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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:09 PM
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Hillary Clinton's Scooter Libby Problem( throwing the sink back at you, your dirty past )
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 04:18 PM by caligirl
by Geekesque
Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:03:16 PM PST

"Four years into the Iraq war, Americans are still living with the consequences of this White House's efforts to quell dissent. This commutation sends the clear signal that in this Administration, cronyism and ideology trump competence and justice."

Statement of Senator Hillary Clinton on President Bush's commutation of the prison term for I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

The Scooter Libby commutation is a microcosm of the Culture of Corruption, a key issue in the Democratic party's takeover of Congress in 2006. It shows the disregard for judicial norms, the corruption, and the abuse of office that have come to characterize the Bush Era.

Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton is not a credible critic of this Culture of Corruption, and certainly not of this episode.#

In 2008, we need someone with credibility on the issue of corruption and abuse of office if we are to take on St. John McCain, whose reputation for ethical behavior is overstated, but whose track record still outshines that of the Clintons.

The full vetting below the fold.

* Geekesque's diary :: ::
*

So, let's talk about abuses of office and cronyism involving executive pardons and commutations.

In the Clinton administration.

There are many such abuses to focus on. In the interest of brevity, we'll focus on two.

I. The New Square Four

The New Squ--who?

About New Square, New York.

New Square (Hebrew: שיכון סקווירא) is an all-Hasidic village in the Town of Ramapo in Rockland County, New York. Its inhabitants are predominantly members of the Skverer Hasidic movement who seek to maintain a lifestyle based on Hasidic teachings.

The village is administered by a Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and a Board of Trustees. Although elections take place, the officials generally run unopposed and actual voting is minimal. It is generally understood that officials running for office, are endorsed by Rabbi Twersky, the village's spiritual leader.

The upshot here, for external purposes, is that this community votes as a bloc in elections. People are told how to vote, and they comply.

So, what does this have to do with Hillary Clinton?

As it turns out, four men from New Square were convicted of fraud because they "

used a fictitious Jewish school to defraud the government of millions of dollars in education grants. "

Okay, okay. But what does that have to do with Hillary Clinton!?!?!?!

As it turns out, the village elders had a number of meetings with Bill and Hillary. The first was in August 2000.

The first took place in the Rockland County village of New Square last August, while she was running for the Senate. State party operatives thought the tiny community--which had often voted in a bloc in the past--was a promising one for Hillary in her race against Republican Rick Lazio. Following Hasidic custom, Hillary covered her head and chatted about the village's health-care services from across a coffee table, on which a tall bouquet of flowers served as the traditional screen that Hasidim require between the sexes. As far as anyone knows, that was a campaign event only; no pardons were mentioned.

(emphasis added)

This is all rather curious, since New Square normally voted 90% Republican and in 2000 "nearby Hasidic communities voted just as overwhelmingly for her opponent, former Rep. Rick Lazio, R-N.Y."

So they have that meeting, and what is the final voting result in New Square for the Senate race?

Hillary Clinton: 1400
Rick Lazio: 12

Not 1200. 12. As in one short of a baker's dozen.

You can probably guess where this is going.

The next session came four months later, after the sect had delivered nearly 1,400 votes for Hillary and only 12 for Lazio. On the morning of Dec. 22, Grand Rabbi David Twersky and an associate went to the White House and tearfully appealed to the President to pardon Benjamin Berger, David Goldstein, Jacob Elbaum and Kalman Stern. Hillary attended the meeting in the White House Map Room but insists she did not participate in the conversation. "I did not play any role whatsoever," she told the Associated Press. "I had no opinion about it."

Mmmmm hmmmmmm. Was Senator Clinton even there?

Why, yes!



But, despite the fact that Hillary had campaigned for their vote, and the fact that they had delivered 99% of their votes to get her elected, and the fact that she was Bill's closest advisor who sounded off on every policy decision, she "knew nothing. Nothing!"



Because, of course, the two meetings and the town delivering its votes en masse for her Senatorial campaign had "nothing. Nothing!" to do with what happened a few weeks later:

Bill's commutation of the sentences of the four convicted fraudsters during his last days in office.

But, I'm sure that was based solely on the merits and had "nothing. Nothing!" to do with the town's voting for his wife. And if it was discussed, she knew "nothing. Nothing!" about it.

For the record, there was an investigation by the US Attorney (Clinton appointee), and no hard evidence or paper trail was discovered.

II. Marc Rich.

This one is pretty straightforward.

