Jeff Seemann for Congress on Air America at 9 PM

Jeff Seemann is running for U.S Congress. He is from the Ohio 16th District. He is featured tonight, yes tonight on the Majority Report!


This is a must listen to.....Lets support our "New Democratic Leaders of Tomorrow".


Go visit his web site....linked below....and learn about this dynamic leader.

I've got it on my headphones.
Go Jeff!

with Diebold! Go Jeff...tell America about the hacking potential. Yes!!!!!

Rock on!

Yes, lets donate and back this guy with heart and a spine to boot!

I think if he wins in Ohio, we'll be hearing from him in the future.

I sent him a few dollars early on and hope to send more shortly.

election! Many nurses back him....Did you know, 1 out of every 44 registered voters is a nurse!

and we the people need him!

who among other things authored the proposal to eliminate overtime. Regula has to go.

"I will refuse the congressional healthcare plan until every American also has it."

C'mon Ohio!

why would he want you to shill for him here? Since we're just "idiots" and "kerrybots" and all...

to support Kerry because Bush is so bad? If so then I say to you, support AWD because Reguala is that bad.

I post at this board ...I am a democrat....and from Ohio. I support the eviction of these right wing neo-cons. Jeff Seemann has his heart and soul into taking back our country. I am so very proud to support him here and everwhere.

Your view is very narrow in scope and it appears you have misplaced the goal.... to take back this country and our Congress from the repugs. Jeff supports Kerry 100% as do I.

and I mean that sincerely.
Just curious since he does routinely trash this board, its administrators, and its members.
When I need a diagnosis of my "narrow" view, I'll see a specialist

inflammmatory ....but ya know, today I don't give a fuck. We have bigger problems with this administrations crimes. I won't humor you in your false accusations and rhetoric.

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But I'm not going to link to That Other Website to show you. I'm sure you're well aware, anyway.

Based on the type of public comments that he's made in the past, both here and there, I don't think he has the temperament to be a good elected official. Besides, Regula took 70% in his district in 2002. Seemann (a public figure now, by the way, so commentary about him here is fair game) has pretty much zero chance of beating him, IMO. Which is too bad, since Regula is scum.

You want to support him and donate to him? Bully for you. Personally, I'd rather spend my time and money on a race where the Democrat actually has a decent chance of winning, but obviously YMMV.

DTH

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I dislike him, sure, and I don't really have much respect for him, but I certainly don't hate him, and I would absolutely vote for him if I lived in his district.

As for myself, I'm generally too busy working my ass off for Kerry to post much here any more. I just believe strongly that people should know what they're getting into, before donating to someone. Money's scarce these days, and there are lots of good candidates to support. Full disclosure about something like chance of victory is important to making those decisions.

DTH, Who Laughed Out Loud at "Blessed Democrat"

but he had a lame opponent. Now my district is competative. Has it occured to you that Regual's might work the same way.

A 16-termer. Not 16 years. 16 TERMS. He is a household fixture in his district, and I find it exceedingly unlikely that the voters in his district are going to pass him over for a political novice. Especially one whose Internet comments, for those who care to look, have been exceedingly intemperate in the past.

Of course, anything is possible, mathematically speaking. And who knows, maybe they'll find Regula with a dead girl or a live boy. But in the unlikely event that happens (and at age 77, I'm guessing there aren't too many scandals in the cards for Regula), Seemann would be able to win even without a bunch of donations.

Like I said, if people want to donate to him or support him, that's certainly their right. Go crazy. But speaking for myself, I have better things to spend my money on than someone who I feel is a vanity candidate with practically zero chance of winning.

And also like I said, if people want to solicit for him here, I think DUers have the right to full disclosure. Trying to paint a rosy picture of a race that is -- at absolute best -- a longshot borders on the intellectually dishonest, IMO.

If he proves me wrong, I'll be the first to eat my words. But I'll bet any sum of money that my prediction will come true, sadly. Hell, I'll even give odds on that bet.

DTH

than Cafaro has ahead of her. But, it should be noted, that LaTourette, though he hasn't been in office nearly as long, is still well thought of in my district. The differences now are that LaTourette does have a bit of a scandal and that Cafaro has a ton of money. It should be noted that merely making the GOP spend money in that race would be very helpful to people like Strickland who will be in a close race. Money spent on Reguala's behalf can't be spent against Strickland.

Why not just donate directly to the candidates in the tighter races? It seems a lot more efficient, to me. Especially when Regula has a war chest of his own, such that he won't need GOP help.

DTH

Who's running against him? (I lived in his district for a long time.)

Even though Jeff got more votes than Regula in the primary.....

