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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:14 PM
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Poll question: How many here support both candidates?
I was wondering how many DU'ers actually support both candidates. For example, are willing to give money to both and generally like both. Clearly a small minority, but just how small?
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:16 PM
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1. Only Obama
Won't even consider a vote for Hillary
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:17 PM
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2. At 10 votes total, 50% support both
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 PM by andym
That is great! Shows that a lot of us believe we have two great candidates.

update 1:
The percentage is falling now, but still encouraging.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:18 PM
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4. The haters are probably busy in other threads.
:)
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:45 PM
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15. self-delete
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 05:46 PM by andym
replied to wrong post
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:21 PM
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32. Update @116 votes 21% support for both-- not bad at all
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:18 PM
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3. Obama will get my vote should he be the nominee, as far as I know.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 PM
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5. While Clinton is my US Senator, I voted for Obama in the primary
because I felt that Obama's campaign was closer to Howard Dean's "50-State Strategy".

That said, whoever gets the Democratic nomination will have my vote in November. No Republikkkan or third-party bullshit for this voter!

As for $$$, I feel my money is better spent on helping the "down-ticket" candidates (Senator, Congress, Governor, state legislatures, etc) and rebuilding the state Democratic Parties. That's why I became one of Howard Dean's "Democracy Bond Holders" and Jim Dean's "DFA Trust".

:kick::kick:
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:27 PM
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6. A very smart strategy to support the Democracy Bond Holders
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:36 PM
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7. I don't "support" either one.
I'll vote for whomever I'm forced to. It won't be McCain.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:37 PM
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8. I support Obama, I will begrudgingly vote for Hillary if she gets the
nomination.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:57 PM
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9. kick n/t
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:00 PM
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10. I support Obama as much as I support Hillary.
Not very much. Obama has a slight edge, though.

Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards both have my full support.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:00 PM
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11. HRC going negative has destroyed any support I could have mustered
So now I don't plan on being active if she gets the nomination. I won't give her money or time and maybe even my vote.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:01 PM
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12. So far..
Obama gets the vote of 86% of respondents - Hillary gets the vote of 34% in the GE
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:01 PM
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13. I support Hillary but can accept Obama; it is his DU supporters
that turn my stomach, that make me question whether I will be able to vote for him if he is the nominee.

I selected the supporting both option, because I hope that cooler heads will prevail.

I had to go to LBN to find out why we are on DefCon2, or something.

Why should Spitzer being morally challenged have anything to do with Hillary?

Are all Obama supporters going around with halos around their heads?

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:05 PM
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14. What do you mean by "support"?
I'm okay with either of them as our nominee. Donated to Obama and wear the avatar.

Haven't donated to Hillary, but will if she's our candidate.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:47 PM
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16. By support I mean ...
By support I mean willing to tell others something positive about each and willing to contribute to their campaign at some point.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:14 AM
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26. Willing to contribute to the Obama campaign "at some point"
Like in 2016? ;-)
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:48 PM
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17. Hillary - Obama scares me
I don't know if he could handle a major crisis in the United States. National security is a concern with Obama. Maybe he could get good advisors but he would still have to make a decision.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:14 AM
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18. I have no national security concerns for either of them
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 02:25 AM by andym
If national security is a very high priority, I do think it would have been wise to make someone like Wes Clark president because he really has a lifetime of national security and international relations experience and has been tested in battle (under crisis).

But there is a big step down from someone like Clark to both Clinton and Obama when it comes to national security. The biggest problem is that neither has directly served in either the military or a managerial role where they might have had to successfully manage a severe crisis. Such experience is very telling. For example, it should have been clear from George W Bush's business experience that he would not do well under crisis (unless you consider bankruptcy as an outcome doing well).

Minor experience in international negotiations or testimonials from knowlegable folks like generals (including Clark for Hillary) or secretaries of the navy/army/air force (like those who came out for Obama today) are helpful, but are not convincing, because they do not directly demonstrate the mettle of the leader. And even those who have been tested successfully like JFK in WWII still managed to make decisions that arguably could have led to WWIII (Cuban missile crisis).

However, both Hillary and Barack both are highly intelligent, seem fairly non-emotional, have strong social skills, are highly motivated and well read which gives them the right kind of background to make the correct decision in times of crisis. I think that is as much as can be hoped for.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:18 AM
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19. I wish for the Republicans to lose.
Both Sen. Clinton, and Sen. Obama, are moderates, both have quite similar views. I am much further to the left than they are, but I wish for a Democrat in the White House. Impeach Bush and Cheney!
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:20 AM
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20. I will...
support Obama with a Hillary ticket but not a Hillary with an Obama ticket.

It that happens, McCain gets my vote.....

Of course, I prefer an Obama and someone else ticket.....but, I am not sure they could beat McCain without Hillary votes. Unfortunately, we need those little old lady Hillary huggers to put him over the top.
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:55 AM
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21. Both. I believe either one will be great and can beat McCain. n/t
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:03 AM
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24. Yep, that's the goal we can't lose track of.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:58 AM
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22. I was fine with both of them until Clinton lied about his record on choice.
Then I was "in the tank" for Obama.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:00 AM
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23. If you said no to either candidate, you should leave DU.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:23 AM
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28. Why? Is the primary over? Did the candidate I oppose win something?
It's the "Hillary's way or the Highway!" gang that will
have to leave DU after the primary season is over because
McCain supporters won't be tolerated here.

Tesha
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:13 AM
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25. Definitely both.
I would have been happy to see a Clinton Obama ticket this year, but I admit it now looks unlikely.

I honestly believe Hillary would have the better chance of beating John McCain in November.

Not based only on current popularity, but based on how voters perceive the candidates.

I think most voters would trust Hillary on 1. the economy, 2. healthcare and 3. Iraq.

It bugs me that some of the media commentators have been especially unfair to Hillary.

Barack Obama has the potential to be a fine Presidential candidate. Maybe in 2016.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:15 AM
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27. I support seven out of the original eight; Clinton's the only one I *WON'T* support.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 06:20 AM by Tesha
To varying degrees, I support seven out of the original eight
Democratic candidates; Clinton is the only one I *WON'T*
support under any circumstance.

And I *REALLY, REALLY* would support Gore were he to
enter the race.

It's a real shame we don't chose our candidate by
"acceptance voting"/"approval voting"; maybe we wouldn't
have ended up with the absolute last two on my list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting

Tesha
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Frumious B Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:24 AM
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29. I support Obama, but could hold my nose and vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.
However, her tactics and her assumption of stupidity on the part of the voters make it harder and harder for me to say that every day. A prime example would be her floating the idea of Obama as VP despite her assertion that he is unfit to be Commander In Chief and then sending out one of her advisers to clarify that Obama just hasn't crossed the "threshold" yet. Presumably the "threshold" has less to do with national security and more to do with how much Obama kisses Hillary's butt in a concession speech. Then when Obama decisively shoots down the talk of him as VP she talks as if she and her husband never floated the idea in the first place.

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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:26 AM
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30. The kitchen sink strategy marked the end of my support of Hillary
Plus the fact that she knows she cant win since super tuesday and yet keeps this farce going just to weaken Obama in the GE.

Oh yeah and the three or four times she has endorsed McCain over Obama.:mad:

Let the freepers support Hillary, they both want McCain elected apparently.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:27 AM
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31. Obama only
Hillary gets nothing from me.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:25 PM
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33. ˆ ould have been happy with any of the original 7 candidates (don't know anything about Gravel)
I voted for Obama, but I'll be quite pleased to support either candidate this Fall.
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