Marc Rich (born Marc David Reich on December 18, 1934) is an international commodities trader. He fled the United States in 1983 to live in Switzerland while being prosecuted on charges of tax evasion and illegally making oil deals with Iran during the hostage crisis.

The exact kind of poor, oppressed person for whom the scales of justice demand executive intervention.

Of course, the fact that Marc Rich's ex-wife Denise had donated

$450,000 dollars to the William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library and tens of thousands of dollars in soft money to the DNC and to Hillary's Senate campaign had "nothing. Nothing!" to do with this.

As in the case of the New Square Four, there were no receipts or other forms of paper trail, so there was no evidence to support a prosecution.

In justifying this pardon, Clinton pointed to the fact that Rich's pardon had been sought by a 'distinguished Republican attorney'.

The name of that 'distinguished Republican attorney?'

I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Notes:
#Query: Does Senator Clinton believe that perjurors should do prison time?http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/News/ClintonDisbar-011001.htm

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/5/15316/82960/782/449767
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:10 PM
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1. Vetted? I think not.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:14 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:15 PM
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3. K & R
and there is a *LOT* more dirt like that!!!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:17 PM
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4. And lots of that is directly related to what she did, not the Clinton WH
Like the Rose Law firm billing records that were lost for 2 years, the removal of files from Vince Foster's office, etc.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:24 PM
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8. Yup, I wasn't even going to re-examine what Bill's scandals are.
But Hillary, in her law practice, her campaigns for the Senate, her time as Senator, AND what deals may have been done to GET HER that Senate seat... those are ALL fair game.

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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:08 PM
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26. And her expertise in cattle futures...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:18 PM
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5. Ewwww....
K&R
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:19 PM
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6. BIG frickin' K & R
and.... now I know why there are always so many Hasidim at the Ramapo Apple Orchard we go to... who knew?

And Hillary keeps flapping her trap about Rezko...
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:23 PM
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7. I'm too lazy to read all that...can I get a condensed version?
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:27 PM
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9. Clinton bought votes in Brooklyn by having Bill pardon 4 people in their community.
And Scooter Libby was Marc Rich's lawyer when Bill pardoned him.
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Wayjose Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:28 PM
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10. Oh No, here comes the mud
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:37 PM
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14. And doesn't the sound a lot like at least one of the allegations related to the Burkle affair:

Protecting Hillary: Bill Clinton Severs Business Ties With Billionaire Buddy Burkle

December 12, 2007 04:06 PM

Bill Clinton has severed business ties with Los Angeles billionaire Ron Burkle, fearful that their deals could erupt into bad publicity damaging his wife's presidential bid, according to sources who know both men.

<…>

The crucial development, sources said, was the September 26 publication of a front page Wall Street Journal article detailing some of Yucaipa's questionable dealings. The story, which broke on the same day that heads of state and business leaders convened to discuss the Clinton Global Initiative, detailed how a young Italian businessman had convinced Burkle and a Clinton aide to invest millions of dollars in a poorly run church-property buying venture.

Clinton, according to sources, considered the piece a major embarrassment and decided to withdraw from Yucaipa.

Clinton was furious with Burkle after the WSJ story appeared, according to a source close to the former president. Burkle and Clinton exchanged heated words, the source said, adding, "their friendship will never be the same. There is now a real distance between Burkle and the Clintons."

According to the WSJ story, in May 2007, Burkle and Yucaipa filed a lawsuit accusing the Italian businessman, Raffaello Follieri, of "systematically misappropriating" at least $1.3 million to fund personal expenses and activities.

Follieri responded by accusing Burkle of blocking efforts to develop the purchased properties. Adding to the embarrassment was Follieri's reported promise to help deliver Catholic voters to Hillary Clinton, according to the Journal.

The lawsuit was settled in late November, according to court documents signed by a Delaware Chancery Court judge.

Prior to the failed church-property buying scheme, Yucapia found itself on the receiving end of a lawsuit. In April 2007, investors of Hawk Opportunity Fund sued Burkle over charges that Yucaipa's acquisition of Allied Holdings, Inc., North America's largest car-hauling company, gave it an unfair share of the market. The suit was dismissed.

But the transaction, not the lawsuit, forced Clinton to get involved. According to reports, the former president was brought on board to help persuade the International Brotherhood of Teamsters to take a 15 percent wage cut at Allied in exchange for bringing the company out of bankruptcy. The Teamsters agreed to accept the reduction.