But nice to see you're lurking at "the site which shall not be named"
If you are you might learn something
....unless you're convinced you already know.

I do pop over there occasionally, just like I pop over to FR and other places occasionally. It's kinda like watching a train wreck: fascinating, in a morbid kind of way.

As for your primary claim, first, your claim is just plain wrong. Second, of course the Democratic primary is going to attract a disproportionately greater number of Democratic voters than usual...after all, we had a contested Presidential race, when Ohio went to the polls.

But if you seriously think that statistic means anything, well, you're local, so I'll re-offer the bet. Hell, I'll even spot you nine percentage points. Any dollar amount.

Look, I'll say it again. If people want to donate, bully for them. But what bothers me is when folks try to solicit for local races on places like DU without giving the community the whole story. The Internet is an interesting phenomenon, where you can reach out to a much larger community without much difficulty. The flip side to that is, there is a much greater ignorance within the larger community about your local race.

While most local voters -- who traditionally would be your donor base -- would already know the score (i.e. that Regula is a 16-termer who won in 2002 with 70% of the vote, and that Seemann has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning, IMO), other folks outside of the local area only know what you tell them. So IMO there is a much greater obligation to have "truth in advertising" in these cases, because otherwise you're just taking their money, arguably under false pretenses.

I'd have no problem with people doing stuff like this, if they'd just offer full disclosure. Sadly, in their zeal for their friend, they gloss over the facts, and get all huffy when someone like me presents them.

That's what I have a problem with.

DTH

Which was very nice of him. Too bad all dialog can't be like this at DU. But DTH is a smart and capable guy and a hell of a nice guy in person.

(speaking of the other board where I spend most of my time) If I expressed contempt for DU any time I certainly didn't intend to.
I like those people. All of them. Especially you :)

My feelings about DU are really more disappointment.
It's the tone and subject matter that have changed. Waa Waaa Waaa.

I'll PM you. Peace.

DTH

errrr.... Regula. No one ever said this was easy.

But it's easy for us to pontificater form a "safe " state. That is waht the kerry folks told me about their lack of committment to GOTV resources in Cali by the way. It's as if Arnold doen't exist.

Taking things for granted and quoting conventional wisdom will only get you more status quo.

Ham sandwich ,'04 baby!

He came up about 2,000 votes shy of Regula's total. It's a pretty easy check on the Ohio Secretary of State.

The Kerry campaign is relying on the grassroots to keep CA in the blue column. In fact, at the big March 30 fundraiser, some CA bigwigs specifically asked the Kerry campaign NOT to spend money in CA, and to spend it elsewhere, because we would carry the state for him. And I'm going to do my damnedest to make good on our bigwigs' promises. :-)

DTH

So far you are zero for one. Hope you don't mind if all consider other viewpoints on who's a good candidate and who isn't.

But of course we're all friends and allies. Ugh.

Julie

I'm sorry that reality, and the facts, are such a downer. But yeah, politics is the art of the possible. It's a numbers game, where you allocate your scarce resources. It's why Kerry isn't going to spend cash in Mississippi or Alabama, and why Bush probably isn't going to spend much in California. The reality is, because of gerrymandering, there are only a handful of close House races in the entire country. Regula's race ain't one of those. It's not even close.

I'm laying out the facts, and presenting my opinion and analysis, because I care about full disclosure, and other DUers' hard-earned money. If money's scarce, I would urge people here to donate instead to folks like Martin Frost, a lifelong, kickass Democrat who is going to be locked in one of the tightest races in the country. Or Stephanie Herseth, in South Dakota. Or Tony Knowles, running for Senate in Alaska. Those are races where money can make all the difference.

But anyway, people can take my opinion for whatever they think it's worth; my feelings won't be hurt, I promise. And I don't see any shortage of (unrealistic, IMO) viewpoints in this thread supportive of Seemann. But the facts are the facts.

BTW, I'm working my ass off for Kerry now. I got over the primaries a looooooong time ago, and I recommend you try doing the same.

DTH

Just a humble Democrat. Backing other Democrats.

Long over the primaries, been far too busy with elections that are going on. While I'm certainly not working my ass off for Kerry (sorry, he doesn't inspire me, I hope for an inspiring running mate though) I am working to send Democrats to the state and US Congress.

You may have noticed that a President who has no majority in House or Senate is pretty impotent. Some of us are not too good or too important to work on the secondary elections. We're even willling to back mere mortals as long as their views are similar to ours and they'll vote as we would.

As to your analysis, yep, it's an opinion. Just like assholes, everybody's got one. :toast:

Julie

But hey, knock yourself out. I'm backing and donating to and working my ass off for Kerry, regardless of whether he "inspires" me or not, simply because I am a grown-up who recognizes what the stakes are in this election.

