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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:52 PM Original message |
New 50-state matchups from Survey USA |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Either will win. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. But Obama wins by a bigger, safer margin |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And loses NJ and PA to McCain |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. I really doubt he loses either. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Not Pennsylvania |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Please explain why PA is trending blue in the last 3 presential elections |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Dems to VERY well in Philadelphia & Pittsburgh (and that's where everybody lives) |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. With Obama, the Philly turnout will blow the rest of the state away. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
81. And don't think Hillary would lose WA and OR. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. I don't believe NJ |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Yeah, me neither. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. There is another way of looking at this, Tom |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. But Clinton's lead is broad enough that she wins even without Washington and Oregon |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yes, North Dakota is very safe. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. North Dakota is safe |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. But people know nothing about him - that's what worries me. What will the Reps come up with? |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
86. There's nothing there. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. 4 whopping EVs. I'm so impressed. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. don't count alaska out yet. we are mired in HUGE repug scandal here. |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Proving once again that Obama is better in the GE..... take notes SDs! |
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tgnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Pretty minor difference. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. They showed this on Fox. It is based on polls. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Not proof of anything |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. No Dem will lose NJ, OR, or WA... nor PA |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. You are mistaken about PA... it is not at all safe |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'll give you PA as a tossup and throw in WI |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I have a friend from central PA |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. PA will be tight... historic toss up but very good for us since 1988 |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. As an Oregonian, I agree that WA and OR are safe. Remember when |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Original message |
Cool! The only thing I completely doubt is McCain winning NJ and PA |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. I can see McCain possibly winning PA - It's been a swing state for a while |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I think recent history goes against him: |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. 2006 was not a normal year, and president is different from Senate |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nice one |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
10. Obama wins Michigan and Hillary loses? Promising for a recount |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. That's odd, isn't it? |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
80. I noticed that first off |
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DemzRock (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. Kewl cool kewl! So either one is ahead of McCain right now, eh? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Interesting... and probably not very relevant at this point |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And Nebraska has stripes! |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I noticed that |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. nk splits their electoral votes. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. I did not know that, thanks n/t |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. so hillary is going to win Florida and Obama is going to lose New Jersey |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. What a cluster-fuck. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. Even with Hillary and McCain teaming up and outright lying about Obama, he still does better. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. Obama wins Arizona?? I'm sorry, I can't believe that. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. That's New Mexico, not Arizona |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Are we looking at the same map? |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Are you sure? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Okay, it's red now but I swear it was blue before. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Help is evidently required |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Shut up! I know where AZ is. I live here! I swear the map was blue! |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. I'm sorry... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. McFly? hello? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Of course, I meant McCain is an institution here. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. No way we lose PA, MI, or NJ. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. We came damn near losing PA in 2004. I campaigned there |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. True, but Obama could put them on the defensive elsewhere |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. 2004 was an unusual circumstance. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Lived In Florida Since 1970...I'm Not Surprised At All |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. Hillary would lose WA and OR |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. Obama outperforms Hillary in 33 states, Hillary outperforms Obama in 15 states. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. I posted this in the previous post about these maps |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. OMG!! MY STATE HAS STRIPES?!?!?!! |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. The stripes are because NE splits its electoral votes |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. Map shows only Clinton losing Wa.state |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. No way ... |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. SUSA has been very accurate it's freaky |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. Barack will win PA in November (and NJ) |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
50. My beautiful purple state (VA) is going to turn BLUE for Obama! nt |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Woo hoo! |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. These polls are interesting, |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
55. Yikes, that's still pretty scary. |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. ***Prediction*-Hillary or Barack will win TX |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. If she would campaign In Texas, yes |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. Both maps look legit with possible swings like Hillary will not win FL |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Obama would lose Ohio and win PA. Hillary will lose FL. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Hillary will win Ohio, and Fla |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Can't agree with you on Florida. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
69. If Michigan turns red, a piece of my soul will die. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. Obama would win NJ and probably PA and MO. What's up with Hillary in MI? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I can tell you what is up with Hillary in MI... |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
72. Wait! I thought only Hillary wins the big Blue states? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. I wouldn't roll those little peepers if I were you. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
73. Not surprised that NH would go red for McCain, but it's curious that it would stay blue with Obama. |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
84. Ain't happening... Dem turnout (for Obama) will be HUGE |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
85. Winning in November: Obama's Electoral Math |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
87. McCain will beat both easily,. |
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printpolitico (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
88. pissed off Floridians |
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