Finally, according to USA Today, former Clinton aides helped secure a multi-million dollar federal contract for a Georgia-based company in which Yucaipa had 20% ownership. AmeriCold, one of the nation's largest cold-storage companies, was paid up to $85 million, to help with Katrina recovery efforts after James Lee Witt, who headed Federal Emergency Management Agency in the Clinton administration, lobbied on the company's behalf.

AmeriCold's job performance became the subject of controversy and bad publicity. As USA Today wrote: "truckers who were paid $800 a day (to help Katrina victims) hauled ice from state to state without unloading, then delivered their cargoes to AmeriCold and other storage facilities as far away from the Gulf Coast as Maine."

more

(emphasis added)

Like I said, one of the allegations. Burkle, there's a name that's bound to crop up repeatedly.



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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:45 PM
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16. Hillary benefitted with an unusual block vote from republican voting Hasidic jews
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 04:49 PM by caligirl
in New Square (1400 votes for Hillary's senatorial campaign, 12 for her opponent Lazio who got the votes of other Hasididic Jews in nearby communities who voted as they traditionally have for repugs). Later that fall 4 convicted(fraud) members of their community, who ripped off the fed. government taking ed grants amounting to a ton of money using a fake school, were pardoned by Bill. Hillary was present at the meeting in the WH of the two leaders who came to beg for a pardon after they block voted for Hillary. She and Bill had meetings with these same people in their community where she dressed in their traditional wear, before they voted for her in block votes.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:57 PM
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28. "Republican voting Hasidic jews" -- ?
Oy vey!

You don't know that much about American Jews, do you?

--p!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:51 PM
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32. was referring to the author's point of a voting history in this community quoted here
"This is all rather curious, since New Square normally voted 90% Republican and in 2000 "nearby Hasidic communities voted just as overwhelmingly for her opponent, former Rep. Rick Lazio, R-N.Y."


Can't attack the vote buying can you?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:07 PM
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33. Check out how Lazio got their vote.
There had been a couple of notorious murders and two near-lynchings that caused became the pretext for a boil-over between Jews and Blacks in NYC. It got ugly-ugly, not slap-fight ugly.

The term "race card" comes to mind.

It turned out that what had been some hard feelings that were being resolved by the rabbinate and local Black community activists were being stoked by local politicians including a certain man who recently ran for the GOP presidential nomination.

After everybody calmed down, word came out that there was also some reconciliation brokered by The Shrill One.

The NYC Jews' two-year-long flirtation with the GOP ended. A mitzveh it was!

--p!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:31 PM
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12. Sure...
There is a compound of Hasidic Jews who follow a particular Rabbi in NY.

They vote the way he tells them to.

4 men of the sect were convicted of fraud.

The Rabbi went to visit Hillary (and Bill) in the white house just before Bill left office, but after Hillary announced her run for the Senate.

Previous election, the residents of the compound voted 80% for Republicans.

After the meeting between the Clintons and the Rabbi, the residents voted 99% to 1% for Hillary for Senate.

Right after that, the 4 men from the compound were pardoned by Bill.

There are photos of the meeting... with Hillary standing right there, though she SAYS that she wasn't there for the meeting.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:04 PM
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25. Wow, that's some crazy shit.
:crazy:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:30 PM
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11. I hope you can do better than this.
It was already investigated by the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York seven years ago.

Get some new dirt.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:35 PM
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13. nope... investigated by the US attorney APPOINTED by
oh, let's see, Bill Clinton!

And there will be more.

Lot's more.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:39 PM
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15. Closed by the US Attorney, uh, APPOINTED by, oh, let's see, George Bush!
Have fun.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:45 PM
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17. And we all know that Bush's AGs were all squeaky clean!
Why would Bush care if Hillary is investigated? She never posed a threat to Bush. She voted his way in the Senate on almost every issue, starting with the IWR.

Hillary is NOT the enemy of Bush.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:51 PM
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19. these freaks have lost it. They still can't get it through their skulls
that the Clinton's are the Bush's saviors.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:54 PM
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22. Sorry, your orbit is spiralling beyond my grasp.
Check in when you've landed.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:52 PM
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20. Clinton pardoned BCCI and IranContra figure Marc Rich for Poppy Bush, plus he deep-sixed
all the outstanding matters in many of GHWBush's illegal operations throughout the 90s.

