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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:33 AM
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Some Kerry+Landrieu pics that could be used for avatars or signitures
Mary's becoming a closer and closer second choice for me. I know some here have her as 1st.











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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:48 AM
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1. What
that weirdo Democrat who touted her record of voting with Bush 3/4 of the time as reason to re-elect, who got the rare second chance to tweeze out a few extra differences with the Shrub to save her ass -- that's your choice for veep? Or, as you contend, the choice for first for some here?

That's NUTZ...
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:58 AM
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2. I'm not going to bother arguing with someone who calls democrats
"weirdo's" to try and make a "point". I'm sure your preference(s) could not be spun as "nutz" with the same kind of unintelligable mis and half-truths you use.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:07 AM
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3. Haha
Yes, my placing "weirdo" within proximity of the word "Democrat" marks me as someone who hates Dems and spins "unintelligable mis and half-truths." Surely, measuring your record against the stellar standard of Bush policy is electoral GOLD! That's who I want on the ticket -- someone who sees herself as Bush enough, without the nasty bits.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:14 AM
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4. She has a lifetime ACU rating of 15, 4 points higher than Feinstein and
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 05:21 AM by Bombtrack
Hillary. In a state that is strongly conservative. You seem to beleive yourself psychic, to know how Mary "see's herself". Why can't you argue civily. Who in your opinion would make a good vp, so people can attempt to see where you are coming from, because it appears to me, all you can do is foster billigerent hostility.

Why is it so bad to have a moderate vp when the person at the top of the ticket, who has all the decision-making power, is litterally one of the top 5 or 6 most liberal people in the senate. She has the second greatest potential for advantage politically to defeat Bush. And that matters.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:29 AM
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6. Psychic? Whatta joke. You're floundering
And ACU? Why should I give a rat's ass about a conservative group's measure, except as a mark against her? Pshaw. Here's some bragging from her own website:
Senator Landrieu voted with President Bush 74% of the time last year, the third highest Democrat in the Senate. (Congressional Quarterly) (Times Picayune 1-24-02)

http://www.marylandrieu.com/news/021010_attack_ads.html
Howzzat? She's three quarters Bush and proud of it. In fact, that cite is presented as a rebuttal the the charge that she's somewhat like Hillary.

Hey, you like Mary? Cool. I'm mostly indifferent. Except when it comes to elevating her to Veep or Prez.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:44 AM
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7. It was an election year spin to rebut attacks against her that she isn't
mainstream for LOUISIANA. Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer probably "voted with the president" more than half of the time, because mostly when senators of either party cast votes it's on non-partisan, non-ideological, day-to-day minutae. She is neither "3 quarters Bush" or "proud" of it. Perhaps you're one of the politically naive purists who beleive that all democrats in every state should vote like Bernie Sanders whether or not our numbers in both houses are decimated. Sorry, I live in the real world. You've still yet to present a case of anyone you say would make a stronger vice presidential candidate
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:04 AM
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8. Right on cue
I'm a purist, you're a realist. I'm naively reaching for Utopia, you're being practical. Paint by the numbers.

She used her fealty to the Bush agenda as her ticket back to the Senate. You think I invented the "74%" claim? I gave you a link, it's still there, post-election. And what does the phrase "the third highest Democrat in the Senate" mean, but to highlight her fidelity?

And what came of it? SHE BLEW HER ELECTION. It took a second round, where she got a redemptive chance to assert actual differences with the Boy Emperor to reclaim her seat. If she was in another state, she'd be EX-Senator Landrieu.

Yeah, she's in a conservative state. And she tacked too conservative and too enamored with this historically reactionary Republican administration for her own constituents. They voted against her in the first round. Deny that.

I'm tickled she re-won her seat. I'm happy that a Democrat is representing Louisiana. But she's not fit to be one of the top two Democrats on the top of the ticket.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:45 AM
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9. That was 1 year, not her career
The only major issue she isn't on a whole liberal, safely left of center on is the environment, basically because she comes from an oil state, and votes in the interests of an industry that has alot of jobs in her state. And that isn't going to hurt the ticket. Again, why don't you tell us who would make a better/best vp for which reasons, or can you only attack my opinion/assessment.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:23 AM
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5. right
she touted her pro-bush record before she didn't break the 50% in the first round election. She likely thought that Bush's 70% approval rating in her state could be used to her benefit. No doubt she realized that her tactics were wrong and changed, but as I've learned before there is no room for second chances on DU.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 08:56 PM
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11. Wellstone voted with * 70% of the time.
that stat is misleading, because of all the procedural matters and legislation unanimously passed. It also weights all votes equally, therefore if a Republican votes against some appropiations bill because of some obscurish clause somewhere in it he doesn't like, it is counted as equal to Feingold's sole vote against the Patriot Act. That stat is meaningless.
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DaisyUCSB Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 08:55 PM
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10. Did anyone make those avatars?
Anyone know. I don't know why people need to bash Landreau. She's the best/strongest woman potential vp candidate. If you read the political journalism, that's pretty much a concensus opinion. Other than the right-wingers pushing for Hillary
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