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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:58 AM Original message |
Texas Caucuses were unruly, undemocratic Joke! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. bwahahaha. More whining from hillyworld |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Cheat? Who said anything about cheating? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The OP |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I don't agree with the OPs argument, but I think it's a little stretch to call it cheating |
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Snowbot (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. They sure think they can. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. You're painting with an awfully broad brush there |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I like the description "irritated mob.". Sounds like GDP since Tuesday. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Of course. Disenfrahchising FL and MI is OK. But having superdelegates vote is cheating? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. I am sick of the complaining about caucuses. they didn't expect |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. correct your title: "Caucus at United High School in Laredo was Running Late" |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Did you read the article? |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Caucuses |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Fellow Washingtonian here. :) |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. Well it was a disorganized mess at our Washington caucus, too, and not run by the rules |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Ours ran quite well, thank you. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Thank you. People need to remember Texas had both a primary |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. What a nice post! Ours went pretty smoothly in Collin County. |
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demmie (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. I wonder if we were at the same caucus? |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Precinct 55 here! |
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demmie (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Was a lifelong Chicagoan... |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. WRONG! We had a record, over-flowing turnout and the process |
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twompy (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Across the state? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
67. A DUer was at that caucus; it appears the Clinton camp was |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Go to the Texas forum. |
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endelfam (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. Democracy in action... |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Thank you |
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Same here, Houston |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. A joke, just like like the notion |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
13. Bill Clinton didn't mind the system ..TWICE.. |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. "I like a president who can plan ahead for any contingency " |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's why we are bogged down in Iraq.. piss-poor planning n/t |
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ObamaWinsWH09 (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Hi SoCal |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. hi YOU.. & welcome to DU |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
17. Our caucus went fine |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. I really fail to see how this can be called "democracy." |
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ObamaWinsWH09 (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You might have a point... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. caucus votes do not count toward the TOTAL vote..only for the remaining delegates |
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scarface2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. wrong |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. but.. was the tally total ADDED to the primary popular vote count? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. The Texas Delegate Convention is progressive |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. The caucuses were a disgrace |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
27. That's not what I saw on TV |
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. The caucus can't begin until the last voter votes - and Clinton got most of the delegates in Laredo |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
29. You're Absolutely Right. They Are A Farce, Undemocratic, And I'm Amazed They Exist At All. |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
30. "All Caucuses shouldn't count... err.. except for Nevada".. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
32. Awwww, sounds like someone needs a hug. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. Waiting for the LAW SUIT... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. STOP WHINING |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
36. Texas doesn't count. n/t |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. LOL!! n/t |
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blocker (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
37. IT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. The Primary was Democracy |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. And the caucus is democracy for people who actually give a shit... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That is an elitist position |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. it's "elitist" not to want Rush and his dittoheads to game our primary? |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
38. The Very Idea |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Nobody is losing anything at night |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Yeah, but they didn't go the way they were "supposed" to go so something (anything!) must be wrong. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. and yet you Clintonites accept the concept of superdelegates... |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. I really hate both of these candidates however |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
39. Caucuses weed out "malicious participation" such as vote gaming by the opposite party... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
54. You have to be kidding me. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. I'm not -- the right really did make such an attempt in the Texas primary... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
45. correct. would we allow caucuses to determine the GE? nt |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. It is not feasible; otherwise |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I think everyone should stick to rules set at start, but why do you think caucus better than voting? |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. "Caucusing" actually is a form of voting - and the vote is TRANSPARENT |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. My comment was a very general one |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
48. The caucus at my precinct was a mess. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
51. awww, yer sore you lost again.... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
53. I agree. It's also biased against people who can't be there. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Oh, give me a break. I had both my kids there. My husband is self employed |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Actually, we had a good system. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
58. What is the point of this? |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:55 AM Original message |
And we don't lock doors in Texas. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. I only spent about 30 minutes at the caucus. You didn't have to devote 3 hours if you didn't want |
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d.amber (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
60. Give them a break |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
62. There is nothing undemocratic about caucuses. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
64. . |
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wildflowergardener (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
65. caucuses |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. I call it "advocacy psychosis" - when "your side" determines the value, instead of principle. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
66. My caucus went very well, actually. After I forced them to let us in. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
79. I waited outside for almost two hours in a suburb of Dallas |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
80. if she wins, she'll be the most victimized leader of the free world ever. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. OH Bullshit. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
85. I hope you Clinton folks take this activism and change the system for the next primary season |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
86. Obama will probably ask for caucuses in the GE, too |
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