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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:32 PM
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GOP Worried About Iraq's Role at Polls
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040415/ap_on_el_pr/iraq_politics&cid=694&ncid=2043

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ST. PAUL, Minn. - Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a Republican ally of President Bush (news - web sites), says Iraq (news - web sites) is "a mess" and voters are rattled. He ought to know: He's attending two funerals this week of servicemen killed in the Persian Gulf nation.


"People are becoming unnerved by it," said Pawlenty, who also is co-chairman of Bush's state campaign. "Minnesota communities are strong and tough, but people do want to know, 'What's the end game here?'"

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sjgman9 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:36 PM
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1. Personal responsibility
You dont do something this drastic without taking responsibility for you r actions. This war wasnt planned right. The idea of booting saddam out was, in practice, a decent one, but the timing was awful.

It should have happened AFTER we completely took care of afghan (we left it behind), AFTER a comprehensive I/P peace process (today is an unmitigated disaster), and after the economy is good.

Unfortunately, we have the think tank warriors screwing it all up, damn neocons. Repubs should know the zoology of their movement better and control the nutjobs. If they pay at the polls, tough!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:36 AM
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8. Hi sjgman9!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 PM
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2. great column about Bush's performance at www.salon.com
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 PM
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3. d'oh....
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 PM by mike_c
Who'd have thought that spending hundreds of billions and killing tens of thousands for damned nearly nothing would make a rat's buttocks worth of difference on election day? Probably should have sent some buxom cheerleaders to Baghdad to work the foreground during the "shock and awe" spectacular.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:41 PM
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4. Payback really sucks!
Maybe next time this ADHD administration will think twice before flying off the handle. Of course, if millions of US have anything to say about it, there will be NO next time.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:58 PM
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5. they're worried about the polls. . .
whilst I'm deeply sickened over the world my son will inherit from this nefarious cabal. . .never mind the unbelievable wreckage to our environment, our economy, and our credibility.

I think about Vietnam and all the atrocities and how our relations are happily neutralized now. Then I become painfully cognizant of how different Buddhists are from Muslims. Buddhists are probably the most forgiving people on the planet. Extremist Muslims are probably the most vengeful. In that culture, if two people have an argument then their progeny will still be fighting about it 5 generations later.

The right wing nuts proclaim that we haven't had an attack in 2&1/2. They need to be reminded that a decade and a half passed before we experienced the travesty of retaliation for "infidels occupying holy soil in Saudi Arabia" during and after Desert Storm.

I'm concerned that we'll be paying for the atrocities in Falluja for a "very, very, very" long time.



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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:03 PM
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6. I identify with most of the Buddhist principles.
One thing confuses me though. Does Buddhism believe that we humans, individually, survive after death. When I studied this as a young person in my teens, it didn't seem that Buddhism espoused that. Other than this one concept I would consider myself to be a Buddhist, although I attend a Protestant church (go figure).
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:17 PM
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7. Buddhists believe fervantly. . .
in reincarnation. Thus the belief that the current soul of the Dalai Lama has been the same soul throughout time. Thus the lamo joke,

"If you've seen one Dalai Lama. . . you've seen them all."
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:40 AM
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9. Buddhist believe that the idea of an individual is an illusion
They believe that all ideas are illusions.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:35 PM
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10. I think I was just too young when I looked into Buddhism.
Really, both my husband and I identify more with that belief system than any other.
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