Does anybody remember 1994? We are doomed again with HRC.

What is it with the "I've been taking on the right for 16 years and I keep beating them"? Hillary was the main reason we got 12 years of republican rule in congress. Not only will she lose the GE but Democrats will lose congress back to the republicans if she is the nominee. Mark my words, she is the great uniter of the republican party.

That is what you guys have bought into.

Can someone please tell me when she has ever "beaten" them?

Or maybe she is counting vicarious victories when she was the first lady of Arkansas and then the country.

So what was Obama doing in 1994?

The Clinton's were busy beating Republicans and taking names.

Oh, he's not.

Now neither candidate can win without Super Delegates.

I know that Bill has beaten them. I also know that Bill signed NAFTA into law. Does she take credit for that too?

You betcha.

Barack's ass is hurtin' after that burn.

There's a lot of newly elected Dems out there. A number of them winning closes races in red country. If they run again as a Hillary party candidate, they may find themselves out of a job. For that reason, and the fact Dean and his brilliant 50 state strategy will be run out of town, these officials are have an extremely tough decision in front of them.

Do you remember also that HRC's total debacle with health care helped cost us the House and set back health care reform for over a decade?

History has a funny way of repeating itself. That's why I've also commented on the OP:

"There's a lot of newly elected Dems out there. A number of them winning closes races in red country. If they run again as a Hillary party candidate, they may find themselves out of a job. For that reason, and the fact Dean and his brilliant 50 state strategy will be run out of town, these officials have an extremely tough decision in front of them."

?????

It was a rallying cry for the Contract Against America

Go figure...

democrats were to complacent, they didn't get off their collective dead asses and go vote, the republicans did therefore they won easily.IMO

And thank you for validating and confirming my numbers on a earlier post!

What is so hard about examining the problems with the Congress that lead to the 94 revolution. It was not Bill's fault geniuses.

And you can thank Al From for fucking up the Democratic Party from '92 to '06.

Hawkeye-X

The mess of his first two years weakened the party severely.

than argue with you.

its just a bunch of hot air. ANd I am happy to leave it that way since I could go provide a bunch of links to relevant info and you and your cohorts would just ignore it. Whats the point, it ain't worth my effort. If someone really wants to know the facts they can research the scandals and the Republican campaign focus that resulted in the 94 revolution.

much worse.

:cry: All of our leads, all of our progress down the drain.

And, of course, the Senate acquitted President Clinton shortly thereafter.

Compare that to Reagan after leaving office - his highest approval was 68%

Nice legacy, that.

And sorry, it's Hillary with all the RW contacts these days (i.e., Drudge, Murdoch).

And why are you asking us to remember 1994? I'm a little confused, here.

The 1994 Gingrich take over of congress.

Please be specific. If you're going to make wild claims like this...back it up with facts.

so you do the math!

Clinton's '35 years of change' omits most of her career: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/26377.html

How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/034

What does that have to do with what the OP is claiming?

Reason #1 to support Hillary:
In Arkansas she was instrumental in straightening out their school system - taking it from one of the worst systems to a role model used by other troubled schools on how to improve public education.

Reason #2 to support Hillary:
In 2006, she led the fight to kill the anti-gay Republican constitutional amendment that for the first time would have added laws to the Constitution that would INCREASE discrimination.

Reason #3 to support Hillary:
After being pummeled by the public for trying to pass Universal Health care while she was First Lady, she dusted herself off and in 1997, led a federal effort that provided insurance support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.

Reason #4 to Support Hillary:
She was able to secure a raise in research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

Reason #5 to Support Hillary:
She initiated the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

Reason #6 to Support Hillary:
She's authored a great deal of legislation during her years on the Armed Services Committee that has passed regarding increased and improved benefits for our returning Iraq veterans.

Reason #7 to Support Hillary:
She was one of the key Senators who fought to give our military badly needed raises and increase in benefits. For being such flag wavers, it was the Republicans and Bush who resisted these attempts to show our military how much we value and appreciate them.

Reason #8 to Support Hillary:
Since 1974 she has been fighting for a woman's right to choose.

Reason #9 to Support Hillary:
She is fighting to lift the ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases.

Reason #10 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

Reason #11 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)

Reason #12 to Support Hillary:
Vows to protect next generation by paying off national debt.

