A lot of talk about VP choices, yet...

no word of my main man Wes. Plenty of mention about republican, pro-lifer John McCain, but no mention of Wes. From the looks of things here, a lot of people on DU would love to see Wesley Clark and no one else as VP. By that rationale, it would seem that a lot of democrats around the country would like the same thing. Does the media just want to make us unhappy? What is their fucking problem? Are they under some kind of gag order to prevent them from ever saying Wes Clark and Vice President in the same sentence?

They would rather have a Gephardt that they could wipe the floor with or McCain.

If Kerry selected McCain they would say'''"Flip Flop"
They would never put a known Democrat on their ticket.
If Kerry, a liberal Democrat, would pick a Republican, what are HIS true beliefs they would say in their next Ad.

The Repubs put Aarold on the ticket in CA because they knew he was in their pocket.

You don't think they would've been talking about it on CNN everyday if it was Davis/Bustamante vs. McClintock, do you?

Clark is going on a lot of TV shows.

However I want Edwards to be VP.

Wes Clark registers only in the single digits as Democrats' top choices for the VP nomination in national polls. He places well behind several other candidates, some of whose names never received near as much press play.

Wes Clark is a good candidate, but he has only a small following outside DU. I don't know how he came to be so popular here, but I remember at one point someone mentioning that his campaign people post quite a bit here? Maybe I'm wrong about that.

Regardless, I know I'm not wrong about this: Outside this forum, Wes Clark is not Democrats' favorite VP candidate in any poll.

are you representative of Democrats outside of DU? Why?

I wouldn't say that I am representative of Democrats outside DU because Clark is at least my second choice (which is probably not true of non-DU Democrats).

Regardless, I would say no: I am not representative of Democrats outside this forum; however, my view on that particular issue is.

I won't rehash and dig up all the polls that have been done on the issue. I'm sure you've seen them posted.

Like you, Wes Clark is my second choice for VP; I truly like him, and have defended him here repeatedly, as any long-time DU-er will affirm. Nonetheless, your statement about how Democrats in general feel about him is correct: he scores in the low single digits. Among Democrats polled (repeatedly), Sen. Edwards remains the clear favorite.

I don't know what a Democrat "outside DU" is like, since I both agree and disagree with various things talked about on DU and, well, I'm on DU.

But as far as Wes Clark goes --- HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT. I loved the whole idea of Wes Clark -- General, "tough", intelligent -- but he proved to be a total zero. Boring, awkward on TV, poor speaker, not too sharp in the debates. Nothin'.

I do think, though, that the "idea of Wes Clark" might be valuable in the VP slot. Edwards is too slick and WAY more glossy than Kerry. Clark would make Kerry seem like a more electric speaker and at the same time lend the whole "idea of Wes Clark" to the ticket.

Hmm. Clark just might be the perfect VP.

I think all the main VP choices this time around suck.

despite having at most 15 percent support here. DU is not proportionatly representative of the broad dem electorate.

The media is generally reporting about who they have gathered from Kerry's campaign and the DNC brass, is in consideration. Clark has not shown any real interest in the Kerry veepstakes and likely vice-versa.

It's clear that McCain has ruled it out on another note. Any lazy journalists continuing to speculate about it are obviously not deserving of any esteem whatsoever.

Wes is the Rethug and corp/media/whores worst nightmare!
They are damn :scared: of him. He's our secret weapon!:evilgrin:

why don't they blow clark out of the water and ask him some tough questions about his war crimes in the former yugoslavia?

Graham or Edwards all these other names are just names to fill out a list.

And Edwards is the odds-on favorite, IMO.

With the knowledge of what happened last election, I don't think that Kerry will put everything on Florida by picking Graham. Edwards won't even deliver his home state and Kerry beat him in every southern primary except SC (Where Edwards spent tons of time of money and Kerry did not) and Oklahoma.

that's who he will choose. A VP candidate doesn't have to bring his home state to the tivket to be selected; he/she can help in other states, and this is something Edwards could definitely do.

it's not just about their own state but helping in other ways also. graham would of course make a great vp and president, but even more important is getting elected. and edwards could help more in that way than graham can in my opinion.

The VP job is political, especially in the campaign. Plus Edwards has a working man/rural appeal that works not just in the South.

I think Clark along with Richard Holbrooke will be working as part of a foreign policy group within the campaign that will be working hard but quietly to have a new foreign policy ready to be put in place immediately following Kerry's inauguration.

It may be considered to be presumptuous or unprofessional to put such a group together before winning the election, but it's become obvious that the there's no time to waste.

but he will be helpful in the electorate as a whole. He may help get the messages out in FL, ARK, LA, and South Carolina. And he can campaign with the people running for Senate seats in the south.

But I'm not terribly interested if he helps the ticket be competitive in NC (or SC), or not. I do think he'd help the Southern Senate candidates, which is an important consideration.

Mainly I think he'd help with those who are suspicious of Kerry's background being a little too detached from the working man. I think he'd help in Ohio, Missouri, downstate Virginia, Arkansas, etc

The fact is that they mesh together well.

I like Clark quite a bit, but I just think his value will be better applied to being part of the foreign policy team that will have to clean up a friggin huge mess.

and rolled right through. It feels like it could happen again.