Clintons protect Bushes - just as they were groomed to do by Jackson Stephens when he bankrolled their careers and campaigns.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:53 PM
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21. When did Hillary do this?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:56 PM
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24. It started when she and Bill were building their careers in Arkansas. Stephens matters greatly
in both their careers. And if you want to argue that Hillary was unaware and never contributed to Bill's actions as president, then she isn't very astute to let all these crimninal activities and cronyism go on right under her nose. She's not ALERT enough to be president.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:22 PM
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34. She didn't. It's a conspiracy theory.
The BCCI scandal was quite real and got its start around 1978. Bert Lance, Carter's treasury secretary, got caught up in it.

Read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International">backgrounder at Wikipedia -- just to give you an outline. I'm sure you will hear that it is a sanitized version approved by the Illuminati. Angry demands for citations and links are also common.

Around 1990, the GOP tried to smear Bill Clinton with a fictionalized version of the scandal. He was later investigated in colonoscopic detail and exonerated.

Marc Rich was also involved with BCCI, though the Rich pardon was pushed for by Israeli interests. BCCI is said to have been involved, but there is no evidence. Of course, BCCI existed in a small, rarefied economic niche, so a lot of people were involved with it -- even a few innocent ones.

But don't try to argue rationally about it. The theorists all have reams of "research" that is recycled from the "Arkansas Project" intended to destroy the career of Bill Clinton. I've been badgered by no fewer than FOUR people hepped up on BCCI scandal theories, one back in the early 1980s, and it's getting a little wearisome.

--p!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:05 AM
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37. Baloney - Bush operatives were very careful to skirt all Arkansas matters that led to GHWBush
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:06 AM by blm
and Jackson Stephens.

And you are pretty funny trying to pretend that BCCI was resolved long before Clinton took office.

How many times do you want the ACTUAL REPORT'S list from Dec 1992 of BCCI's OUTSTANDING MATTERS posted?

Matters For Further Investigation

There have been a number of matters which the Subcommittee has received some information on, but has not been able to investigate adequately, due such factors as lack of resources, lack of time, documents being withheld by foreign governments, and limited evidentiary sources or witnesses. Some of the main areas which deserve further investigation include:

1. The extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear program. As set forth in the chapter on BCCI in foreign countries, there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear program through the BCCI Foundation in Pakistan, as well as through BCCI-Canada in the Parvez case. However, details on BCCI's involvement remain unavailable. Further investigation is needed to understand the extent to which BCCI and Pakistan were able to evade U.S. and international nuclear non-proliferation regimes to acquire nuclear technologies.

2. BCCI's manipulation of commodities and securities markets in Europe and Canada. The Subcommittee has received information that remains not fully substantiated that BCCI defrauded investors, as well as some major U.S. and European financial firms, through manipulating commodities and securities markets, especially in Canada, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg. This alleged fraud requires further investigation in those countries.

3. BCCI's activities in India, including its relationship with the business empire of the Hinduja family. The Subcommittee has not had access to BCCI records regarding India. The substantial lending by BCCI to the Indian industrialist family, the Hindujas, reported in press accounts, deserves further scrutiny, as do the press reports concerning alleged kick-backs and bribes to Indian officials.

4. BCCI's relationships with convicted Iraqi arms dealer Sarkis Soghanalian, Syrian drug trafficker, terrorist, and arms trafficker Monzer Al-Kassar, and other major arms dealers. Sarkenalian was a principal seller of arms to Iraq. Monzer Al-Kassar has been implicated in terrorist bombings in connection with terrorist organizations such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Other arms dealers, including some who provided machine guns and trained Medellin cartel death squads, also used BCCI. Tracing their assets through the bank would likely lead to important information concerning international terrorist and arms trafficker networks.

5. The use of BCCI by central figures in arms sales to Iran during the 1980's. The late Cyrus Hashemi, a key figure in allegations concerning an alleged deal involving the return of U.S. hostages from Iran in 1980, banked at BCCI London. His records have been withheld from disclosure to the Subcommittee by a British judge. Their release might aid in reaching judgments concerning Hashemi's activities in 1980, with the CIA under President Carter and allegedly with William Casey.

6. BCCI's activities with the Central Bank of Syria and with the Foreign Trade Mission of the Soviet Union in London. BCCI was used by both the Syrian and Soviet governments in the period in which each was involved in supporting activities hostile to the United States. Obtaining the records of those financial transactions would be critical to understanding what the Soviet Union under Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Andropov was doing in the West; and might document the nature and extent of Syria's support for international terrorism.