Reason #13 to Support Hillary:
Fought in Congress to "Help people facing foreclosure; don't just bail-out banks." (Aug 2007)

Reason #14 to Support Hillary:
In 1962 she met MLK Jr. preaching a sermon in Chicago and learned from him the importance of equal rights for all.

Reason #15 for Supporting Hillary:
In 1965 she brought black classmates to her until-then all-white church.

Reason #16 to Support Hillary:
Since 1995 has criticized China's human rights abuses.

Reason #17 to Support Hillary:
IN 1988 Instituted gender diversity Report Card within the American Bar Association, which sets standards for lawyers in the U.S.

Reason #18 to Support Hillary:
In 1972 worked as a lawyer suing white-only schools, working with Marian Wright Edelman on enforcing school desegregation in the South.

Reason #19 to Support Hillary:
In October, 2000 she said it's not enough for America just to apologize for slavery and move on; we need to concentrate on civil rights now.

Reason #20 to Support Hillary:
Has been pushing for a "Privacy Bill of Rights" for all Americans since 2000.

Reason #21 to support Hillary:
Will end don't ask, don't tell in the military, "Gay soldiers need to shoot straight, not be straight." November 2003.

Reason #22 to Support Hillary:
Supports civil unions, with full equality of federal benefits.

Reason #23 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on adding violent crimes based on victim's sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes.

Reason #24 to support Hillary:
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance.

Reason #25 to support Hillary:
Freedom of Speech: Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration.

Reason #26 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)

Reason #27 to Support Hillary:
Voted more funding and stricter sentencing for prosecution of hate crimes. (Apr 2001)

Reason #28 to Support Hillary:
Voted to Require DNA testing for all federal executions. (Mar 2001)

Reason #29 to Support Hillary:
Although she was in college during the height of the drug culture in the late 1960s, she was devoted to work on civil rights instead of partying and taking drugs.

Reason #30 to Support Hillary:
She is fighting for Universal pre-kindergarten.

Reason #31 to Support Hillary:
Wants to establish an education "Bill of Rights" - Establish right to education from pre-school thru college.

Reason #32 to Support Hillary:
Since 1998 has fought publicly to keep art and music programs in public schools. "Arts education is needed in our schools."

Reason #33 to Support Hillary:
'Government should pay off all student loans for teachers who go to urban schools." March, 2000

Reason #34 to Support Hillary:
Wants a complete re-write, a Total change in No Child Left Behind. (August, 2007)

Reason #35 to Support Hillary:
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes.

Reason #36 to Support Hillary
Voted YES on spending $448B on education & debt reduction instead of Bush's tax cut for the rich. (Apr 2001)

Reason #37 to Support Hillary:
Wants to "Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us." (Jun 2006)

Reason #38 to Support Hillary:
Wants to build a "$50B strategic energy research fund from taxing oil companies." (Oct 2006)

Reason #39 to Support Hillary:
Wants to Invest in alternative energy; jobs that won't be outsourced.

Reason #40 to Support Hillary:
Called on U.S. to Ratify Kyoto; and fund more mass transit. (Sep 2000)

Reason #41 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)

Reason #42 to Support Hillary:

Voted NO on drilling for oil in the Alaska National Wildlife Reserve on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)

Reason #43 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)

Reason #44 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)

Reason #45 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)

Reason #46 to Support Hillary: (listen up Louisiana!)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)

Reason #47 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)

Reason #48 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)

Reason #49 to Support Hillary:
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes.

Reason #50 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001)

Reason #51 to Support Hillary:
Called on Bush to "Put someone in charge of Katrina recovery who actually cares." (Aug 2007)

Reason #52 to Support Hillary:
Her Support for green-collar job training

Reason #53 to Support Hillary:
Introduced bill to Better track kids' products for exposures to toxic materials coming from China.

Reason #54 to support Hillary:
Calls for the government to treat kids as "child citizens" not "minors" under the law. (Since Dec 1999)

Reason #55 to Support Hillary:
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition

Reason #56 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include poor Eastern Europe nations. (May 2002

Reason #57 to Support Hillary:
"Smartest strategic choice is peace." (Nov 1999)

Reason #58 to Support Hillary:
Calling for a NATO-enforced no-fly zone to end Darfur genocide. (June, 2007

Reason #59 to Support Hillary:
IN the 1970s worked to pass Constitutional Amendment to allow young people aged 18, 19, 20 to vote.

