive caucuses are...They are so exclusive that I would have thought a Republican invented them...

Look what happened in Washington State...The Hill lost the caucus 65-35 but lost the primary 50-48...

Nobody bothered to go out and vote. I would not do so either. It was like a beauty contest.

Spin master.

Caucuses are open a couple of hours... It makes it hard on the elderly, thephysically challenged, and the working class...

Facts are stubborn things...

That vote meant absolutely nothing and it came after Obama had carried the state.

Try spinning this some more. You asked for it.

If you think it's as easy to cast a primary vote as it is to participate in a caucus and participating in a caucus doesn't place an undue burden on the elderly, the physically challenged, and the working class there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

Those who had handicaps were put to the front of the line. Just checked CNN convention(caucus) count for TX...with 38% reporting, Obama has 56% and Hillary 44%....67 delegates total for the caucus. Of the primary delegates, Obama has 61 and Hillary 65. Do the math and I think if the percentages hold, Obama could out delegate Hillary.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#TX

Personally, I think caucuses are a joke, but in this election they're being used to dole out delegates. Obama might very well come away from Texas with more delegates than Clinton.

I haven't voted on Election Day in twenty years... I usually vote absentee or early... I can't imagine being limited to a couple of hours...

We need to just pick a winner already and MOVE ON. This is going to be horrible for us in the GE.

:eyes:

Madam Vice President.

McCain/Clinton '08

He drives the bus...........She throws you under it!

It fits.

I will take your poll and raise you 4 others

And no polls have come out with results since Clinton's wins last night.

so we will all have to wait until new polls come out and show a wider sampling.

But I just find it odd whenever a Clinton supporter points to numbers to make any kind of argument because Obama only needs 46% of the remaining delegates to get the nomination.

In the last month he has taken 80% of the superdelegates who announced their support 66-16

Fine we are off to Wyoming and Mississippi. Just remember this. Hillary could have gone out on a high note. But when she is raking in $ 1,000,000 a day there is no incentive for her to do so - except the better interests of the party - and the country.

She will continue. She knows the numbers and she will end this campaign with a huge warchest for her future political interests and in the meantime might damage Obama in the GE - which would then make it possible for her to run in 4 years.

This isn't about getting the nomination or getting a little a bit ahead in the polls. The numbers don't lie.

regarding Obama over the last month just like they did to Clinton once when she wore the cloak of inevitability. It is called the bandwagen effect. That is over now.

I know you don't see it this way but at least look around and notice that there is another viewpoint. Hillary Clinton and her supporters think she will make both a better candidate and President than Barack Obama, which does not have to mean we think he would be bad at either. Speaking for myself I am not confident that Obama is tough enough to beat McCain, and I am not confident that he is strong enough in the key real swing states to carry them for Democrats either. I do not think it serves the interests of our Party or our nation for our best candidate to leave the race when she has a real chance to win.

The 2004 election boiled down in the last week to 3 States; Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. So far Hillary Clionton has decisively won the popular vote in Florida and Ohio AND she polls much better in those states against McCain than Obama. The same is true for PA although obviously the primary there hasn't happened yet.

about 35%. No matter what they learn about her record, no matter what she says, no matter what she does.

Congrartulations Hillary, you proved that hope in politics indeed doesn't exist and is nothing more than a pipe dream.

Who cares if all the mud she throws at Obama will stick if he happens to win the primary, at least now her and all her supporters can say that if Hillary isn't the nominee then democrats aren't going to win the white house, all thanks to her.

Bravo Clinton supporters. Bravo.

Then we all owe a great debt of gratitude to the Clinton campaign for exposing this weakness now before we are locked into Obama as our candidate.

Personally I expect Obama to fight back. If he can't he has no business representing the Democratic Party against McCain.

but he shouldn't be fighting back like this against a fellow democrat. Everyone expected the right wing to throw out all the bullshit about him being muslim, questioning his patriotism, saying he isn't fit for office, and down right lying. But I don't think anyone ever expected those kind of unfair and totally dishonest attacks to come from a fellow democrat.

It would be extremely easy for Obama to do the same. With all those pardons from Clinton, all those right wing bullshit rumors about whitewater. And all those other dishonest attacks the right wing has launched over the years, Obama could have repeated it all and probably got a huge bump in the polls from it. Yet he chose not to sink that low even when he was far behind in the polls. Clinton and most of her supporters have no regrets about doing this, they are throwing this entire party under the bus saying that if Hillary doesn't get the nomination she will not allow Obama to win the general. Very classy of her, now when are people like you going to rise up and demand she stop this bullshit?

Frankly at this point if Obama wants to do the same to her then do it. Bring in all the bullshit rumors about Vincent Foster. Talk about Marc Rich. Demand she release her tax returns. At this point I am starting to get the feeling that I thought I would never get, which is that I will never find myself voting for Clinton. I always assumed any democrat would be better than any republican, but she is starting to prove me wrong. So if she is throwing mud at you not giving a shit about what happens to our party in the general then fuck it, throw mud right back at her. She proved this strategy works, 2 can play that game.

That's why he pulled the race card and called the Clintons "racists". Obama only cares about his own interests and those of his "America~hating" wife.

Oh please, do provide me with that quote.

But I'm glad you are willing to admit hillary has no regrets about throwing the party under the bus. So I hope you are looking forward to a McCain presidency. because at this point she has almost no chance of winning and the way she set it up neither does Obama in the general.

There may be a future for you in republican speech writing.

these people have absolutely no regrets about throwing this entire party under the bus as long as their candidate wins. Lies? Who cares about lies. It's just politics. The more lies you can fit in the better. I meant that has to be some kind of record, 5 lies in one short sentence?

I am not exaggerating when I say these people remind me of the typical Bush bot in the lead up to the 2004 election.

Because I have heard her play the I'm so strong while I cry gender card

K and R

:woohoo:

At least some portion of America must be snapping out of its messianic Obama stupor.

:thumbsup:

:toast:

Late-breaking numbers out of Texas’ odd two-phase voting system put an asterisk on Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night victory speech, showing gains made by Barack Obama in the delegate grab race had all but numerically canceled out her big win in Ohio.

Although Clinton got a major boost in morale by winning more raw votes than Obama in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island (she lost to Obama in Vermont), an Associated Press count of the delegates shows Clinton only reduced her opponent’s lead in delegates by 12.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/05/democratic-nomination-battle-now-focuses-on-wyoming/

to this:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#TX

I'm no mathmetical genius but when I did the math and kept the percentages as they are presently with 38% reporting, I had Obama up by four. So maybe the Clintons only reduced Obama's delegate lead by eight! Check it out and see what you come up with!

The media just fucked us, like they always do:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-jenkins/clinton-and-the-vast-medi_b_89465.html

All Obama has to offer is his perceived moral probity without which he is nothing special...

since we "like it".

Where do we start with the new stuff?

The Clintons' are at their most lethal and effective when they are under attack-see impeachment...


Maybe you can bring up her alleged lesbian affair with Huma Abedin:





She will ride that all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...

Thank you Texas, Ohio and RI.

Hillary for President!!

:thumbsup:

The superdelegates will be very interested in these poll numbers, as time goes by.
SO, let the battles continue!

come up again and again if Sen. Clinton is the nominee.

positive. Just a hunch based on their past performances.

I hadn't seen them. Now let's keep it rolling!!!!

Bring out the Generals!