7. BCCI's involvement with foreign intelligence agencies. A British source has told the Bank of England and British investigators that BCCI was used by numerous foreign intelligence agencies in the United Kingdom. The British intelligence service, the MI-5, has sealed documents from BCCI's records in the UK which could shed light on this allegation.

8. The financial dealings of BCCI directors with Charles Keating and several Keating affiliates and front-companies, including the possibility that BCCI related entities may have laundered funds for Keating to move them outside the United States. The Subcommittee found numerous connections among Keating and BCCI-related persons and entities, such as BCCI director Alfred Hartman; CenTrust chief David Paul and CenTrust itself; Capcom front-man Lawrence Romrell; BCCI shipping affiliate, the Gokal group and the Gokal family; and possibly Ghaith Pharaon. The ties between BCCI and Keating's financial empire require further investigation.

9. BCCI's financing of commodities and other business dealings of international criminal financier Marc Rich. Marc Rich remains the most important figure in the international commodities markets, and remains a fugitive from the United States following his indictment on securities fraud. BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980's amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involving in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation.

10. The nature, extent and meaning of the ownership of shares of other U.S. financial institutions by Middle Eastern political figures. Political figures and members of the ruling family of various Middle Eastern countries have very substantial investments in the United States, in some cases, owning substantial shares of major U.S. banks. Given BCCI's routine use of nominees from the Middle East, and the pervasive practice of using nominees within the Middle East, further investigation may be warranted of Middle Eastern ownership of domestic U.S. financial institutions.

11. The nature, extent, and meaning of real estate and financial investments in the United States by major shareholders of BCCI. BCCI's shareholders and front-men have made substantial investments in real estate throughout the United States, owning major office buildings in such key cities as New York and Washington, D.C. Given BCCI's pervasiveness criminality, and the role of these shareholders and front-men in the BCCI affair, a complete review of their holdings in the United States is warranted.

12. BCCI's collusion in Savings & Loan fraud in the U.S. The Subcommittee found ties between BCCI and two failed Savings and Loan institutions, CenTrust, which BCCI came to have a controlling interest in, and Caprock Savings and Loan in Texas, and as noted above, the involvement of BCCI figures with Charles Keating and his business empire. In each case, BCCI's involvement cost the U. S. taxpayers money. A comprehensive review of BCCI's account holders in the U.S. and globally might well reveal additional such cases. In addition, the issue of whether David Paul and CenTrust's political relationships were used by Paul on behalf of BCCI merits further investigation.

13. The sale of BCCI affiliate Banque de Commerce et de Placements (BCP) in Geneva, to the Cukorova Group of Turkey, which owned an entity involved in the BNL Iraqi arms sales, among others. Given BNL's links to BCCI, and Cukorova Groups' involvement through its subsidiary, Entrade, with BNL in the sales to Iraq, the swift sale of BCP to Cukorova just weeks after BCCI's closure -- prior to due diligence being conducted -- raises questions as to whether a prior relationship existed between BCCI and Cukorova, and Cukorova's intentions in making the purchase. Within the past year, Cukorova also applied to purchase a New York bank. Cukorova's actions pertaining to BCP require further investigation in Switzerland by Swiss authorities, and by the Federal Reserve New York.

14. BCCI's role in China. As noted in the chapter on BCCI's activities in foreign countries, BCCI had extensive activity in China, and the Chinese government allegedly lost $500 million when BCCI closed, mostly from government accounts. While there have been allegations that bribes and pay-offs were involved, these allegations require further investigation and detail to determine what actually happened, and who was involved.

15. The relationship between Capcom and BCCI, between Capcom and the intelligence community, and between Capcom's shareholders and U.S. telecommunications industry figures. The Subcommittee was able to interview people and review documents concerning Capcom that no other investigators had to date interviewed or reviewed. Much more needs to be done to understand what Capcom was doing in the United States, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Oman, and the Middle East, including whether the firm was, as has been alleged but not proven, used by the intelligence community to move funds for intelligence operations; and whether any person involved with Capcom was seeking secretly to acquire interests in the U.S. telecommunications industry.

16. The relationship of important BCCI figures and important intelligence figures to the collapse of the Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank and Tetra Finance (HK) in 1983. The circumstances surrounding the collpase of these two Hong Kong banks; the Hong Kong banks' practices of using nominees, front-companies, and back-to-back financial transactions; the Hong Banks' directors having included several important BCCI figures, including Ghanim Al Mazrui, and a close associate of then CIA director William Casey; all raise the question of whether there was a relationship between these two institutions and BCCI-Hong Kong, and whether the two Hong Kong institutions were used for domestic or foreign intelligence operations.

