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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:05 PM
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Check out the Pennsylvania Democratic Party Home page. Obama is winning their poll
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 05:09 PM by John Q. Citizen
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:07 PM
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1. Wow. And 58% of the respondents were female.
Uh oh.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:21 PM
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8. ARG-Poll: Hillary...52%... Obama 41%
March 9, 2008 - Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Preference


Pennsylvania

Democrats Mar 7-8

Clinton..... 52%
Obama....... 41%

Someone else 1%
Undecided 6%

Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton 59% to 38% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 63% to 27%.

Clinton leads 63% to 29% among white voters (78% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 89% to 7% among African American voters (18% of likely Democratic primary voters).

Clinton leads 47% to 45% among voters age 18 to 49 (55% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 58% to 37% among voters age 50 and older.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:46 PM
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19. She needs to blow him out of the water in PA
10 or 11 pts won't do it. Watch for hilly's squalid campaigning to ratchet up. She's desperate and will do anything, to win. Anything.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:51 PM
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21. You sound so desperate saying that
I think there are a lot of paranoid Obama supporters that will say or do anything to denounce Hillary. It's the way of the Obama camp.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:55 PM
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23. I certainly don't presume to speak for all Obama supporters, but
I'm not paranoid, but I do indeed despise HRC. Her tactics over the past few weeks have done nothing but make me despise her more.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:00 PM
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25. um, you would be wrong. I've said repeatedly that I'll vote
for the dem nominee whoever it is, because President McCain is not a sane option, but honestly I don't think I'll need my clothespin. I believe that barring anything unforeseen, Obama will be the nominee. Methinks you're projecting.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:17 PM
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29. cali, I'll vote for whomever is the nominee but
until then it's a fight to the bloody end. May the best man or woman win. :)
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:41 PM
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36. 11 points is not so bad
He was down 21 in a Quinnipiac poll a month ago. If he can cut that 11 point lead in half he's in good shape.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:07 PM
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2. yes, but can barack win an internet poll against ron paul! :D
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:08 PM
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3. yeah I did not see where it told you the total votes
only %'s did I miss that?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:12 PM
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4. Read the analysis by the professor who is running the poll. Dr. J. Lamar Pierce PhD.
He gives totals and the breakdowns of the demographics
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:15 PM
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5. Maybe Teresa Heinz Kerry will campaign
for Obama in PA? :)
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:16 PM
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6. We can only hope
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:18 PM
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7. PA is Hiilary's familys home base..Her Dad and Mom were born there..
I hope she claims the high PA ground there.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:23 PM
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10. Yes, Hillary's family is from Pa and
Her brother was a quarterback at Penn State so I imagine we will see Joe Paterno out there for Hillary as well.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:21 PM
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9. online poll so probably a younger demographic then the population
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:24 PM
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11. It's been speculated by the talking heads that Obama will do very
well in the places with high concentrations of voters and Hillary will do better in the other areas. Should be interesting.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:33 PM
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14. What do you mean he will do well in high populated areas
And Hillary wont? Why can't she do well in high populated areas?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:36 PM
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15. I'm just reporting what I heard. I think it has to do with us latte drinking,
Volvo drivers hanging around the cities and burbs as opposed to the country.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:43 PM
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18. You mean everyone in a high populated area drive volvos
and drink starbucks? Because I know many folks living in the high populated areas that don't need a car much less a volvo? So is there more to it then your saying?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:49 PM
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20. I'm sorry - I mistook you for someone with a sense of humor. nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:24 PM
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12. This unscientific poll is being obamaed.
These results mean NOTHING.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:29 PM
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13. LOL!
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:38 PM
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16. Is that similar to DUing and/or freeping?
and if so, isn't that how these things work online?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:54 PM
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22. Show me a scientific poll that you agree with.
"These results mean NOTHING." They do to the folks voted them.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:07 PM
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26. The obama caucuses provide the same KIND of results as THIS poll.
HEAVILY manipulated. If that's the kind of results YOU like, then so be it. I prefer a PURE DEMOCRATIC process that isn't manipulated for a fraudulent result; NO peer pressure, NO intimidation, NO stuffing the ballot boxes.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:16 PM
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28. Is this a precursor to PA doesn't count?
:rofl:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:29 PM
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30. NO. obama's underhanded manipulation of caucuses shouldn't count.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:58 PM
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33. Obama has won more primaries and caucuses, but don't let facts get in your way.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:39 PM
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35. I didn't know 'won' was synonymous with 'manipulate'.............
when we're talking about caucuses. There is NOTHING democratic about a caucus.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:14 AM
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38. It's a shame Hillary didn't fix that when she was in the White House. I guess she just didn't care
as long as Bill was winning them.

Bad judgement on her part, apparently.

And no complaints at all this season, until she started losing them. At that point she realise how inherantly wrong they are.

Yawn.

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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:43 PM
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17. Few things are more worthless than an online poll
N/T
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:59 PM
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24. Did you vote? It requires an email address so that should weed out a lot of the noise.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:13 PM
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27. I didn't even look to vote...
for some reason it seemed like it was not your run-of-the-mill on-line poll.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:57 PM
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32. I didn't vote either. Your right, it doesn't look like a run of the mill on-line poll.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:32 PM
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31. Online polls had Ron Paul winning the Rep. nomination
they don't mean anything.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:51 PM
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34. They sent out an email about a week ago asking people to respond
Once it gets posted on the web, the results will be less meaningful.

When I voted, it was 60% female with 62% Obama -- and that was about 4 days after the email went out.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:43 PM
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37. Ed Rendell will deliver PA to Hillary at all costs....
..that was apparent after his 'performance' on MTP today. Forget the will of the people...it will not count.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:20 AM
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39. So I guess that means Obama is favored to win PA. If Hillary finds a way to take the Keystone State
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:21 AM by smalll
it will be a massive expectational victory for her.

Seriously though, Obama wins an internet poll? An internet poll? Where half the respondents (at least) have to be high school kids texting in their vote on their iPods in the middle of double-period English? Quelle surprise!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:24 AM
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40. Did you read the analysis from the PhD who is running it for the Democratic Party of PA?
I thought it was interesting that the Democratic Party of Pennsylvania has a poll up on their official site.

I didn't know that Ipods were telephonic devices that could access the net.

But a young person like yourself would probably know more about that than a middle aged adult like myself.

I thought Ipods were for playing music and videos downloaded off a computer.

I wouldn't pretend to know how accurate the poll is. I thought it was interesting that Obama won Wisconsin by 20% when all the traditional polls I read had them running much closer.

I guess you know a lot more about the poll I posted a link to than I do.

For instance, you know that half the respondants are high school kids. I didn't know that.

Thanks for sharing your information.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:15 AM
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41. For those of us that are educated in statistics...
...we realize a poll like this is unscientific and meaningless.
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