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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:49 AM
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So...Now Obama is the most liberal Senator
More liberal than
Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold and Pat Leahy

4 years ago It was John Kerry
In 2000 Al Gore
96 Clinton was a tye-dye wearing, hemp clothes manufacturing hippie
92 Clinton was tied with Cuomo as the most liberal. (And he was the same as Dukakis in every aspect)
88 Dukakis was the most liberal governor

You got to hand it to conservatives. They aren't totally opposed to recycling...

They love to recycle their worn out talking points

Oh, and don't forget Obama and/or Clinton will raise your taxes

One last thing, I'll bet if Clinton was the nominee -- She'd be the most liberal Senator
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:57 AM
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1. This is coming from the Hillary campaign. Last week they said he was a republican. Flip floppers.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:10 AM
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3. Actually it comes from here
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:49 AM
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11. rpannier, this is direct from the Clinton camp. A direct quote from Mark Penn


From The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/17/080317fa_fact_lizza?printable=true

Clinton is stressing in all her appearances—another point that Penn sees as essential—that Obama will appear distinctly weaker on national-security questions in relation to McCain. (This infuriates Obama’s supporters—after all, he alone among the surviving candidates opposed the invasion of Iraq.) The Clinton campaign will also press the claim that Obama will not be able to withstand heightened scrutiny of his domestic-policy views. The implication is that Obama is unacceptably liberal, while Clinton, despite the similarity of her positions and voting record, is not. “How much do Independent voters really know about Barack Obama, his voting record, and his past positions?” Penn asked recently. “Certainly less than Democrats know. In a general election the Republicans would spring into action, and quickly, if he were the nominee, roll out his full record. And the kind of Independent support that you see in places like Idaho would consequently evaporate.”

Penn pushed this idea last week when he told me, “People want to have a nominee that’s going to win. So a lot of the things they accepted initially may not hold up. Independent and Republican support is diminishing as they find out he’s the most liberal Democratic senator”—a reference to recent rankings by the National Journal. “As they get more of a sense that he’s not ready to be Commander-in-Chief, a lot of Independents who were supporting him are disappearing.”

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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:28 AM
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4. Why do you spread that rumor?
It came from the RW mags and their buttholes -- you had your nose up there? Just askin'. Hillary's not my candidate but with people like you, she might be.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:47 AM
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9. anniebelle, vote for whoever your little heart desires. But this is coming from the Clinton camp.
It's a direct quote.

From The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/17/080317fa_fact_lizza?printable=true

Clinton is stressing in all her appearances—another point that Penn sees as essential—that Obama will appear distinctly weaker on national-security questions in relation to McCain. (This infuriates Obama’s supporters—after all, he alone among the surviving candidates opposed the invasion of Iraq.) The Clinton campaign will also press the claim that Obama will not be able to withstand heightened scrutiny of his domestic-policy views. The implication is that Obama is unacceptably liberal, while Clinton, despite the similarity of her positions and voting record, is not. “How much do Independent voters really know about Barack Obama, his voting record, and his past positions?” Penn asked recently. “Certainly less than Democrats know. In a general election the Republicans would spring into action, and quickly, if he were the nominee, roll out his full record. And the kind of Independent support that you see in places like Idaho would consequently evaporate.”

Penn pushed this idea last week when he told me, “People want to have a nominee that’s going to win. So a lot of the things they accepted initially may not hold up. Independent and Republican support is diminishing as they find out he’s the most liberal Democratic senator”—a reference to recent rankings by the National Journal. “As they get more of a sense that he’s not ready to be Commander-in-Chief, a lot of Independents who were supporting him are disappearing.”

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:07 AM
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2. This coming from the Hillary campaign, you just know McCain will use this against us
Isn't that just lovely.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:33 AM
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5. Its from the RW,BTW Obama is not the most Liberal,Look at their criteria
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:52 AM by MojoMojoMojo
of National Journal.They choose irrelevant issues and score for votes missed.Obama voted the party line.Except when he voted right wing.
Yes on GOP Class action bill,No 30% cap on interest,Cloture on filibuster for Bush judicial appointments are the most revealing
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:45 AM
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6. BTW this is the primaries ,Candidates appeal to the extreme to get nominated
And they paint their opponent as too centrist.
During the GE they go centrist and paint their opponent as too extreme left or right.That is when the National Journal will be used against Obama.
Have you figured out that evil Hillary is not involved yet?
Your blaming Hillary is pathetic.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:47 AM
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7. Actually this came from the National Journal
And it's obvious from your PATHETIC response your DIDN'T READ MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because if you had you would have noted

One last thing, I'll bet if Clinton was the nominee -- She'd be the most liberal Senator

which is at the end

Remember RIF... Reading is Fundamental
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:52 AM
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8. "Most liberal" and inexperienced
Yes, a disaster in the making. The right-wing would have field day on this guy!
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:48 AM
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10. I've had people who SERIOUSLY believe he's a socialist!
I try to educate them, but it goes in one ear and out the other.
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