17. BCCI's activities in Atlanta and its acquisition of the National Bank of Georgia through First American. Although the Justice Department indictments of Clark Clifford and Robert Altman cover portions of how BCCI acquired National Bank of Georgia, other important allegations regarding the possible involvement of political figures in Georgia in BCCI's activities there remain outside the indictment. These allegations, as well as the underlying facts regarding BCCI's activities in Georgia, require further investigation.

18. The relationship between BCCI and the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro. BCCI and the Atlanta Branch of BNL had an extensive relationship in the United States, with the Atlanta Branch of BNL having a substantial number of accounts in BCCI's Miami offices. BNL was, according to federal indictments, a significant financial conduit for weapons to Iraq. BCCI also made loans to Iraq, although of a substantially smaller nature. Given the criminality of both institutions, and their interlocking activities, further investigation of the relationship could produce further understanding of Saddam Hussein's international network for acquiring weapons, and how Iraq evaded governmental restrictions on such weapons acquisitions.

19. The alleged relationship between the late CIA director William Casey and BCCI. As set forth in the chapter on intelligence, numerous trails lead from BCCI to Casey, and from Casey to BCCI, and the investigation has been unable to follow any of them to the end to determine whether there was indeed a relationship, and if there was, its nature and extent. If any such relationship existed, it could have a significant impact on the findings and conclusions concerning the CIA and BCCI's role in U.S. foreign policy and intelligence operations during the Casey era. The investigation's work detailing the ties of BCCI to the intelligence community generally also remains far from complete, and much about these ties remains obscure and in need of further investigation.

20. Money laundering by other major international banks. Numerous BCCI officials told the Subcommittee that BCCI's money laundering was no different from activities they observed at other international banks, and provided the names of a number of prominent U.S. and European banks which they alleged engaged in money laundering. There is no question that BCCI's laundering of drug money, while pervading the institution, constituted a small component of the total money laundering taking place in international banking. Further investigation to determine which international banks are soliciting and handling drug money should be undertaken.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:48 PM
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18. its coming. Hillary pss't off too many people.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:55 PM
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23. Oh, Ok. Let me know when it arrives.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:55 PM
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27. This is a small article but if you love Lieberman you'll like this.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 05:56 PM by caligirl
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4913191


This isn't intended to be another 'scandel' article. Just an article underscoring her tactics.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:58 PM
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29. You mean Obama's Senate mentor? No, I don't like him.
And attacking tactics, strategy and policies is fine. I just don't like Weekly World News attacks.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:01 PM
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30. And now for a link (one of many).
http://boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/">Obama rallies state Democrats, throws support behind Lieberman.

Not that there's anything wrong with that ...

--p!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:05 PM
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39. here you go Rug,
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:11 PM
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31. K&R, the Culture of Corruption has cleared the Clintons....

that's why she can claim to be 'vetted'.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:37 PM
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35. from the comments: the New Square Four stole Pell Grant money:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E6DA143FF935A15752C0A9679C8B63

The heart of the case, however, was the fraud against the Department of Education, a crime that resulted in thousands of students' getting Pell Grants for classes they never took and degrees or certificates they never earned. Hundreds of grants were received for students seemingly attending a Rockland Community College program in Judaica studies that, like the Brooklyn school, existed mainly on paper. Some of them did not even know their names had been submitted for grants and testified that they had never registered for any courses at the college.

The deceit came to light, prosecutors said, through inconsistencies in audits and the persistence of state and federal grant program inspectors who left scratching their heads after meetings with the men or visits to the bogus facilities they had set up.

Few rushed to suspect the Hasidim of anything untoward; hard questions come with difficulty, ''especially,'' Ms. Hendon told the jury, ''when the people seeking the funding present themselves as deeply religious, pious people.''

''But,'' she said, ''it wasn't until these hard questions were asked, and it wasn't until these questions were answered, that the truth was finally revealed.''

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:38 PM
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42. Taking money from needy students is okay if you deliver
votes for Tammany Hill.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:39 PM
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36. K&R n/t
:kick:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:10 AM
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38. Don't mean to be catty, but what the HELL is Hillary wearing in that first picture??
Did Bill appoint her Surgeon General?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:06 PM
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40. She is trying to dress conservatively for the guests I suppose.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:18 PM
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41. good old Clinton corruption...
Rich new veins of this stuff open up all the time, I tell you.

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