I'm also backing various local candidates. And the ones I'm backing actually have a chance of winning. I guess I'm just a pragmatist, that way.

DTH

I'm building the party and backing (working for and donating to) secondary candidates. I'll be voting for Kerry in spite of my feelings about him. Kerry will be a direct beneficiary of my party building efforts and that is sufficient IMO.

I guess not "working my ass off" for him directly means I can't be a grown up like you. Ugh.

Jeff's not local to me but he's a Dem running against an entrenched repug. I would like to see that repug out of work and our party strengthened by as many wins as possible.

I have spoken with Jeff personally, I agree with his views and he's running a good campaign. I think he's a fine candidate but you are of course free to wrinkle your nose at him, spit out an insult or two and return to your very important work with the other grown-ups.

Julie

Have fun with your secondary candidates. The rest of us have more productive work to do.

DTH

just not in so many words.

Now, back to the refelcting pool with you dear. You've already been away far too much. Give my regards to Narssisus! :hi:

Julie

But better the reflecting pool than the echo chamber of unrealistic fantasies. Bye now!

DTH

...hitting the message boards?

...or running for Congress?


One seems infinately more productive than the other.

He seems to be posting over at The Other Message Board more often than I post here (excepting the last two days, perhaps).

As for what's more productive, I've never really viewed tilting at windmills and potentially diverting limited funds from other, far more electable candidates as all that productive, personally. In fact, as a pragmatist, I would generally consider that a big waste of time, and in some ways very counter-productive.

But obviously, YMMV.

DTH

that he could get elected, stranger things have happened. No one expected Kerry to win the nomination several months ago.

His campaign was thought to be dead in the water. I remember when he had the shake up at his campaign, there was a death watch for his campaign.

But somehow he did make it. Campaigns are hard work and while I myself would rather spend money on races which seemingly are more competetive, I think it's great that people are putting money and effort trying to unseat any republican.

or do you want to play bullshit schoolyard "I hate you, you hate me" games?

Put the childishness aside.

Most Dean supporters are mature enough to support Kerry. Show yourself that you can be just as grown-up. Get on the fucking wagon.

like any sensible person running for office.
He can't get elected without votes.

It actually went to Bush by a vote of 53% to 42%. So, I don't know why he said it when by a narrow margin. I think he said 1.3% and that just isn't true.

districts have been redrawn and Regula almost certainly lost Republicans to districts like mine.

It is what the Almanac of American Politics says and they use 2002 districts. Also, NCEC.org said an actually bigger difference which is odd because they should have the same thing. But, still this is a republican leaning district.

I know sort of where his district is and wouldn't have thought that it was that Republican. Go figure.

it will be because of people like Jeff who have the guts to run and compete. I think he might do it too.

And we will have passionate and caring democrats too! A double winner!

WE DID IT!!!!

Thanks to Janeane and Sam on Air America Radio, we raised over 3,500 dollars in 20 minutes!

As of 10:01pm, we are at 4,800 dollars! Thank you (and keep it coming, pretty please???)

http://www.jeffseemannforcongress.com/

:hi:

I heard him on Air America earlier tonight, was favorably impressed, so much so that I went to his web site and made a donation.

Let's hope that lots of other listeners did the same.

Jeff indeed will represent us all in Congress.

$7,200.........Excellent!!!!!!!!

Plus the extra $1,000 from the Congresswoman's pledge!


:toast:

now at $8,078.44...plus the $1000 from the Congresswomen....

Drain the swamp folks....for every dollar we raise for Congressional seats....that's money that these candidates hold on to and do not share with competitive seats...

Congresscritters are notorious for sweating out reelection.....give enough to Jeff to scare the hell out of Regalia, and he won't be passing on any of his bucks to other repugs...in fact, he'll be out there hand held out looking for cash too.....there are too few of them and too many of us....they are already running up against the spending limits because of Bush and the Senate....

Push them everywhere....send a dollar, two, five, every little bit helps....and the trend has been opening up in favor of the Dems in polls, we could snag a few surprises....

Let's make this our 1994!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I owe the repugs the sick to the stomach feeling I had that night!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not complicated, if you support progressive ideals then support progressive candidates. The more funding they have the more the message will be heard which is a winner for progressives, no matter how entrenched the incumbant. Only a dlc doppelganger would say bet the odds as if this is some kind of a political football game. I say screw the Bush-lite party hacks, start working your ass off for a better America.

I seem to remeber him being so. I would imagine that he is no longer posting so that the things that other DUers say are not associated with him.