Reason #60 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on allowing lobbyist gifts to Congress

Reason #61 to Support Hillary:
Pledges to support $50B for AIDS relief in US and world

Reason #62 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record.

Reason #63 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)

Reason #64 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)

Reason #65 to Support Hillary:
Says, "Torture cannot be American policy, period." (Sep 2007)

Reason #66 to Support Hillary:
She would never say anything as creepy and cult-like as "We are the ones we have been waiting for."

Reason #67 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record.

Reason # 68 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision. (Dec 2005)

Reason #69 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)

Reason #70 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)

Reason #71 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months. (Jul 2007)

Reason #72 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)

Reason #73 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)

Reason #74 to Support Hillary:
Voted: No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased.

Reason #75 to Support Hillary:
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)

Reason #76 to Support Hillary:
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record.

Reason #77 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)

Reason #78 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25.

Reason #79 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing

Reason #80 to Support Hillary:
Admits she made mistake in believing in WMDs in Iraq after being mislead by the Bush Administration.

Reason #81 to Support Hillary:
Reaches out to conservatives but voting record is progressive.

Reason #82 to Support Hillary:
"Karl Rove is obsessed with me because I take Republicans on & beat them." (Aug 2007)

Reason #83 to Support Hillary:
Served as a Staff attorney on Watergate/Nixon impeachment investigation.

Reason #84 to Support Hillary:
1976: Organized Indiana for Carter-Mondale campaign. She knows what it is like to work on a democrat campaign in RED STATES!

Reason #85 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation.

Reason #86 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Reason #87 to Support Hillary:
Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice.

Reason #88 to Support Hillary:
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record.

Reason #89 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on increasing tax deductions for college tuition.

Reason #90 to Support Hillary:
At Wellesley in 1968, steered college anti-war movement.

Reason #91 to Support Hillary:
Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women.

Reason #92 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)

Reason # 93 to Support Hillary:
1980s: Led her church to found the largest daycare in Arkansas.

Reason #94 to Support Hillary:
1978: chaired Legal Services Corp. in President Carter's Administration - allowing Poor Families access to legal aid

Reason #95 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on implementing the 9/11 Commission report to get us out of Iraq in a fast, safe manner.

Reason #96 to Support Hillary:
Voted YES on restoring $565M for states' and ports' first responders eliminated by the Bush Administration.

Reason #97 to Support Hillary:
Worked with Evan Bayh, Al Gore, Bill Clinton and others in the 1980s to rejuvenate the Democratic Party from within.

Reason #98 to Support Hillary:
In 1969, she entered law school as "vehicle for social change."

Reason #99 to Support Hillary:
Calls to Increase spending for libraries.

Reason #100 to Support Hillary:
In October, 2006 - called for "Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately.

There's a lot of newly elected Dems out there. A number of them winning closes races in red country. If they run again as a Hillary party candidate, they may find themselves out of a job. For that reason, and the fact Dean and his brilliant 50 state strategy will be run out of town, these officials have an extremely tough decision in front of them.

I can't wait to see who is wrong and who is right. And if they ever admit they were wrong.

It was that damn Hillary trying to give us universal healthcare!

Without googling, name me the specifics on the democratic scandals. I know there were some but I can't name them. I do remember, contract with America and Hillary Care. Now go ask the next five conservatives why the republicans took the house in '94. I'll bet you every one of them says Hillary care and can't name one scandal with any specificity. Perception is much stronger than reality.

One was the Post Office scandal which took out Dem heavy Rostenkowski. Then there was the Congressional Bank in which over a dozen Democrats bounced checks and they got fried for it In fact 1994 is comparative to 2006 in some ways in terms of scandal and ethics paving the way for the opposition party.

Couple those scandals with retirement and at the time the best slate of candidate the GOP had produced since the early 80's, when they took the Senate, riding a unified message of ethical reform(their Contract with America, a supposed ethical contract that included quasi-populist notions like term limit) all while the Wurlitzer of talk Radio was finding its influence to be far reaching.

"Perception is much stronger than reality."

Yes but history and the facts say otherwise.

Conservatives think the 50's were some kind of golden age should we allow that perception to cloud the reality?