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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:45 AM
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Poll question: What's the greatest threat to Kerry's election - REVISED!
I left out 2 crucial factors on the original poll and its been driving me crazy! Folks, I'll understand if you're tired of this song and dance, but being somewhat OCD, I just can't help myself!!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:55 AM
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1. a sex scandal.........what else?
It is the one thing that galvanizes the crazies.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:57 AM
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3. Yes, that was the first thing the wingnuts tried.
Didn't stick. Time for Plan B.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:17 AM
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10. they are trying to spread it again as if it's fact
they are saying kerry doesn't trust clark because he told people about kerry's affairs. they make no mention of that woman involved denying it herself. by doing this they attack both kerry and clark. clark is one of kerry's biggest supporters. most would think that public endorsement would have been enough, but he went right back campaigning and raising money for kerry and continues to speak for him and attend events for him, and many other candidates. there is no way kerry would allow someone to do so much on his behalf if he didn't trust them.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:37 AM
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11. I put sex under Rove's propoganda
and that doesn't work without the assistance of the media whores
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:43 PM
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18. Many of these factors can be part of a domino effect.
So far * is pushing down his own dominos, and trying to cover his arse from accusations of warmongering or worse. So we may not have to worry much about him having the time or energy to go after Kerry's dominos. That's why the BBV issue seems so critical to me in the final analysis.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:56 AM
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2. Other
..democrats shooting themselves in foot!!! The evidence supporting why these people should not be in charge is so overwhelming/compelling that only a failure of the Dems to articulate this could put Bush & Co. back in the White House. We have to get down and dirty like they do. We have to use the Repubs playbook. The Repubs are better at this than the Dems are and our side needs to get up to speed real fast.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:59 AM
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4. I totally agree!
This must be a 'take no prisoners' campaign.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:13 AM
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5. If a large, must-win state for the Dems is rigged and the corporate media
supports the theft, as they did in Florida 2000, then it's all over.

The only hope is that the corporate media is losing faith in the Bush regime. If that persists through to Nov. 2, then there is a good chance that Kerry will win.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:24 AM
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6. We have so much ammo on Bush
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 10:24 AM by DaveSZ
that the election is Kerry's to lose at this point.


If he doesn't reach out and grab it by the balls, it's his own damn fault if he loses.

I agree with the above sentiments that we need to get down and dirty in this campaign. The Repukes show us no mercy, and neither should we show them mercy.

Let's attack Bush 24/7 on his lies and failure of leadership, and some of the mud will stick. The Repukes have proven this tactic works well, and indeed their first weapon they reach for is immediately flinging dirt.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:31 AM
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7. Voted Kerry again. I think it is HIS to lose.
And so far I think he is not doing what he needs to win it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:16 AM
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9. I agree absolutely. Now is not the time for the nominee to hold back.
The shit is hitting the proverbial fan right now and this is when Kerry needs to start speaking up. It was mentioned on Bill Moyers yesterday that Kerry's main problem may be that he may not have the killer instinct (my words) that it will take to win this election, that he may just be too gentlemanly to strike when he needs to. I am beginning to think this is exactly the case.

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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:28 PM
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17. I suppose it is better that he make these mistakes NOW than later...
But we saw how Dukakis was able to lose it through "gentlemanliness" back in the day.

I hope Kerry will not fall into that trap.

In any case, his moral failure to lead on Iraq has become embarassing.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:12 AM
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8. I'm surprised BBV isn't getting more votes.
:shrug:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:34 PM
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13. me too . . . imo, that's the ONLY thing that will prevent Kerry . . .
from being elected . . . by November, Bush fatigue and the continuing stream of revelations will make BushCo toast, EXCEPT for the fact that they own the voting machines . . . if anyone believes that they won't manipulate the vote in key states to their advantage, then you haven't been paying attention . . . they've already done it, haven't gotten caught, so they'll do it again . . .

it's not who votes that counts . . . it's who counts the votes . . .
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:55 PM
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14. With * is so discredited and the situation in Iraq escalating into
an eternal hell on earth, I believe my pet rock could beat him. That's unless he gets a lot of help from his Diebold pals.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:42 AM
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12. I said Media Whores
1) Nader is no threat
2) Dems eating Dems is not my worry. The Dems are pretty united with very few exceptions and who listens to Lieberman anyhow.
3) Rove's propoganda doesn't work without the assistance of the Media Whores
4) While Kerry himself is certainly a factor, I believe he knows how tto fight. The evidence so far (ex. winning the primaries, beating Bush* in polls after Bush* spent $40million in ads, etc) supports my belief
5) BBV isn't a factor is Kerry has an obvious lead, however it is a serious concern of mine
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:51 AM
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19. Unless we get accurate reports about his lead, the BBV crooks
could still pull it off.
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Fritz_da_Cat420 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:07 PM
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15. Other
My biggest concern that Bush will declare martial law and cancel the election, and all future elections. My opinion is a President Kerry will rejoin the World Court opening the Bush Cabal ti indictments for war crimes. We do not have a president, we have a dictator.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:12 PM
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16. Welcome to DU Fritz da Cat!
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 02:17 PM by saywhat
Oh, and I totally agree with your post. * is a wannabe dictator now, but if he lets another major terrorist attack occur, he'll have an excuse to become the real thing. :scared:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:25 AM
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20. If Kerry breaks lose of his fears, he'll win.
If he can't shake them, he'll lose.

He has to show leadership to win. It's pretty simple.
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